Re: [情报] Kobe为LBJ抱不平:2冠少?有1冠就很幸运了

楼主: RodrigueZ810 (装小维)   2014-06-18 14:23:43
所以呢?第几顺位被选走?关高中生屁事 <==你编辑内容
→ suck9527 :难道是这个高中生很强 我们先不选他XD
其实真的跟高中生有关系,是时空背景的关系
Kobe是史上第一个乐透区的高中跳级生(外围球员)
内线球员可以追逤到Mose Malone了
高中赛季最后一年平均30.8分12篮板6.5助攻4抄截3.8火锅
还打破张真人的宾州东南区高中累积得分纪录
相较LeBron James高中最后一年数据31.6分9.6篮板4.6助攻3.4抄截1.9火锅
纯以数据层面Kobe毫不逊色
相信如果Kobe晚出生几年也有可能成为选秀状元的
更别说还是在黄金96梯可以达到这历史标竿更难能可贵
隔年强如T-Mac,97梯没有96才华洋溢
T-Mac也只是第九顺位而已
而对照这两个超级高中生(外围球员)生涯前期成长曲线也是很类似的
Kobe
FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS
.417 .375 .819 1.9 1.3 0.7 0.3 1.6 7.6
.428 .341 .794 3.1 2.5 0.9 0.5 2.0 15.4
.465 .267 .839 5.3 3.8 1.4 1.0 3.1 19.9
.468 .319 .821 6.3 4.9 1.6 0.9 2.8 22.5
.464 .305 .853 5.9 5.0 1.7 0.6 3.2 28.5
T-Mac
FG% 3P% FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PTS
.450 .341 .712 4.2 1.5 0.8 1.0 1.0 7.0
.436 .229 .726 5.7 2.3 1.1 1.3 1.6 9.3
.451 .277 .707 6.3 3.3 1.1 1.9 2.0 15.4
.457 .355 .733 7.5 4.6 1.5 1.5 2.6 26.8
.451 .364 .748 7.9 5.3 1.6 1.0 2.5 25.6
不难看出各球团在那年代对于高中外围跳级生都不是足够信任的
都从板凳开始,也没有充裕的球权,当然也跟阵中都有好球员卡位有关
湖人是之后清掉Eddie Jones
而T-Mac则是离开暴龙到魔术才解放
这也可以从Kobe回忆当初选秀时的自述可以看出
以下引用板友LABOYS在湖版的外电翻译,若有不满请来信告知,得罪莫怪
Kobe shunned, bypassed by several teams heading into ’96 draft
Kobe忆96年选秀
Posted: 1:17 AM, February 12, 2012
原文网址: http://0rz.tw/XIw5H
Friday, when Kobe Bryant led the Lakers into Madison Square Garden, we looked
back at the 1996 NBA Draft, and how so many teams could have been so
wary/wrong
about someone so gifted.
周五,当Kobe Bryant和湖人作客Madison Square Garden之时,
我们追逤到1996年的NBA选秀,
一个很多球队在当下察觉了,或是错判某个球员怀有天赋的时刻。
Today, Kobe discloses other draft dodgers and dissers.
今天,Kobe揭露了一些其他当时选秀的冷落以及秘辛。
John Nash’s needle isn’t the only one stuck on the 1996 draft.
John Nash的刺激并不是他在1996年唯一遭遇到的。
That time period remains equally entrenched in Kobe Bryant’s consciousness.
He finds some stuff that happened funny, other things exasperating and a
couple
occurrences outright incomprehensible.
这一些时刻如今依旧盘旋在Kobe Bryant的脑海,
他遭遇了一些相当滑稽的遭遇,以及一些他相当震怒或是完全难以置信之事。
I didn’t raise the subject; he did.
并不是我发起这个主题的,而是他本人。
The one rubbing Bryant the rawest implicates Dave Cowens, then the Hornets’
coach. At some point soon after the Hornets selected Bryant with the No. 13
pick, the two had a private phone conversation that went something like this.
Bryant在这次访谈最先吐出的名字是Dave Cowens,时任黄蜂的总教练。
在黄蜂队用第十三顺位选择Bryant过后不久,他们两个私下曾有过电话交流,
对话内容如下。
Cowens: “You know what the deal is, right?
Cowens: "你知道交易的内容了(湖人用Divac交易Kobe),对吧?"
Kobe: “Yes, I do.”
Kobe: "是的,我知道了。"
Cowens: “Well, that’s good, because we don’t need you anyway.”
Cowens: "嗯,那就好,因为我们并不需要你。"
Kobe is as stupefied and infuriated now as he was then.
Kobe在当时被吓傻了,并且直到现在还是对当时的事情相当愤怒。
“Can you believe someone would say something like that to a 17-year-old!”
he says, his face one-third smile, one-third scowl and one-third sinister.
"你能相信某人竟然能对一个17岁的孩子说出这样的话吗?" 他说,
他脸上带有三分之一的笑容,三分之一的愤怒以及三分之一的险恶。
“That really threw me. It really hurt. Especially since it came from him. I
knew about Dave Cowens. I knew what a great player he was.
