[外电] Showalter: "洋基的抱怨对Flanny不敬"

楼主: RogerWaters (希望你在这里)   2011-08-29 16:18:47
  金莺队的总教练Buck Sowalter 不满的表示: 洋基抱怨金莺不在周五排双重赛,
而让洋基犠牲原本9月8日与金莺比一场,是对悲剧自杀过世的前赛扬投手金莺队的
Mike Flanagan不敬。他表示:
"据我了解,洋基队是在不到24小时前连络Andy (MacPhail)的。首先,坦白来说,
我觉得这样的种反应,是对过世的Flanny有点不敬,让我觉得不好受,让金莺球团
来难过之余,还要处理洋基的抱怨。想想当初四月因雨延赛时,洋基队只通知我们
什么时候补赛,我们就什么时候比赛。"
"我知道有时候是没有人在意我们的意见。洋基觉得除了金莺以外,其他队都在周五
先作双重赛,根本不该劳烦洋基9月8日再来补赛,这样根本不是用棒球的观点来作
补赛的决定。我觉得这么是有点虚伪,但我不会一直在意这件事。洋基说金莺该如
何作才是对得起洋基球团和洋基的球迷,这跟我个人一点关系都没有。我想告诉你
的是我们只会尽全力去作,对得起金莺球团和金莺球迷的事情。我也希望洋基队对
得起自己球团和洋基迷就够了。"
"有些人还建议将补赛改到他们主场去比赛,然后会给我们部份门票的收入。这话是
挺有趣的,我们也知道这边会有很多洋基球迷来看球赛,所以该有不同的考量。我
也确认球团已经考虑到所有的事情,我希望未来不会发生相同的事了。如果洋基可
以停止抱怨好好想想这件事,未来再发生相同的事,就不会只想到自己,也会有不
同的考量了。"
"要我算了注意比赛就行了?很多人根本不在意我们这种弱小球队的意见,我们也在
打棒球,发生一些事时,我们也会有不同的考量,想想怎么才是对我们球迷最好的。
什么才是球队在主客场间来回,对金莺球员的旅程和吃宿等问题是最好的...如果下
雨或下雪,该一天打18局或9局?"
"我希望我们有一天也可能像洋基一样有竞争力。我尊重他们本季可以打那么好,打
得好的人说话就比较大声。但也尊重一下我们,我们也要想想怎么才是对金莺球团
和球迷是最好的。就这样..."
总结:打得不好的球队也是人,别以为打得好的球队说话才比较大声...
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Showalter says Yankees' complaints were "disrespectful to Flanny"
August 28, 2011 12:01 PM by Roch Kubatko
Manager Buck Showalter knows that the Yankees are chafed at the Orioles for
refusing to schedule a doubleheader on Friday and costing them the Sept. 8
off-day. And he really doesn't care.
Showalter spoke calmly today, but he didn't pull any punches while addressing
the topic with reporters before Game 1. He also referenced the tragic death
of former Orioles pitcher Mike Flanagan.
"The way I understand, I think they approached Andy (MacPhail) less than 24
hours before," he said. "First of all, I felt that some of the stuff was a
little disrespectful to Flanny, quite frankly. That didn't sit well with me
very well. I can tell you that. I think we had an April rainout there and
they just told us when we were playing. We were OK with that. Like I told you
the other day, you tell us when we're playing, we'll play.
"We understand that sometimes our opinions on things are not relevant. They
come to me when there are two options and talk about it from a baseball
standpoint. Every club does that. But some of it kind of has a feeling of
hypocrisy. I don't know. I don't dwell on it. Their opinion on what the
Baltimore Orioles should do for their fans and for their organization isn't
really that relevant to me personally. I can tell you that. We'll do what's
best for our fans and for our organization, and we expect it back that
they're going to do the same on their side.
"Somebody said they offered us to play them there and they were going to give
us part of the gate. That's interesting. We also realize that there's a lot
of Yankees fans here that come to the games and there are a lot of different
things to think about. I'm real confident that our guys have thought about
every possible thing and we hope that the scenario we've had coming back home
here never presents itself again. I'm sure if they stopped and thought about
it, if the same thing happened to one of their greats, that they probably
would have given a lot of consideration to how they were going to handle that
day.
