[情报] MLB呛工会违反三月协定

楼主: abc12812   2020-06-13 19:35:23
https://tinyurl.com/y8fvllez
Deputy MLB commissioner Dan Halem suggested the union has not acted in good
faith in negotiations, hinting at the league’s possible stance if and when
this matter ends up before an arbitrator. By Halem’s framing, labor is
taking an obstructionist stance as the league provides what it labels a “
final counterproposal” for a 72-game season.
That the sides are now exchanging angry letters, even as the clock ticks on
squeezing in games, is to an extent merely confirmation of that underlying
state of affairs. But there’s also a nod to a serious escalation lurking
just beneath the surface. Halem hints less than subtly at a possible effort
by the league to disrupt the sides’ late March agreement, claiming the union
has “purposely failed to fulfill its obligations” and “deprived the Clubs
the benefit of their bargain” in the contract.
今天MLB提出新条件的同时 也一并呛工会没遵守三月签约的规定 "故意阻挠谈判"
也暗示如果把议题带到仲裁的可能后果
ps: 如果不清楚三月协定的内容 这里有详细文本可参考
https://tinyurl.com/y7qocgml
The agreement, of which a copy was provided to USA TODAY Sports, lists three
provisions in order to play this year:
1. There are no federal, state, city, or local restrictions on mass
gatherings or other restrictions that would materially limit the Clubs’
ability to play games in front of spectators, with regular fan access, in
each of the 30 Clubs’ home ballparks; provided, however, that the
Commissioner will consider the use of appropriate substitute neutral sites
where economically feasible.
2. There shall be no relevant restrictions on traveling throughout the United
States and Canada.
3. The Commissioner determines, after consultation with recognized medical
experts and the Players Association, that it does not pose an unreasonable
health and safety risk to players, staff, or spectators to stage games in
front of fans in each of the 30 Clubs’ home ballparks; provided that, the
Office of the Commissioner and Players Association will discuss in good faith
the economic feasibility of playing games in the absence of spectators or at
appropriate substitute neutral sites.
联盟就是根据上色部分和工会重谈薪资
关于上色部分的意思 联盟也据说曾和工会确认过
工会也同意是要在无观众比赛时谈减薪事宜
https://tinyurl.com/y8lcgz2j
In an email that Houlihan sent to deputy commissioner Dan Halem, MLB’s lead
negotiator, that was cc-ed to several other prominent league officials, he
wrote on Issue 1:
“Matt asked what ‘economic feasibility’ meant in Section I. I told him it
meant that we would only consider playing in neutral sites or without fans if
it worked for us economically. I reminded him of Rob’s comments at the
outset that playing in empty stadiums did not work for us economically. But I
said, for example, that we might be willing to have a conversation about
playing some limited number of games in empty stadiums if players agreed to
reduce their daily salaries for those games, and if it was part of a larger
plan that made economic sense. Matt confirmed that that is what he thought we
meant, but appreciated the confirmation.”
如果真的上仲裁庭 谁会被打脸呢?
(按照上次Kris Bryant仲裁的结果 感觉现在的仲裁人很偏资方...)
作者: Roshiel (Roshiel)   2020-06-13 19:53:00
换Bora$当工会主席才有搞头吧
作者: appshjkli (猫肉球)   2020-06-13 19:58:00
可以理解球员不想减薪啦 阿都不想谈时间过去场数只会变少不会变多 我真的觉得现在球员工会脑子有洞
作者: blacklittle (傻黑)   2020-06-13 20:39:00
老大那案子会判老大赢才怪吧...
作者: willywasd (dalikeanureeves)   2020-06-13 20:52:00
the sides remain entrenched in a disagreement over an agreement帮QQ
作者: ocean11 (深海)   2020-06-13 21:04:00
球员工会主席其实是老板团派去的卧底吧
作者: vgil (巴吉)   2020-06-13 21:09:00
球队赚不到钱球员薪水哪来 搞到最后双输
作者: sikerkuaitai (K)   2020-06-13 23:24:00
工会真的是一群87上谈判桌 老板少赚一年真的不会死但球员少领一年生计必出问题 把想工作的无辜球员拖下水 反正资方以逸待劳看劳方内斗
作者: t1016d (jo4)   2020-06-14 01:19:00
其实场次变少的同时联盟开出来的薪水反而没啥变化拖到时间剩五十场左右就会让联盟方付出一样的薪水 同时球员方领到 100% 照场次减少的薪水了接下来有趣的就是到了那个时间有没有哪一方改变标准
作者: ianshadow (雁影)   2020-06-14 03:17:00
KB仲裁的事情本来就是资方有理,白纸黑字的规定,是KB自己在闹
作者: Roshiel (Roshiel)   2020-06-13 11:53:00
换Bora$当工会主席才有搞头吧
作者: appshjkli (猫肉球)   2020-06-13 11:58:00
可以理解球员不想减薪啦 阿都不想谈时间过去场数只会变少不会变多 我真的觉得现在球员工会脑子有洞
作者: blacklittle (傻黑)   2020-06-13 12:39:00
老大那案子会判老大赢才怪吧...
