[外电] 日职洋将谈大谷翔平(2)

楼主: whalelover (哞哞哞哞王)   2017-12-09 03:10:09
For Ex-Big Leaguers in Japan, Ohtani A Special But Not Invincible Talent
December 08, 2017 By Kyle Glaser
原文发表于Baseball America. https://goo.gl/CF1Rr2
So, is Ohtani ready to step in and be an ace-caliber starting pitcher from
day one? Not quite, in the eyes of the ex-big leaguers who faced him,
although they acknowledge he may get there eventually.
所以,大谷准备好成为王牌等级的先发投手了吗? 在这些前大联盟选手眼中,答案是未
必。尽管他们认可他也许最后会到达那个水准。
"If you compare him to like a (Yu) Darvish right now, I don't think he's
there yet," said former White Sox and Pirates infielder Brent Morel, who
played parts of six seasons in the majors before moving to the JPPL with Orix
the last two years. "Watching those guys pitch, they just have more of a
repertoire, and it seems like a better command of what they're doing.
Obviously he's younger, maybe skilled more, it's just kind of honing that in
and being more consistent. But it's definitely there."
"如果把他跟达比修那一类投手相比,我想还差一点。"前教士与海盗的内野手莫雷尔这
样说,他在过去这两年加入欧力士之前曾经在大联盟出赛六个球季。
"那些人投球,看起来就是有更多本领,而且确实掌控自己正在做什么。大谷显然更年轻
,或许技巧更好,但就是还需要一些磨练,然后变得更稳定些。不过他确实有那样的才
华。"
"He's not Masahiro Tanaka," Sarfate said. "Tanaka faced us in 2013 when I was
with Seibu. He was definitely far more advanced than what Ohtani is, but he
was also a little bit older. If you had said Tanaka (would compete for Cy
Youngs right away), I would've said absolutely. The guy commands three
pitches down in the zone, he's consistent every time he takes the mound;
there's no way Ohtani comes in his first year over and contends for the Cy
Young.
"他还比不上田中将大"沙发铁表示。
"2013年我在西武的时候,他(田中)有对上我们球队,他比起大谷来说绝对来更为高阶许
多,不过他年纪也比较大。如果你问田中可不可以(竞争赛杨奖),我会说绝对没问题。
那家伙能把三种球种控在好球带下缘,而且每次在投手丘上都很稳定。而大谷不可能在过
来第一年就成为赛杨奖的竞争者的"
"He is better than most guys I see pitch as a fourth or fifth starter. He can
definitely go there and pitch in the big leagues and you can let him have his
ups and downs. If he just worked on pitching, I think then he could be a Cy
Young winner."
"他比我看过绝大多数的四号或五号投手来的好,他绝对能在大联盟投球,就算有些起起
伏伏也可以接受。如果他只投球的话,我认为他有机会成为赛杨奖得主。"
And there lies the dilemma Ohtani's suitors face. Ohtani wants to hit and has
a long track record of success hitting in Japan, and teams making recruiting
pitches to him have been forced to get creative to find ways to get him
meaningful at-bats while also pitching. Whether that means days playing the
outfield, serving as a designated hitter or some combination of the two, it's
a schedule and workload that will not be easy.
这里就带出了一个大谷未来球队的难题。大谷想要打击,而且在日本已经有成功的纪录
过,招募他的球队被逼迫要在他投球的同时,想出怎么给他极具意义的打席数,不论是
让他守外野,或是担任指定打击,又或是两者皆是。这将不会是一个轻松的计划与负担。
The reason they are willing to do so is Ohtani's lefthanded power. It can be
jaw dropping to watch, even for ex-big leaguers who have seen Giancarlo
Stanton, Nelson Cruz and other big-time sluggers put on massive power
displays.
他们愿意这样做的原因是大谷是个左打者。即使是对看过Giancarlo Stanton、Nelson
Cruz或其他重砲的前大联盟球员来说,看他打击也让人目瞪口呆。
"First time I saw him take batting practice was unreal," Romero said. "He was
just hitting the ball with ease. His power is ridiculous. Brandon Laird, who
is on his team, came up to me and was like 'Hey, watch Ohtani's BP,' because
they're in the same hitting group. So I was like all right. He was just
hitting balls opposite field 20 rows up at their stadium, and their stadium
at Sapporo is a pretty legit sized stadium. It's not small by any means, and
he's just oppo 20 rows deep, center field 20 rows deep, and then pull side
he's going like 40 rows, almost on top of the concourse. I'm like, 'That's
just ridiculous.'"
