Re: [讨论] 长期维持ADF国造战机的必要性

楼主: sfsm (有初老症状的咸鱼)   2024-10-11 20:57:13
※ 引述《b777300 (su35s)》之铭言:
: 空军幻象2000、F-16V(旧)、IDF,十年内都会面临到寿限问题,如果都没有新战机,20
: 40~45年左右,台湾会只剩66架F-16V(新)可用?
: 国际社会上台湾是弱势的一方,国防上就不应该完全依赖美国,不然如果到2045年前都不
: 卖新战机给我们,请问我们要怎么办呢?
: 现在最好的办法就是继续研发ADF,依照现有条件先把原型验证机做出来在改良,定型后
: 慢慢投产,保持每年8~12架的速度维持产线与人才培育,这才是长久之计。
: 当年是因为64天安门事件救了台湾,当年F-104的惨况还是历历在目.....
: 人只能依靠自己!
为什么你会有自行研发战机不需要依赖美国的想法呢??
这两篇是2022年DSCA发布新闻稿
https://reurl.cc/YqoKy0
The Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States
(TECRO) has requested to buy an expansion of
the Cooperative Logistics Supply Support Arrangement
for stock replenishment supply of nonstandard spare parts,
consumables, and accessories, and repair and replacement support for the
F-16, C-130, Indigenous Defense Fighter (IDF),
and all other aircraft and systems
or subsystems of U.S. origin, as well as other related elements of
logistics and program support. The estimated total cost is $98 million.
https://reurl.cc/kyWKGn
The Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office in the United States
(TECRO) has requested to buy the expansion of
the Cooperative Logistics Supply Support Arrangement
for stock replenishment supply of standard spare parts,
consumables, and accessories, and repair and replacement support for the
F-16, C-130, Indigenous Defense Fighter (IDF),
and all other aircraft and systems or subsystems of U.S. origin,
as well as other related elements of logistics and program support.
The estimated total cost is $330 million.
台湾可没办法100%自制战机,就算是IDF也是要和美国买零件
同样天弓飞弹也一样,美国出售飞弹零件的新闻稿,
常常出现‘爱国者,天弓二型’这样的叙述...
天弓二的零件也是要跟美国买...
如果你坚持一定要自制战机,那还不如走F-5E中正号的模式,
把现有战机的产线转移到台湾
可能吗?当然目前有难度,选择也不多
2023年国防展洛马倒是有展示出F-21的模型。
其实就是F-16V再稍微升级版
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNIwVxhwLPM
当时洛马为了印度这个大订单同意在印度建立生产线
另外一个原因也是因为洛马要关掉美国本土的F-16产线
那时候大家都吓坏了,还以为以后都要跟印度买零件,
还好洛马发布新闻稿,F-21只给授权印度使用,不能外销
洛马还是会持续提供F-16后勤能力
(全世界F-16使用国都松一口气)
之后印度很不意外外购战机案又印度了
F-16V外销、升级订单到手,洛马也不想关F-16产线
https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/world/breakingnews/3537805
所以台湾想到拿到F-16产线目前还蛮难的...

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