"You want me to keep going? A lot of people don't really care about what our
opinions are about different parts of baseball. We play baseball. If there's
something out there, it's all about what's best for the fans and a lot of
different things. Where it fits into us with all the great modes of how we're
able to do this between travel and food, I just find it... Is it raining, is
it snowing, is it 18 innings, nine? Let's go.
"We hope one day that we can be as competitive as they are. I respect where
they are in the season and what their people are saying about the competitive
part of it, but it means something to us, too. We'll continue to do what's
best for the Baltimore Orioles and the fans, which are the same thing. Along
the way, we'll wear that. Sometimes we confuse some things from a real life
standpoint compared to what we're actually doing here, OK? Obviously, there's
more, but I'll stop there."
Also, Showalter said Jake Arrieta has more flexibility in his right elbow now
than he did before the surgery to remove a bone spur.
Chris Davis (shoulder) could begin baseball-related activities Wednesday or
Thursday. Cesar Izturis (groin) could begin his injury-rehab assignment on
Friday or Saturday.
Jason Berken's wife will have induced labor on Tuesday.
Alfredo Simon and Jo-Jo Reyes are in the bullpen today.
Showalter listed two reasons why Mark Hendrickson was chosen to replace Troy
Patton on the 25-man roster. "Mark was pitching fairly well, and with his
family in York, I'm sure they liked having him home for the storm."
Hendrickson has signed another consent form allowing the Orioles to option
him to Triple-A Norfolk. However, it's "not a given" that he'll come off the
roster once Patton returns Monday or Tuesday, Showalter said.
作者: searoar (暗坑大豆)   2011-08-29 16:25:00
tsna有新闻 可惜是中文
作者: Vinsanity (Gotvinsanity)   2011-08-29 16:31:00
"抱"怨
作者: Pennyjr (木头人)   2011-08-29 16:32:00
战意满点
作者: siliver (奶茶猫~~号:)   2011-08-29 16:34:00
完全看不出来比双重赛跟不敬有啥关联 =.=a
作者: maikxz (超级痛痛人)   2011-08-29 16:34:00
乡亲耶 拉板凳看戏啦 φ(._. )>
作者: white75724 (忙中偷闲)   2011-08-29 16:35:00
被砲轰了当然奇模子不爽啦 尊敬只是拿来说嘴用的而已
楼主: RogerWaters (希望你在这里)   2011-08-29 16:36:00
但中文那篇没什么战意...呵呵...
作者: Yukirin (いい天気!)   2011-08-29 16:42:00
关Mike Flanagan屁事啊拿出来当借口的而已吧这才是不尊重
作者: Sucks (烂烂的)   2011-08-29 16:44:00
不尊重的点在哪了?消费死人 何况他是自杀死亡的
作者: FaceBlind (喜欢大奶妹的色小鬼翔太)   2011-08-29 16:45:00
自杀死会怎样? 上不了天堂吗?
作者: heacoun (玩具)   2011-08-29 16:45:00
请问拖过世的人出来的点在哪里
作者: lingsk (尘俗过隙)   2011-08-29 16:46:00
要看之前4月延赛金莺是否有跟洋基抱怨
作者: Yukirin (いい天気!)   2011-08-29 16:47:00
四月延赛跟八月的延赛根本不能相提并论啊 后期吃紧多了
作者: Sucks (烂烂的)   2011-08-29 16:48:00
对于一个不珍惜生命 做出不好示范的 我不想评论
作者: Tulowitzki2 (图喏)   2011-08-29 16:49:00
第二段有说跟Flanagan关系,因为他忌日在8/24
作者: lef1986 (303)   2011-08-29 16:50:00
可以提早回家烤肉的就安分点
作者: ckbaboon (救救北极熊)   2011-08-29 17:05:00
感觉就是嘴砲不用钱 笑死人 他季初不是也一直放话吗
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 17:06:00
在金莺主场金莺爽就好阿 难不成金莺还要替洋基队考虑要不要
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 17:07:00
让他们球员休息欧??洋基其实也没什么好抱怨的吧??
