→ kirimaru73: Q: 场上有谦卑和蛋白石光辉，如果我施放迷醉傍晚..... 04/21 23:59
→ kirimaru73: A: 住手。 04/21 23:59
推 shadowblade: 应该还是照分类层跟时间印记来解吧... 04/22 00:02
→ shadowblade: 这类问题我只记得三个原则,但不确定是否所有都能解 04/22 00:03
→ shadowblade: 1. 分类层拆开看,越上面的不会被下面的盖过 04/22 00:04
→ shadowblade: (例如暴潮海怪被变青蛙,所有地仍然有海岛类别) 04/22 00:04
→ shadowblade: 2. 同分类层的看时间印记,越后面的会盖过前面的 04/22 00:04
→ shadowblade: (例如神跟蛋白石光辉的互动) 04/22 00:05
→ shadowblade: 3. 同分类层的效应有从属关系时以带头的为准 04/22 00:06
→ shadowblade: (例如腥红之月跟乌尔博格的互动) 04/22 00:06
来看一下官方的正解:
蛋白石光辉:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=opalescence
Rulings
10/4/2004 Does not animate itself. But can be animated by another
Opalescence.
2/1/2006 With a Humility and two Opalescences on the battlefield, if
Humility has the latest timestamp, then all creatures are 1/1 with no
abilities. If the timestamp order is Opalescence, Humility, Opalescence, the
second Opalescence is 1/1, and the Humility and first Opalescence are 4/4.
If Humility has the earliest timestamp, then everything is 4/4.
8/1/2008 A noncreature permanent that turns into a creature can
attack, and its {T} abilities can be activated, only if its controller has
continuously controlled that permanent since the beginning of his or her most
recent turn.
It doesn't matter how long the permanent has been a creature.
10/1/2009 This is the current interaction between Humility and
Opalescence:
The type-changing effect applies at layer 4, but the rest happens in the
applicable layers. The rest of it will apply even if the permanent loses its
ability before it's finished applying. So if Opalescence, Humility, and
Worship are on the battlefield and Opalescence entered the battlefield before
Humility, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become
creatures that are still enchantments. (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and
Worship each lose their abilities. (Humility) Layer 7b: Humility becomes 4/4
and Worship becomes 4/4. (Opalescence). Humility becomes 1/1 and Worship
becomes 1/1 (Humility). But if Humility entered the battlefield before
Opalescence, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become
creatures that are still enchantments (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and
Worship each lose their abilities (Humility). Layer 7b: Humility becomes 1/1
and Worship becomes 1/1 (Humility). Humility becomes 4/4 and Worship becomes
4/4 (Opalescence).
谦卑:
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=397614
Rulings
2/1/2006 With a Humility and two Opalescences on the battlefield, if
Humility has the latest timestamp, then all creatures are 1/1 with no
abilities. If the timestamp order is Opalescence, Humility, Opalescence, the
second Opalescence is 1/1, and the Humility and first Opalescence are 4/4.
If Humility has the earliest timestamp, then everything is 4/4.
2/1/2007 Removes all creature abilities. This includes mana abilities.
Animated lands will also lose the ability to tap for mana.
10/1/2009 This is the current interaction between Humility and Opalescence:
The type-changing effect applies at layer 4, but the rest happens in the
applicable layers. The rest of it will apply even if the permanent loses its
ability before it's finished applying. So if Opalescence, Humility, and
Worship are on the battlefield and Opalescence entered the battlefield before
Humility, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become
creatures that are still enchantments. (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and
Worship each lose their abilities. (Humility) Layer 7b: Humility becomes 4/4
and Worship becomes 4/4. (Opalescence). Humility becomes 1/1 and Worship
becomes 1/1 (Humility). But if Humility entered the battlefield before
Opalescence, the following is true: Layer 4: Humility and Worship each become
creatures that are still enchantments (Opalescence). Layer 6: Humility and
Worship each lose their abilities (Humility). Layer 7b: Humility becomes 1/1
and Worship becomes 1/1 (Humility). Humility becomes 4/4 and Worship becomes
4/4 (Opalescence).
10/1/2009 You apply power/toughness changing effects in a series of
sublayers in the following order: (a) effects from characteristic-defining
abilities; (b) effects that set power and/or toughness to a specific number
or value; (c) effects that modify power and/or toughness but don't set power
and/or toughness to a specific number or value; (d) changes from counters;
(e) effects that switch a creature's power and toughness. This card's effect
is always applied in (b), which means that effects applied in sublayer (c),
(d), or (e) will not be overwritten; they will be applied to the new value.
翻译﹕
谁同时打这两张就拖去厕所爹阿鲁 (爆
→ shadowblade: 结论: 裁判不够了我去添购一下(误 04/22 00:07
最需要的时候﹐裁判就跟jump一样买不到啊~
→ shadowblade: 题外话,把规则书全看过一遍的玩家到底有没有到一成阿 04/22 00:11
→ shadowblade: 我是觉得可能只有5%不到 (我也没翻完过) 04/22 00:12
规则书
Artifact
Tap: Exile you to 龙宫。 At the beginning of 100 years later, return you
to the battlefield。