http://tinyurl.com/bqy9de3
"The thing about it I wouldn't question is the format," Smith said. "You've
got your player's batting, his fielding, his baserunning. How well he stays
out of double plays, turns double plays. How he prevents runners from
advancing. You can express all of those things in runs. And once you do that,
you add them up, and it seems so common sense, I don't understand why people
would question it."
Sean Smith (BR版WAR开发人): 我从不怀疑公式 你计算球员的打击 防守 跑垒
避免双杀 制造双杀 防止抢垒 把这些换算成分数 然后相加 这不是很合乎常识吗?
我不懂为什么人们要质疑它
That said, they don't invalidate the metric's more accurate pieces. As Smith
said: "I think you can use WAR without crunching a single defensive number.
You can take scouting reports and divide guys into above, average, below.
Fudge the numbers. Use scouting-based defensive numbers. If they all match
somewhat, use it. If they don't match, you've got to make a judgment call as
to what's best.
"不用数据也可以计算WAR 例如使用球探报告 把球员分成上中下 推测个数字 然后带入
如果不合 就再做另一次猜测"
"I just couldn't justify ignoring defense entirely."
"我只是无法忽略防守不计"
作者:
porten812 (节能.减碳.发优文)
2011-01-14 22:51:00战!
作者: BlitzX 2011-01-14 22:55:00
连公式都没有统一的东西是要怎么不被质疑
作者:
zyx12320 (zyx12320)
2011-01-14 22:56:00结论:Trout拿MVP
作者:
ROMEL (Bin)
2011-01-14 22:58:00举Silver是想说真正的数据头强者便是凶狠强劲霸吧 XD
计算化学的公式也没统一阿 可以喂给电脑不同公式得到不同答案
作者:
Valter (V)
2011-01-14 23:09:00别人家算出来的有时候排名还会不太一样...
BA, BP, ESPN, Sickels 给的新秀排名有一样过吗?
等等会不会有人要说棒球不是加减乘除就可以知道的了(误
作者:
Datow (NDHU)
2011-01-14 23:31:00两家用不同的公式来表达,发展,完成同一个概念
作者:
Datow (NDHU)
2011-01-14 23:32:00不代表这个概念没价值阿
作者: lolity 2011-01-14 23:32:00
其实美国总统大选,难预测的就只是那几个“摇摆州”(5-6),
作者: lolity 2011-01-14 23:33:00
50州里面40-45都是大势底定,没啥好猜测的。你看他们两党
作者: lolity 2011-01-14 23:34:00
候选人只跑“摇摆州”造势就知道了。
作者: lolity 2011-01-14 23:36:00
所以不用Nate Silver,任何人预测准确率铁定都40/50以上,不过这次的摇摆州情势真的是超级接近,能全队确实不简单。
作者:
terop (琉璃狮子)
2011-01-14 23:54:00因为公式会让你听不到纯粹的声音(误
作者: mightymouse (翻堕罗流大师) 2011-01-14 23:57:00
公式统不统一不是重点,重点是这个数字的概念最起码他是把跑垒,防守考虑进去了
作者:
Pujols5 (Albert Pujols)
2011-01-15 00:09:00pure sound只有顶级球探听的到阿XD
数据是一种解释方式,看你信不信阿,还是信我感觉比较准?XD
作者:
ocean11 (深海)
2011-01-15 00:24:00就WAR作者自我的感觉跟我们观众自己自我的感觉,看相信谁
棒球不只是算算数!! 球迷的心是热的!!!! 靠感觉!!!
作者:
goopa (除此之外)
2011-01-15 00:48:00我觉得跑预测跑出来50州都命中其实还好 重点就是那几州而已
问题就那几州(举个例8州摇摆,8中8,8中7其实都很准了
作者:
god2 (乙炔)
2011-01-15 01:15:00还是很强吧
作者:
l60km (/hr)
2011-01-15 02:15:00不太认同2楼说的话
作者: Polar 2011-01-15 15:03:00
“纯粹的声音”是人生决胜球的哏吗?XD
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