作者: lsmking7219 (全部写出来阿)   2011-08-29 17:11:00
没打那场也没什么差 会不会进季后赛比较重要
作者: steve8 (wbc)   2011-08-29 17:20:00
外卡跟联盟第一就有差了
作者: maikxz (超级痛痛人)   2011-08-29 17:28:00
不过今年美联没有长赛程可以选就是了 主要就1.主场优势 2.对战对手
作者: waderu (滑的鲁夫?)   2011-08-29 17:34:00
Mike Flanagan: XXX 也中枪...
作者: AWainwright (我将再起)   2011-08-29 17:35:00
他真的躺着了...QQ
作者: gorhow (☑一日牛迷)   2011-08-29 17:37:00
金鸟很会推拖 -.-
作者: a88152660 (Erictseng)   2011-08-29 18:15:00
嫌金鸟推托却不嫌洋基抱怨?
作者: d9730090 (阿酿)   2011-08-29 18:21:00
有钱的是老大阿
作者: rayven (掷筊才是真正云端运算)   2011-08-29 18:29:00
自杀在阿拉巴马州跟奥克拉荷马州算是犯罪
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:31:00
主场球队决定在homestand首战举行Tribute仪式,
作者: xyzzz (阿)   2011-08-29 18:32:00
金莺扯太远了吧....LUB~~
作者: darksign (离云)   2011-08-29 18:32:00
大伙进攻囉~
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:33:00
决定不打双重赛,使原本四天五战的系列赛演变成
作者: Yukirin (いい天気!)   2011-08-29 18:34:00
抱怨跟反驳都无可厚非啊 这什么烂反驳才是重点
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:35:00
剩下两天要消化四场比赛,NYY只同意周日打DH,
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:37:00
不同意周一也打DH (周二开始要打BOS), 所以就
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:39:00
消耗到接下来的休兵日;Cashman,Gerardi,Granderson为此
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:40:00
提出抱怨, Showalter 提出反击罢了. 感想:
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:41:00
第一, 赛程安排主场球队有决定权, 没啥好争论的
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:43:00
第二, NYY 的人士抱怨也是人之常情
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:45:00
第三,但是谁叫金鸟惹到的是媒体宠儿NYY,被抱怨火力加成
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:49:00
用到"disrespectful"是反应过度了些,但是要尊重
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:50:00
主场球队的赛事和活动安排应该是理所当然的,
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 18:51:00
洋基球员然可以抱怨自己这样打很累 总教练替自己球员说话也
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:51:00
不能因为主队垫底而客队是NYY,就表示人家该多替你的
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 18:52:00
理所当然 但去抱怨赛程安排很明显就是洋基自己的问题了今天如果立场互换 我不信金莺球员喊累抱怨洋基队会鸟他们
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 18:52:00
pennant race 多做着想
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 18:55:00
游戏规则已经定了要尊重主场球队 就不该还抱怨赛程安排
作者: sidney78 (硬汉)   2011-08-29 18:59:00
直接说不爽打就好 干嘛扯死者 真无聊 脑袋有?
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 19:02:00
重点是NYY抱怨的是周五为啥不打双重赛,啊就金鸟当天
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 19:04:00
要举行Tribute,所以不安排双重赛;这跟Flanny当然有关
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 19:05:00
理由是什么根本没差 反正只要G总出来抱怨大家就都会砲击吧
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 19:06:00
这就是媒体宠儿的优势 球迷多咩XD
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 19:06:00
Showalter 不是随便把 Flanny 扯进争论里面的
作者: sidney78 (硬汉)   2011-08-29 19:06:00
喔喔 SOGA
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 19:17:00
不少板友不清楚争论起因之一是周五金鸟为举行Flanny
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 19:19:00
致敬仪式而没顺NYY的意打DH,造成帝国人士抱怨;
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 19:20:00
就直接跳进来说金鸟的反击无聊乱扯,这就是NYY的优势?
作者: jayin07 ( ⊙o⊙)   2011-08-29 19:26:00
是的,这就是优势~
作者: CORYCHAN (CORY)   2011-08-29 19:38:00
在PTT打嘴砲的优势? 笑死我了XD
作者: a88152660 (Erictseng)   2011-08-29 19:44:00
无理取闹都有人支持 真是超棒的!
作者: mightymouse (翻堕罗流大师)   2011-08-29 19:55:00
我不是很了解DH跟纪念仪式的关系,打两场就不能纪念吗?