"我第一次看他打击练习的时候,那简直不可思议。"罗梅洛说
"他就是轻松的把球送出去,他的power太扯了。那时候雷阿斗跟他(大谷)同队,他们在
同一组打击练习,他过来跟我说,嘿,来看大谷打击练习啊,我想说好吧。他把球送到
反方向20排观众席,他们在札幌的球场是个正规尺寸的球场,从哪一方面来说都不算小,
而他直接把球送到反方向20排,中外野20排,至于拉打那边,他能打到大概40排远,都
快到最上层了,我那时候觉得真的有够扯。"
But whether or not Ohtani will be able to get to that power against big
league pitching is an open debate.
但大谷在对上大联盟投手的时候还能不能有那样的power就有得讨论了。
Sarfate, for example, has been able to keep Ohtani in check over the five
seasons he's faced him.
举例来说,沙发铁就能在超过五个球季的对决中取得上风。
"I think I faced him 11 times and I think I gave up a single and triple, and
the single was actually a squiggler down the third-base line that he beat
out." Sarfate said. "He's got decent plate awareness, the only problem I see
him having issues with early on—and he can make the adjustment—is fastballs
in. Japanese guys tend to stay away from him, I think it's a lot of respect
and they don't want to throw a fastball in and break his arm or hit him in
the elbow. I think he's aware of that, that no one pitches him in. I pitch
him in and have had good success going in.
"我记得我对上他11次吧,其中被打一支一垒安打,一支三垒安打,而且那支一垒安打是
掉在三垒边线上的鸟安"沙发铁说。
"他在打击区里有不错的感觉,我看到他唯一的问题
作者: leegogo (李狗狗)   2017-12-09 03:25:00
作者: jack86326 (刚注册成功)   2017-12-09 03:30:00
推翻译 结果全文翻译完就传出当天使(价码未知)
作者: jeter8695 (kuangkuang )   2017-12-09 03:31:00
推个
作者: tim77327 ([no mind])   2017-12-09 04:02:00
推 内角球这点真的是很值得探讨,就看大谷如何去面对了!
作者: a2156700 (斯坦福桥)   2017-12-09 04:04:00
西瓜籽说大谷只会拉打==
作者: hikaruton (Tonia~黄色希卡鲁)   2017-12-09 07:08:00
这篇内容很有参考价值,感谢翻译
作者: aotom (aotom)   2017-12-09 07:20:00
其实我想大部分的打者内角球会是弱点吧?大谷得多适应才行
作者: tfrence (秋后文青)   2017-12-09 08:47:00
推好文
作者: mightymouse (翻堕罗流大师)   2017-12-09 09:07:00
全大联盟能打好内角速球的也没几个人啊
作者: b99202071 (b99202071)   2017-12-09 09:28:00
大谷在npb时是内角打的比外角好的
作者: melissalewis (龙使弗利兹)   2017-12-09 09:51:00
感谢翻译
作者: kevininla ((kevin)   2017-12-09 09:57:00
感觉第一年一定会被说过誉XDD
作者: musk (musk)   2017-12-09 10:07:00
推翻译!感谢!
作者: Kydland (RBC)   2017-12-09 10:07:00
正确来说应该是日本投手对上大谷的浅规则就是不能内角所以导致他内角球看得少 而这会形成他们弱点不是单纯的说他内角球打不好这是两个不同的逻辑他不是内角球打不好 而是没看过几颗内角球
作者: Iceseed (冻种标音班)   2017-12-09 10:10:00
推推
作者: BLUEDX (浪)   2017-12-09 10:47:00
作者: leegogo (李狗狗)   2017-12-09 12:06:00
我记得日本一的再见安打那球就是内角?
作者: b99202071 (b99202071)   2017-12-09 12:27:00
16年因为反方向长出来在外角轰很多HR后投手就开始丢很多内角了
作者: AandC (86886)   2017-12-09 13:20:00
日本一再见安打那球真的让人印象深刻
作者: Raskolnikov (拉斯柯尔尼科夫)   2017-12-09 14:04:00
应该问问Laired才对
作者: autechre (autechre)   2017-12-09 14:09:00
看到内角球那段 原来one out讲的都是真的 XDDDD
作者: b99202071 (b99202071)   2017-12-09 17:54:00
至少有数据显示16年面对内角球比例NPB左打者最多
作者: kobec (水桶工程师)   2017-12-09 23:37:00
推翻译

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