Fw: [讨论] 本垒攻防的规则 - 卡本垒板?

楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2018-04-07 13:00:16
※ [本文转录自 NY-Yankees 看板 #1Qo48xts ]
作者: rt3648yth (Archipelago群岛) 看板: NY-Yankees
标题: [讨论] Didi冲本垒out
时间: Sat Apr 7 11:59:49 2018
刚刚Didi的play相信大家都看过了,然后裁判的判决让多数版友(包含我)很不爽,所以呢,
小弟我刚刚去看了一下棒球规则7-13,先上原文内容:
OFFICIAL BASEBALL RULE 7.13 Collisions at home plate
A runner attempting to score may not deviate from his direct pathway to the
plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher (or other player covering
home plate). If, in the judgment of the umpire, a runner attempting to score
initiates contact with the catcher (or other player covering home plate) in
such a manner, the umpire shall declare the runner out (even if the player
covering home plate loses possession of the ball). In such circumstances, the
umpire shall call the ball dead, and all other baserunners shall return to
the last base touched at the time of the collision.
Rule 7.13 comment: The failure by the runner to make an effort to touch the
plate, the runner's lowering of the shoulder, or the runner's pushing through
with his hands, elbows or arms, would support a determination that the runner
deviated from the pathway in order to initiate contact with the catcher in
violation of Rule 7.13. If the runner slides into the plate in an appropriate
manner, he shall not be adjudged to have violated Rule 7.13. A slide shall be
deemed appropriate, in the case of a feet first slide, if the runner's
buttocks and legs should hit the ground before contact with the catcher. In
the case of a head first slide, a runner shall be deemed to have slid
appropriately if his body should hit the ground before contact with the
catcher.
Unless the catcher is in possession of the ball, the catcher cannot block the
pathway of the runner as he is attempting to score. If, in the judgment of
the umpire, the catcher without possession of the ball blocks the pathway of
the runner, the umpire shall call or signal the runner safe. Notwithstanding
the above, it shall not be considered a violation of this Rule 7.13 if the
catcher blocks the pathway of the runner in order to field a throw, and the
umpire determines that the catcher could not have fielded the ball without
blocking the pathway of the runner and that contact with the runner was
unavoidable.
可以注意到最后一段,里面只说到Catcher,但是没有说到补位的防守者,所以刚刚Givens
虽然有妨碍跑垒的嫌疑,但裁判无法用此条款来判他妨碍因此最后维持原判。
其他版友有什么想法呢? 欢迎在下面推文讨论
参考资料:https://goo.gl/TdhNDf
对了,补个道歉启事,wen大大,刚刚在live文下面我太冲动了,导致我发表一些激烈嘘
文,
冷静过后在此跟你说声抱歉orz。
作者: sonesnsdsosi (FOREVERSONE)   2017-04-07 12:03:00
楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2017-04-07 13:00:00
如果真的是因为补位的可以卡本垒板那自然应该判出局啦,只是这规则应该就有讨论的空间了吧...XD
作者: ForeverChop (ForeverChop)   2018-04-07 13:08:00
真要玩挡挡乐 那一堆美式足球员又有饭吃了
作者: TokyoHard (东京难)   2018-04-07 13:08:00
笑你投手不敢卡啦
作者: alanlee0502 (cowboy111)   2018-04-07 13:11:00
catcher应该是只接球者吧
作者: acd51874 (Iwakuma)   2018-04-07 13:16:00
那写fielder就好了为什么要写catcher,是吧XD
作者: tony900735 (大頭)   2018-04-07 13:24:00
https://i.imgur.com/R3TdNpQ.jpg大联盟的规则6.01(i)有附注or other player coveringhome plate所以投手也试用Posey Rule适用啊,漏看6.01(i)之1有写其他球员,但同条之2没写所以规则漏写
作者: isaac2104 (秋风萧瑟)   2018-04-07 13:36:00
球没传出来卡本垒有意义吗 这play 就是球传出来 投手跑来补位 在接球路迳上顺势卡位 确实有故意卡 但在传球路径上 又非补手 当然符合 另依上面说的 其他人故意卡本垒 球没传来完全就妨碍跑垒了
作者: bkm1 (殷仔 加油!!!)   2018-04-07 13:40:00
其实这球说卡也很怪 投手也是滑过来的 没有早就占好的状况我觉得Posey Rule解释空间很大 裁判的第一直觉很关键...
楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2018-04-07 13:45:00
说包围是气话啦,不过说真的跑垒者除非撞下去不然就算球还在空中也没可能突破补位者去碰本垒板吧XD 如果用传接球路径来说以后这种case就往打击区方向传就好
作者: bearlex (オレの歌を聴け!)   2018-04-07 13:48:00
这状况是合法卡位,那跑者是否就可合法撞下去毕竟没留空间给他摸本垒版啊
楼主: ZMTL (夜风/潇湘 VR板已经开板!)   2018-04-07 13:51:00
看起来目前是打者不能撞捕手(或其他防守员)、捕手也不能挡本垒板嗯XD*跑者
作者: NCTUsucks   2018-04-07 14:11:00
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作者: leegogo (李狗狗)   2018-04-08 00:56:00
裁判赛后说投手是为了接球 不算非法阻挡

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