Nightengale: Cabrera easy MVP choice

楼主: abc12812   2012-10-03 22:01:58
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Please, my fellow voters of the Baseball Writers' Association of America,
can't we all get along?
大家别吵囉
Yes, I believe there is one rational AL choice when voters are required to
submit their MVP ballots after today's games.
我相信合理的MLB选择已经出来了
His name is Miguel Cabrera.
就是Cabrera
There's no need for name-calling. But, honestly, I don't believe the race is
close.
竞争完全不激烈
Never in my wildest dreams did I envision a need to justify an MVP award for
a man who's poised to become the first player since the Boston Red Sox's Carl
Yastrzemski in 1967 to win a Triple Crown, all while leading his team to the
American League Central title.
成为1967年后首位三冠王 加上带领球队拿下分区冠军
拿下MVP的理由还不够充分吗?
Then again, who imagined a rookie season like Trout's?
Cabrera enters Wednesday leading the American League with 44 homers, 139 RBI
and a .331 batting average. His 137 RBI, 203 hits, 40 doubles and 44 homers
have been equaled by only Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig.
137打点 40二安 44轰的成就只有Babe Ruth和Lou Gehrig达成过
Trout, 21, produced one of the greatest rookie seasons in history, and no
player at any age has scored 125 runs with 40 stolen bases and 30 homers.
Trout打出史上最好的新秀球季之一
Trout might be the only man standing who can ruin Cabrera's Triple Crown bid
with his .325 batting average, but he can't stand in the way of his MVP
award, not with the huge disparity down the stretch.
Trout是唯一有机会抢走打击王的人
但他抢不走MVP
Take a peek since Aug. 1 heading into Tuesday:
Cabrera: .343 with 42 runs, 19 homers, 52 RBI, .411 on-base percentage, .676
slugging, 1.087 on-base plus slugging percentage.
Trout: .284 with 49 runs, 12 homers, 28 RBI, 17 stolen bases, .381 OBP, .500
slugging, .881 OPS.
八月后的成绩:
Cabrera: .343 得分42 全垒打19 打点52 .444上垒率 .676长打率 1.087 OPS
Trout: .284 得分49 12全垒打 28打点 17盗垒 .381上垒率 .500长打率 .881 OPS
If that's not enough, wrap your mind around one of the most integral aspects
to be considered in MVP balloting:
这还不够有说服力的话 想想MVP票选最重要的面相吧
A players' impact on his team.
对球队的影响
It doesn't matter if Trout leads the world in WAR or peace, no player in the
AL meant more to his team this year than Cabrera.
管他什么WAR的 没有一个球员比Cabrera对他的球队更重要的了
Trout, for you Wins Above Replacement aficionados, might have a higher total
(10.3 to 7.1), but Cabrera actually has a higher percentage of his team total
(33.5% to 27.2%), courtesy of colleague Paul White.
Cabrera占球队WAR比重比Trout高
Cabrera led his team to a first-place finish in the AL Central, with the
Tigers opening the playoffs Saturday at Comerica Park.
老虎要进季后赛了
The Angels, despite an 83-57 run since Trout's April 28 call-up, will finish
third in the AL West.
天使只排分区第三
Take Trout away from the Angels this year, and Los Angeles still would have
finished next-to-last, ahead of the Seattle Mariners.
有没有Trout 天使都只赢水手
Take Cabrera away from the Tigers, and they would have set up their golf tee
times a month ago.
没Cabrera的话 老虎现在就要准备打PGA了
Before anyone gets cute, let's end the idea that it's inconsequential since
the Angels have two more wins than the Tigers. The Red Sox had the same
victory total as the St. Louis Cardinals last year, but we can't remember a
soul apologizing for the Red Sox.
说天使胜场比老虎多的人 想想去年的红袜吧
红袜去年胜场和红雀一样多呢
It's also time to stop with the defensive comparison. No one is arguing that
Trout is a better defensive center fielder than Cabrera is a third baseman.