I followed his career. I looked up to him because he played so hard
and showed so much passion. That spit just blew me away!”
"这真的让我非常难受,这件事让我非常受伤。
特别是这些话出自于他的口中,我对Dave Cowens很了解,我知道他曾是个卓越的球员,
我见证了他整个球员生涯,我关注他,是因为他非常卖力的打球,
并且对于篮球有非常多的热情。而这段谈话无疑让我青天霹雳。"
Then again, by then, Bryant should have been accustomed to being disillusioned
by Hall of Fame players. Twice he worked out for Clippers’ GM Elgin Baylor …
and coach Bill Fitch. After the second, the two dream weavers invited Bryant
to lunch.
而后,再一次的,Bryant必须开始习惯名人堂的成员再一次让他幻灭了。
他在快艇队参加了两次的试训,当时的总管是Elgin Baylor,而总教练是Bill Fitch,
在试训过后,这两个梦的编织者邀请Bryant共进午餐。
“They told me it was the two best workouts they’d ever seen,” he said.
“That’s it, I figured, I was going be a Clipper and play in L.A.
I was pumped!”
"他们告诉我,这是他们两个人所看过最棒的试训内容。" 他说,
"当下,我想我可以进入快艇队,替洛杉矶打球了。这非常令人振奋。"
Before Bryant had finished his fantasy, his magic carpet ride crashed. Out of
nowhere, Baylor and Fitch flipped the switch.
而在Bryant做完他的白日梦之前,这个梦想马上就被摧毁了。
毫无预警,Baylor和Fitch两人话锋一转。
“Your skill level is off the charts. Your athleticism is exceptional.
And your energy and enthusiasm are remarkable,” they gushed.
"你的技术等级已经超群,你的运动能力相当优秀。
而你的能量和比赛热情都非常杰出," 他们如骤雨般说著,
“But we can’t draft you.”
"但是我们不能选你。"
Huh? What! Why not?
嗄?啥!为什么?
“Because people out here won’t think we’re serious if we draft a high
school kid at No. 7.”
So, Baylor and Fitch showed they meant business by plucking Memphis center
Lorenzen Wright (whose July 2010 murder remains unsolved).
"因为若是用第七顺位去选一个高中生的话,这里的人不会认为我们是认真的。"
于是Baylor 和 Fitch倾向于选择曼菲斯的中锋Lorenzen Wright。
(他在2010年七月被谋杀身亡,本案尚未解决。)
Bryant never had any reason to believe he would wind up playing in nearby
Philadelphia for the 76ers, holders of the draft’s oceanfront lot. There was
little doubt Allen Iverson would be the top pick. Yet GM Brad Greenberg
invited Kobe in, anyway, for a test run.
Bryant从来没想到当年拥有状元签的费城七六人也会同意让他参加试训,
但是想必是竞争激烈,他们对于Allen Iverson是否是最好的状元选择有点质疑,
然后总管Brad Greenberg邀请Kobe试训,然而,是项跑步测试。
“I guess they saw some of my high school games. That was the only explanation
I could think of for not being asked to shoot or dribble or demonstrate any
of my skills” Bryant said.
“All they wanted me to do was to sprint the court.
They timed me on a stop watch.”
"我猜测他们已经看过了一些我高中的影片,这是对于不用测试投篮、运球,
以及演示诸如此类的篮球技能这点,我唯一能想到的解释。" Bryant说。
"他们要我做的唯一一件事情,就是在绕场跑步,而他们对我的速度计时。"
Greenberg told Bryant him Iverson had run faster.
然后 Greenberg 告诉 Bryant,Iverson 跑得比他快。
“So?!?!” Kobe exclaimed.
"然后勒?!?!" Kobe惊喊出声。
On the day of the draft, or just before it, Philly columnist John Smallwood
implored the Sixers to draft Kobe.
在选秀的那一天,或是可能在那之前一点,费城的专栏作家John Smallwood,
恳求费城七六人用状元签选Kobe。
“He said they’d regret it forever if they didn’t,” Kobe recalled.
"他说,他们如果没有这么做,将会后悔一辈子。" Kobe回顾著。
“The funny thing is, he was on my ass for one thing or another my whole
senior year. The Sixers were so bad I guess that’s why he turned his
attention on me. And then in the end, for some reason he changed his opinion
about me. He’s looking pretty good.”
"有趣的事情是,他在我高年级那年整天跟在我的屁股后面跑。
七六人当时的状况太差了,我猜这是为什么他把注意力放到了我的身上。
而在最终,因为某些原因,他将他的选择改成了我,他的观察十分入微。"
Greenberg disputes Bryant’s version. In an email he said the workout
consisted of more than running.
而Greenberg不同意Bryant所说的版本,在一封电子邮件中,
他表示那次试训有除了跑步之外的课题。
“He did shooting drills and other stuff ... had a great workout,”
Greenberg wrote.
