ESPN名记者Jeff Passan和退役大联盟球员Doug Mientkiewicz
在X上来了一场激烈的交流
起因在Passan发文提到了
海盗队在Bednar交易案拿到的捕手Edgleen Perez
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1950996033556681132
Among the return to the Pirates in Bednar deal, per ESPN sources: Catcher Rafael
Flores, who tore up AA, is now at AAA, is a top-shelf framer and regarded as a
big league-ready catcher. A very good centerpiece. Also in it: Edgleen Perez, wh
o is 19 with excellent swing decisions
写到他有非常优异的出棒选择
然后退役大联盟球员Doug Mientkiewicz就在下面爆气了
Doug Mientkiewicz
Jeff Passan
https://x.com/dmeasrecruiting/status/1951247550599627141
Man what a time to be alive when a non baseball person writes “excellent swing
decisions” for a guy hitting 209 in A ball and is a career .241 hitter. I swear
some scouts and writers will say anything to sound somewhat intelligent to non
baseball people
拜托，现在这年代真是让人无言，一个根本不懂棒球的人，居然会写“出棒选择极佳”来形
容一个在1A打击率只有2成09、生涯打击率也才2成41的选手，我发誓，有些球探和写手为了
在不懂棒球的人面前显得有点见识，真的什么都敢讲
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1951274851047489990
That description came from a scout, Doug. Do you hate them, too, or are you just
bitter because batting average is no longer the metric people care about and it
’s the only one you were ever good at? Stay bitter, guy.
那可是球探说的耶，你连球探也要讨厌吗？还是说你只是因为现在大家不再只看打击率，而
那刚好是你唯一拿得出手的数据，所以才这么酸？继续苦闷下去吧，老兄
https://x.com/dmeasrecruiting/status/1951329680377741328
Glad you finally admitted that guy. Here is a line you should never forget. I
can do what you do, you can’t do what the players do. Bitter? Not at all. With
out players you have no job. Without scouts you have zero knowledge. Don’t forg
et it guy!
很好，你终于承认了，老兄给你一句永远该记住的话：“我可以做你做的事，但你永远做不
到球员能做的事”
我苦吗？一点也不，没有球员，你什么事都做不了；没有球探，你连基本知识都没有，别忘
了这点，老兄！
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1951348876343980480
It’s a good thing I’m trying not to play, Doug. The sad part is that you’re t
rying to think, and you are absolutely terrible at it.
There’s nothing more sad than an old ballplayer who wants things to be like the
y once were and is too incurious to care the game passed them by.
还好我没打算上场打球，可悲的是你还在努力思考——而你真的超级不擅长这件事
没有什么比一个老球员还要悲哀的了，他只想事情回到过去的样子，却连一点好奇心都没有
去理解这个比赛早就变了、而且把他远远甩在后头
https://x.com/jeffpassan/status/1951349599698035086
You had a good career. You were a good ballplayer. You did things I never could.
That doesn’t give you license to say stupid things.
I don’t know a lot — so I ask people who do. You think you know a lot — and t
hose who actually do laugh at you.
你过去的确有不错的生涯，也是一位优秀的球员，做到了我一辈子都做不到的事。
但那不代表你就有资格说蠢话
我承认我懂得不多——所以我会去问真正懂的人，问题是，你以为自己懂很多，但那些真正
内行的人，只会笑你无知
Doug Mientkiewicz
一垒手
1998-2009
G:1087
PA:3844
.271
.360
.405
.765
OPS+100
899H
66HR
王葛葛前队友(2007待过洋基）
https://i.imgur.com/jqDcXxs.jpeg

非常优异的出棒选择搭配不怎么样的击球能力?

选球好 contact烂 不就这样而已

半夜时有看到，但这把Doug很像那种只会硬抓小辫子开酸的老害...

这打击率看起来是没救

居然还能有薇琪的局

他才19岁又是捕手是要没救啥啊…

出棒选择跟打击率只是正相关又不是因果关系，contact 扮演的角色更重要

老害可能不知道出棒选择极佳的Soto打击率还不到.25

19岁就说人没救，这个比较有趣

Mientkiewicz是跟他有仇喔 球探报告写好话不是很正常吗怎么就被戳到了

以为19岁就有救的 倒是举一个海盗农场养的打者

出棒选择极佳 要看的应该是chase%吧

我记的面开维基算BB不错K也算少的，他不懂出棒选择？

这是吵架，不是笔战

可能觉得ba太低不能用”优异”出棒选择,顶多就”不很糟”

影响打击可能有几十种变量 有几样永远练不满的但是能上MLB的可能有八成都已经练满 剩下也七七八八了

大概只有打过的人才知道打不到和打得差的差距有多大

出棒选择应该不是只有好坏球的判断 而是包含这求他出棒后能不能打好的预估 以这打击率 的确不能说是优异

因为那是1a...如果一个球员19岁在中职.205，你会期待他25岁能站稳大联盟吗