防守上 当然Trout是比较好没错
Remember that Cabrera is the one who moved to third base, after a five-year
layoff, to make room for free agent Prince Fielder. Cabrera is hardly a Gold
Glove nominee, but he has startled scouts with his adequacy.
不过别忘记Cabrera为了把1B位置让给Prince Fielder而无私移防三垒
Cabrera固然不是金手套 但他也不是漏洞
So now we're going to penalize Cabrera for moving from first base?
所以Cabrera要因为他的移防而招致批评吗?
Uh-uh. Doesn't work that way.
Trout is a wonderful story, a player who overcame a thyroid condition this
spring that robbed him of 20pounds, and should be honored as the unanimous
rookie of the year winner.
Trout是很好的故事
He just won't be the MVP.
只是他不是MVP
Take a bow, Miguel Cabrera.
Cabrera 去领奖吧
作者: wsan (花火)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
翻译辛苦了!! "八月后成绩" 部份 Trout 少了 "得分" 数据~~
作者: nolimits (爱盗人)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
没Cabrera的话 老虎现在就要准备打PGA了XD
作者: evilwyh (我相信我可以。)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
红袜又中枪XDD
作者: o0991758566 (洨马力)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
你太强了 光是MVP争论的部分已经发了15篇文 伟哉~
作者: albertjet (竹林八闲)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
他的占球队比重是只算打者吗?
作者: robertchun (我是大废物)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
XDD
作者: kurtzz   0000-00-00 00:00:00
这篇有点弱...
作者: yankeefat (本人内建试制51cm连装砲)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
这些MVP相关的文章都很没意义
作者: rookiebear (rookiebear)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
PGA是啥啊XDDDDDDDDDD
作者: bkm1 (殷仔 加油!!!)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
其实我觉得胖卡稳拿的 就像去年V壮年 拿MVP气势很重要
作者: bkm1 (殷仔 加油!!!)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
Trout从火星回来地球速度太快了 隔年再拼吧!
作者: JoshBeckett (少年英雄)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
PGA就是之前谣传红袜投手们最喜欢的联赛
作者: ust (应经游侠魂)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
这篇怎么很有说服力 = =
作者: whitemist (剑邵)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
PGA 就是去打高尔夫的意思啦 XD
作者: safeorout (安全)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
我怎么觉得这篇论点一点说服力也没有
作者: whalelover (哞哞哞哞王)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
反正吵半天 最后还不是看BBWAA会员爽投谁就投谁Why not just wait and see?
作者: whalelover (哞哞哞哞王)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
我觉得既然吵到现在两派完全无法达成任何共识 就差不多该停了吧= =
作者: miabcd199 (超级喜欢周迅)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
有没有Trout 天使都只赢水手 有点中肯
作者: miabcd199 (超级喜欢周迅)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
只是这系列文看到有点腻了..
作者: helba (网络贫民窟)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
推PGA XDDD
作者: mkoo (米糕)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
为舌么会有两派??? 有人以为Trout会拿MVP??????????????????
作者: SlamKai (Calm Violence)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
有阿 ~.~
楼主: abc12812   0000-00-00 00:00:00
ESPN的Jayson Stark就投给Trout
作者: z2114422 (Hunting)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
这跟我18086篇的论点根本一样 我来当专栏写手好了
作者: lions402 (...)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
最近这种文都END 好烦.....
作者: K77251   0000-00-00 00:00:00
天使胜场和去年红袜一样多 讲得太好了XDD
作者: saidon ( )   0000-00-00 00:00:00
去年红袜又中枪XD
作者: a2156700 (斯坦福桥)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
老大才能拿MVP
作者: philluke (骨折)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
看到分区冠军... LAA战绩可是比所谓分区冠军还好....
