[外絮] ESPN Haberstroh专栏:我的MVP选择是...

楼主: kart (=\)   2015-04-16 16:22:13
反正有两天备战日,可以好好讨论奖项了 ^^
文章来源:http://ppt.cc/u2pk
(不过原文好像有锁)
是ESPN常驻专栏作家之一 Tom Haberstroh说他选MVP的标准
(不过他说他今年没拿到选票...所以基本上就是说爽的...囧)
Most Valuable Playe
1. Stephen Curry
2. James Harden
3. Anthony Davis
4. Chris Paul
5. LeBron James
It's time to bury the "carrying the Team X" trope when discussing
the MVP award. We've heard it ad nauseam when it comes to Harden's
and Westbrook's MVP candidacy, usually at the expense of Curry and
the juggernaut Warriors. Harden is carrying the Rockets to the
second seed. Westbrook is carrying the Thunder into the playoffs.
是时候把“某某某carry了某某队” 这种迷思在讨论MVP时剔除了。
我们今年听到很多哈登和西河阵营的人用这种广告词来蛊惑人心,
通常他们攻击的点是说Curry所在的勇士太强了,而火箭队则是被
哈登carry到了第二种子。西河则有可能把雷霆carry到季后赛。
Never mind that no team has more double-digit scorers than the
Rockets, which speaks to their sneaky depth. Never mind that the
Rockets' foundation is built on having the sixth-best defense in
the NBA. Never mind that Enes Kanter is averaging 18.4 points and
10.9 rebounds since arriving in OKC, a rate that only four other
bigs can match over the full season.
是的,他们选择忽视火箭是拥有全联盟最多得分上双球员的球队,
而这可充分显示了他们其实很有深度。他们也不提火箭今年的基础
是建立在联盟第六的防守。他们也不提Kanter自从到雷霆后平均有
18.4分,10.9篮板,这个数据整季也只有四个常人能达到。
At its core, the "carrying" storyline is a flimsy rhetorical
shortcut that degrades teammates who have made winning
contributions. But here's the whopper: Statistically, Curry
carries the Warriors more than Harden and Westbrook carry their
respective teams.
从核心而论,所谓"carrying"这种故事实际上只是
一个很脆弱和想走捷径的口号-建立在把对球队胜利贡献的队友说成渣
的方式上。然而事实可能会让你讶异:就数据而论,Curry反而是
所谓carry勇士更多的球员,比哈登和西河更多。
Per NBA.com lineup data, the Warriors are 16.8 points per 100
possessions better with Curry on the court compared to when he's
on the bench. The swing is just plus-7.8 for Harden and plus-6.6
points for Westbrook, far less impactful than Curry.
从NBA官网提供的数据可以看到,勇士队在Curry上场的时候,比他在
场下时在每100次进攻里能够让勇士多得16.8分!而这个数据
在哈登身上只有7.8分,西河只有6.6分,都比Curry少非常多。
Are you a visual learner? Take a look at the chart below. As you
can see, the swing between on/off court is far wider for Curry
than it is for Harden or Westbrook. When Curry is on the floor,
the Warriors have outscored opponents by 16.8 points (green dot)
while the Warriors have played an even 0.0 net rating when he's on
the bench (red dot). Actually, LeBron James (plus-17.2) and Chris
Paul (plus-20.3) have slightly larger swings than Curry, which
speaks to their lack of quality reserves.
你可以到原文里去看这个图表可以轻易看到这数据量化的表现。
基本上全联盟也只有CP3(+20.3)和LBJ(+17.2)在这数据的表现上胜过Curry。
By no means should this alone decide the MVP race. There are other
factors that should be considered, namely whom each player tends
to share the court with and whom they play against. But the
"carrying" notion sounds a lot better in theory than it does in
reality. (And if you've been paying attention, the Rockets have
actually been outscored with Harden on the court this month, and
they're killing opponents when he's on the pine. Poor timing.)
当然我完全不认为单凭这一数据就能决定MVP奖落谁家。尤其如果我们
考量到跟这些球员一起上场的球员是谁,和他们是跟谁做对抗等等。
但是我要说明的只是所谓"carrying"这字所代表的往往比实际上多有不同。
(而且如果你有注意的话,在四月的比赛里,哈登上场的时候火箭是负分,
而哈登在休息的时候火箭其它人反而能打翻对手。这可真不是个好时机啊^^)
Going beyond the fact that Harden's biggest rhetorical chip has
backfired, there are more reasons why I think Curry is the 2014-15
MVP. He helped turn the Warriors from a good regular-season team
to an all-time great regular-season team, which is harder to do
than going from bad to average or average to good. At 66-15, the
Warriors have added 15 wins to last season's total, which is the
most that a 50-win team has ever done in NBA history (the previous
record was 13).
即使我们跳过这个对哈登而言走火的口号好了,还有很多别的原因
我认为Curry才是2014-15年的MVP。第一,他帮助勇士从一个普通强队
蜕变成为一个历史级别的强队。而我认为这个难度比把烂队变成普队,
或把普队变成强队更难。这样说好了,勇士是历史上所有50w球队里,
进步幅度最大的球队(比去年多了16w,之前的纪录是13w)。
The Curry-led Warriors are absolutely crushing the league. Even if
the Rockets nab the No. 2 seed, it shouldn't bolster Harden's
case. That would suggest that the Rockets, as a No. 2 seed, are
right behind the Warriors as the No. 1 seed. In reality, the
Rockets aren't even in the same stratosphere as the Warriors, who
have a plus-11.4 net rating. No team is even close.
在Curry的带领下,勇士本季摧估拉朽的夺得赛季第一。即使火箭是
西区第二,这也不应该让哈登得到更多MVP选票,是的,第二的确看起来
只落后第一一名。但是事实上,火箭和勇士在赛季的表现上不是同一个档次的。
勇士本季的净胜分可是双位数字,没有任何一支球队接近这项表现。
As Insider pal Kevin Pelton points out, this isn't a reductive
"best player on best team" argument. Curry has the individual
cred. Survey the advanced metrics and you'll find that Harden and
Curry are basically indistinguishable. Harden narrowly edges Curry
in win shares and WAR; Curry nips Harden in PER, RPM and VORP.
Throw in the fact that Curry's "VER"
作者: nctucch17170 (kkadam)   2015-04-16 16:33:00
先补血 3~9袋弟子会嘘这篇
作者: BelphegorIan (kRyStaL)   2015-04-16 16:41:00
个人数据吊打其他所有队伍到底是三小......
作者: jeffery20223 (阿哲)   2015-04-16 16:43:00
先帮补 Curry MVP!!!!为啥支持就是捧 你也可以捧胡子阿 只是我会去嘘
作者: cindynancy36 (huang)   2015-04-16 17:15:00
论点不错,西河虽然强大,但是kanter能力也强,不能只说他一人carry整个雷霆
作者: jeffery20223 (阿哲)   2015-04-16 17:46:00
不看深入数据,他提到很重要的一项是咖哩把50胜级强队带成历史级,光凭这点,我觉得MVP给谁真的很清楚了~

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