作者: a88152660 (Erictseng)   2011-08-29 19:58:00
金鸟并不想要打两场...主人不想要你这客人还吵什么...
作者: frakx (何去何从)   2011-08-29 20:14:00
抱怨一下很正常
作者: steed (......)   2011-08-29 20:28:00
讲到Lidle时又是另一种反应了 颗颗
作者: tonyis7 (ALL)   2011-08-29 20:44:00
翻译只翻一半 部份只读译文的读者自然容易误解
作者: tonyis7 (ALL)   2011-08-29 20:56:00
以此文来说 不加译注说明Flanny与此事的关系便不适当
楼主: RogerWaters (希望你在这里)   2011-08-29 21:18:00
是哦..原来这里翻译新闻..没有注译就不适当..还是PO
楼主: RogerWaters (希望你在这里)   2011-08-29 21:19:00
本季各队XX文, 比较爽...爱怎么PO就怎么PO
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 21:19:00
译文还有一点有误,Somebody (in NYY camp)说的不是
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 21:21:00
"洋基到巴尔的摩作客为金莺带来票房",
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 21:23:00
而是"提出把比赛改到纽约打,然后把部分门票收入
作者: wazowski (ludan)   2011-08-29 21:27:00
分给金莺吃红的建议". 感想: 战绩差没人爱的球队真悲哀
作者: CORYCHAN (CORY)   2011-08-29 21:27:00
我也有注意到 但会提出这种意见的人真是脑子有洞
作者: CORYCHAN (CORY)   2011-08-29 21:29:00
自以为NYY人气高就可以不尊重主场球队 还提出对自己有利
楼主: RogerWaters (希望你在这里)   2011-08-29 21:29:00
感谢wazowski的指正...
作者: immortalqq (大牛)   2011-08-29 21:54:00
尊重 理性 很难吗?
作者: wongwong123   2011-08-29 22:27:00
这样排抱怨很正常吧? 如果立场颠倒金鸟会不会抱怨? XD
作者: a88152660 (Erictseng)   2011-08-29 22:28:00
但金鸟抱怨没人会鸟啊...
作者: frakx (何去何从)   2011-08-29 22:31:00
洋基抱怨了也还是要乖乖听主场球队阿XD
作者: frakx (何去何从)   2011-08-29 22:32:00
哪个无脑提议的确很不尊重就是
作者: dimko (挣脱)   2011-08-29 22:35:00
金莺会抱怨 但没有媒体会当一回事 洋基是全国主场 所以去哪补赛都没差 这应该是提议人的想法
作者: sarspieya521 (HANA)   2011-08-29 22:40:00
谁在跟你洋基是全国主场...
作者: cloudyst (水中沙)   2011-08-29 22:50:00
就嘴砲两句 就被酸成这样 不是媒体宠 是酸迷放大罢了
作者: YYL00 (非本人)   2011-08-29 23:16:00
不是一堆人在酸金鸟??????
作者: amadeus1223 (L'amor Celeste)   2011-08-29 23:39:00
很多人不把整件事情了解清楚就在呛...推wazowski
作者: Fitzwilliam (Out of touch)   2011-08-29 23:47:00
不只呛向死者致敬的金鸟,连死者都不放过
作者: melissalewis (龙使弗利兹)   2011-08-30 00:38:00
今日巴尔地摩队与往日巴尔地摩队的纠葛
作者: x147159357 (Solomon)   2011-08-30 02:17:00
一堆酸民某迷,可以看完整篇文章吗?别人要准备举办悼念
作者: x147159357 (Solomon)   2011-08-30 02:18:00
会,洋基还抱怨东抱怨西,自己又不是主场。还有人说四
作者: x147159357 (Solomon)   2011-08-30 02:19:00
月跟八月赛程不一样不能比,根本就是.....
作者: Fitzwilliam (Out of touch)   2011-08-30 02:19:00
这些人连死者是不是自杀配不配被尊敬都能鞭了
作者: kurt28   2011-08-30 08:30:00
感谢原PO跟wazowski
作者: coollonger (转角遇到旺~)   2011-08-30 12:28:00
先呛先爽
作者: supdude (TheMan)   2011-08-30 12:35:00
正常yankees 一堆whine babies

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