作者: flowerkid (Never give up)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
这话题战了好久...我猜Cabrera拿MVP...XD
作者: bband022840 (bband)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
虽然我也觉得米糕会拿,但看了这篇文后更希望TROUT拿
作者: kutar3d (库塔)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
红袜有够惨 XDDD
作者: lingsk (尘俗过隙)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
等投票出来再说 勿忘10AL CY打了多少脸
作者: globekiller (世界越快 心则慢)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
红袜去年胜场跟红雀一样多XDDDD
作者: yehudi (soger)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
明星赛以前我认为Trout会拿 但之后米糕起飞后 就知道结果了
作者: ykshih (失一墩)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
希望trout拿MVP来打脸+1 前年看King拿打脸好爽
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
我也好希望打脸 毕竟RBI这种数据实在是很没意义
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
比MVP时会没意义吗 虽然都说RBI是运气 因为RISP不稳定
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
AVG可能还比RBI有价值多了 虽然AVG也是众所周知的糟
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
但是打了就是打了阿 这是贡献
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
所以MVP真的就别再参考RBI了吧 质疑WAR可以用别的进阶
作者: duncan6502 (Steve Nash)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
我也希望 分区冠军.....? 夜郎自大
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
数据,这种凭运气,还要跟队友搏感情的数据......
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
MVP比的是贡献 拿RBI来参考没什么错阿队友上垒你打的回来就是种贡献 是实力还是运气根本不重要
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
问题是这种贡献是别人做球给你的 还是靠自己打回来的?如果RBI真这么重要 那第一棒岂非原罪?
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
就算拿RISP来评论MVP我也认为没什么错运气归运气 贡献归贡献
作者: live4132 (赵汝浩)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
Trout WAR破10 贡献度明显更大
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
用RISP选MVP? 别闹了 那不如用抽签算了 反正差不多
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
投给Trout也没什么不对 我只是不认为实际投票差距会有两人
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
的WAR差距这么大就是了我只是认为把RISP当作投MVP时的一个加分选项也很正常而已
作者: wsan (花火)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
每一个数据可以拿来 "参考" 但拿来 "决定" 就有可能会惹争议
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
有数据可以直接决定就不需要投票了 只是参加价值多寡而已
作者: wagner (熊麻吉)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
RBI跟得点圈打击率有相关吧 怎会不重要
作者: albertjet (竹林八闲)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
WAR算起来 Trout 是几个 C.Gonzalez? 真的会差这么多?
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
RISP就是一个碰运气的数据 它最大的用途就是拿来判断
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
哪些球员被高估(RISP太高)或低估(RISP过低)
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
运气又如何呢 打出来就是打出来了 贡献就是贡献
作者: g7063068 (屏东尼大木博士)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
做球给你也要有实力打回来阿 掌握每次机会错了吗?
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
另外....三冠王数据与防守、走垒、送球都无涉只用三冠王也太偏颇了吧
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
掌握机会当然很好 问题是有些人一排棒次就没啥机会
作者: g7063068 (屏东尼大木博士)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
那你就一直掌握好该有的机会 棒次就会往前啦
作者: OoyaoO (你今天崩潰了嗎 囧)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
Atro说的是Trout一棒跟米糕中心的差别这不是打得好就可以更动棒次的
作者: Atropos0723 (Atropos)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
是的 就是表现很好 棒次就往前排第一棒啦....
作者: PTTerme (童颜巨根)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
没Cabrera的话 老虎现在就要准备打PGA了XD
作者: ryvius0723 (シロクマ)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
第一棒拿MVP的例子又不是没有 关棒次屁事
作者: god2 (乙炔)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
不是很同意那个八月后分割法
作者: god2 (乙炔)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
另外运气是拿来评估球员实力的,不能拿进来贬低贡献
作者: Ayukawayen (亚布里艾尔发芽>//<)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
得分也不全是打出RBI球员的贡献 上垒/推垒的都有贡献
作者: Ayukawayen (亚布里艾尔发芽>//<)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
所以还是看登山路线图(#1EPCXWaR)决定贡献量吧(误)
作者: chienliang7 (RyoSon)   0000-00-00 00:00:00
看到PGA狂笑XDDDDDD

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