"他在投篮和其他层面都做得很好...他有一个很好的试训内容。"
Greenberg是这么写的。
“I just thought Iverson [was] a better selection at the time. I wasn’t
comfortable going with a HS kid for the No. 1 pick vs. Iverson.”
"我只是认为Iverson在那个时间点是一个更好的选择,
用状元签选一个高中孩子而不选择Iverson,我觉得并不妥。"
Bryant estimates receiving well over 500 scholarship offers. Some were from
colleges in places he never knew existed whose courses and schedules are
completed online. Each day during a break, he would glide into Lower Marion
H.S. coach Gregg Downer’s office and pick up the latest batch of recruitment
letters.
Bryant在当时,接到了超过500份的奖学金提供,
有些甚至是他从他从未听说过坐落于何处,课程和时间表全在线上完成的学校寄来。
每一天的休息时间,他都会溜鞑过 Lower Marion高中篮球教练Gregg Downer的办公室,
并且取下每批最新的招募信函。
One jutted out above the rest. It was from Dean Smith, not a form letter from
the University of North Carolina, mind you, but a hand-written message from
the aristocrat coach.
其中最令他感到特殊者,是从Dean Smith寄来的,并不是从北卡学校官方所寄来,
而是来自这位名教头的亲笔信函。
“I couldn’t wait to read it, but I didn’t want to do it with people
looking over my shoulder,” recounted a roused Bryant .
“So I opened it quietly during English class while the teacher was talking.”
"我迫不及待的想要读信,但是我不想在我这么做的时候被人越过我的肩偷看。"
Bryant阐述了他当时激昂的情绪。
"所以我在英语课的课堂中,当台上的老师在说话时安静的将其拆开。"
Smith said he had heard how well Kobe had played against UNC’s Jerry
Stackhouse (third pick of ’95 draft, by the 76ers) and knew it was all but
certain he would turn pro when he graduated.
Smith在信中说他已经听闻他在和UNC的Jerry Stackhouse(95年第三顺位被七六人所选)
对抗时表现的有多出色,以及他已经知道自己决定在高中毕业过后就挑战职业。
“However, by any chance, if you change your mind, I want you to know I’m
holding a scholarship for you.”
"但是,不管任何时刻,如果你改变心意,
我希望你知道我为你保留了一份奖学金的机会。"
Does Bryant still have the letter?
Bryant仍然留着这封信吗?
“Are you kidding, bro! Of course, I still have it!
It’s from Dean bleepin' Smith!”
"你在开玩笑吗,老兄!当然留着阿!
这可是响当当的Dean Smith写给我的勒!"
If Dean Smith couldn’t entice Bryant to play for UNC, what chance did John
Calipari and the Nets have of getting him to New Jersey vs. skipping off to
Italy, which was the threat by agent Arn Tellem?
如果Dean Smith不能成功诱惑Bryant来UNC打球,
那John Calipari和篮网队没有因为他的经纪人Arn Tellem威胁要回意大利而跳过他,
进而选这小伙子回纽泽西打球的机会有多少呢?
“Naw,” Kobe countered, “had the Nets drafted me, I would’ve played there
and wouldn’t have tried to force a trade. I was 17, bro, I just wanted to
ball.”
"不。" Kobe反驳, "如果篮网选我,我当然会去那里打球,而不是强迫去搞什么交易。"
"我当时才17岁,老兄,我只是想上场打球。"
Oh, great, now he tells them. So, what would have happened had he become a
Net?
喔,很好,他现在跟我们这样说,所以,如果你在当时成为一个篮网球员会如何呢?
“Calipari probably would still be coach,” Bryant said.
"那Calipari有可能还继续在当教练吧。" Bryant说。
所以别再说Kobe选秀顺位低,生涯开始没有充裕的上场时间是因为他太废了
这是历史的因素,当年没啥人相信高中跳级生没有身材优势能成为即战力
就如同几年后国际球员强如Dirk、Peja也是从板凳出发的,选秀顺位也不高一样
楼主: RodrigueZ810 (装小维)   2014-06-18 14:42:00
当然Kobe的自述可能也要打八成折扣吧就像Shaq跟Phil的自传 都会美化自己这样我以为乐透区是14顺位耶..没进入季后赛的!?还是不同吧 你是说顺位跟高中弃学无关 当时真的有关说到MLB就会想到当初看Money ball..大家都是浮出水面透透气的湖迷XD不是逢科必反的NBA版 要好好珍惜呀..
作者: jackypan1989 (杰奇)   2014-06-18 15:11:00
哪里逢科必反 被酸才表示老大辉煌好吗?老大在的日子 nba版多嗨
楼主: RodrigueZ810 (装小维)   2014-06-18 15:15:00
其实那个ID我早就无视了 要解体了帐号拿出来自杀吧..
作者: katanakiller (管他去死)   2014-06-18 15:23:00
E.Jones很强但很衰离队后原队都拿冠军XD
楼主: RodrigueZ810 (装小维)   2014-06-18 16:00:00
Shaq有批评过E.Jones没担当 结果后面Kobe太有担当XD

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