作者: willywasd (dalikeanureeves)   2020-06-13 12:52:00
the sides remain entrenched in a disagreement over an agreement帮QQ
作者: ocean11 (深海)   2020-06-13 13:04:00
球员工会主席其实是老板团派去的卧底吧
作者: vgil (巴吉)   2020-06-13 13:09:00
球队赚不到钱球员薪水哪来 搞到最后双输
作者: sikerkuaitai (K)   2020-06-13 15:24:00
工会真的是一群87上谈判桌 老板少赚一年真的不会死但球员少领一年生计必出问题 把想工作的无辜球员拖下水 反正资方以逸待劳看劳方内斗
作者: t1016d (jo4)   2020-06-13 17:19:00
其实场次变少的同时联盟开出来的薪水反而没啥变化拖到时间剩五十场左右就会让联盟方付出一样的薪水 同时球员方领到 100% 照场次减少的薪水了接下来有趣的就是到了那个时间有没有哪一方改变标准
作者: ianshadow (雁影)   2020-06-13 19:17:00
KB仲裁的事情本来就是资方有理,白纸黑字的规定,是KB自己在闹
作者: Roshiel (Roshiel)   2020-06-13 20:12:00
印象中不是曼近平能直接宣布打50场例行赛,照比例给薪如果球员能拿到更多钱,才会愿意打更多场比赛吧
作者: chen5512 (奶奶遇到大酥胸)   2020-06-13 22:19:00
看推文大都是占在资方的立场去思考,真是棒
作者: x265 ( )   2020-06-13 23:21:00
还在共体时艰呀 应该是反过来才对吧 球员少赚一年没关系但老板可经不起亏损 每一分钱都要计较MLB球员不是穷人 现在低头 以后就等著常常被人压榨
作者: ChrisDavis (工业电风扇)   2020-06-14 00:44:00
老板能不打就不用付薪水 当然最好 而且已经有退让了然后现在是球员工会想要分更多但是场次又变少
作者: mirac1e (月下美人)   2020-06-14 02:53:00
今年应该是打不成了 连缩水球季都有问题
作者: Zodelyst (ㄌㄉㄌㄊ)   2020-06-14 08:47:00
老板还是希望打50场毕竟还是有些球队的转播快要重谈唯一没差的大概就NYY让保险进场 NYY根本没差那可拨的转播费 反正是自家的 赖了就赖了
作者: ewayne (ec)   2020-06-14 09:12:00
mlb球员不是穷人,那就不要打阿,看是谁倒楣囉…
作者: sampsonlu919 (欢迎所有球队教训旧金山)   2020-06-14 09:51:00
怒嘘XXXXXXXXX天杀该死的近平肺炎 就算早就知道劳资本来就紧张 就算也知道肺炎严重度 但我还是要说xxxxxxxxxx的汉堡王八块煎蛋
作者: sikerkuaitai (K)   2020-06-14 10:46:00
左胶总认为世界辜负自己 却不愿正视87工会长签的烂协议 搞成劳方完全拿资方没皮条
作者: Roshiel (Roshiel)   2020-06-14 11:57:00
说真的,MLB是垄断市场,资方本来就绝对有利吧只是工会也意外的废,以前不是很强势嘛
作者: sampsonlu919 (欢迎所有球队教训旧金山)   2020-06-14 13:05:00
另外就是MLB已经超过20年没有重大的劳资纠纷 所以早就被点名会是四大联盟中 近期下一个面临长期封馆
作者: Sulstan (翼鹏)   2020-06-17 11:52:00
我只想说如果2020球季不打快点把MLB TV的钱退给我

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