[闲聊] RiotPhroxzon:败者组不存在

楼主: diemomfish56 (死妈鱼56)   2024-02-12 03:47:14
https://twitter.com/RiotPhroxzon/status/1756511358571643286
Losers queue doesn't exist
败者组不存在
We're not intentionally putting bad players on your team to make you lose
more.
我们并没有故意将糟糕的玩家放在你的队伍中,让你输得更多。
(Even if we assumed that premise, wouldn't we want to give you good players
so you stop losing?)
(即使我们假设这个前提,我们难道不应该给你好玩家,让你停止输掉吗?)
For ranked, we match you on your rating and that's all. If you've won a lot
and start losing, it's because you're playing against better players and
aren't at that level anymore. It's not because we matched you with all the
inters and put all the smurfs on the enemy team.
对于排位赛,我们只是根据你的评分来匹配你。
如果你赢了很多局然后开始输掉,那是因为你正在和更好的玩家对战,
而你已经不在那个水平上了。
这不是因为我们把所有的肥料匹配到你的队伍中,而把所有的小号代打放在敌队中。
For 99.9% of people reading this, even if you think you're "playing
perfectly" and post a good KDA screenshot with the rest of your team
"inting", I promise you that if a good player reviews your games there's
100's of things that you could have done differently that could've changed
the trajectory of the game.
对于99.9%正在看这篇文章的人来说,即使你认为你“玩得完美”,
并发布了一张良好的KDA截图,显示你的队友都在“故意送头”,
我向你保证,如果一位优秀的玩家审查你的游戏,
你可能有数百种可以做出不同选择,进而改变游戏的走向。
Sure there are games where your teammates play poorly, that's just the nature
of a 5v5 game. In the long run, you're the only common factor and the only
one responsible for your rating is you. If you took an "unwinnable" game and
replayed it with any Challenger in your spot, it would probably result in a
win.
当然,有些游戏中你的队友表现不佳,这就是5v5游戏的本质。
从长远来看,你是唯一的共同因素,你的评分责任只有你自己。
如果你把一场“不可能获胜”的游戏重新进行,并让任何一位菁英代替你,
很有可能会导致胜利。
A good non-giving up attitude (see the top post on front page reddit rn), a
growth mindset, investing in a good coach/asking reputable people for advice
will help make your relationship with League a lot better. There are 5
potential giver-upperers on the enemy team and only 4 on yours. Don't make it
5.
拥有不放弃的良好态度(参见reddit前页的首篇文章)、思维模式的成长、
投入良好的训练/向高端玩家寻求建议,将有助于改善你与《英雄联盟》的关系。
敌队有5个潜在的放弃者,而你的队伍只有4个。不要让它成为5个。
I mainly wanted to make this post because in the process of helping people
debug their accounts, there's so many people who legitimately believe we're
putting them in loser's queue that it's driving me crazy.
我会发表这篇文章的主要原因,是因为在帮助玩家对他们的帐号除错的过程中,
有太多人真的相信我们把他们放在败者组中,这真的让我疯了。
Some observations from coaching over the last 12 years:
1. Most players play too conservatively with a lead. Playing on the edge to
draw pressure & waste the jungler's time, while not throwing is extremely
impactful.
- Playing for KDA, so you can post a screenshot of "doing well" while your
team feeds so you feel better is not going to help you get better.
2. Review every death. 95% of deaths are avoidable until you hit very high
ranks. Find the root cause of why you're dying; are you managing the wave
incorrectly and not getting a ward out for a common gank timing, are you
overcommitting to fights when they're respawning, are you flipping it to
crash a sidelane when an objective is spawning.
3. Play to your win condition, while identifying & disrupting theirs. Find
which lanes are volatile and most likely to carry the game from either side
and prioritize your resources there. If your top lane is some swingy matchup
and you get them ahead, they're gonna create so much pressure for you that
the game becomes very easy to navigate.
根据我过去12年来的指导经验的观察:
1.大多数玩家在领先时都表现得太保守了。
在边线上施加压力并浪费打野的时间,同时又不犯错,这样做非常具有影响力。
-为了KDA而打,这样你就能够发布“表现良好”的截图,
而你的队友却在被虐,这样做不会让你进步。
2.检讨每一次死亡,直到你达到非常高的排名之前,95%的死亡都是可以避免的。
找出你死亡的根本原因;
你是否没有正确地处理兵线,没有在常见的gank时机点放置视野,
当对方重生时是否打得过度激进,当地图物件即将出现时是否要反向推进边线。
3.根据你的胜利条件进行游戏,同时看穿并破坏对手的胜利条件。
找出哪些路线是情势不稳定的,最有可能从任一方突破赢得游戏的,
并在那里优先分配你的资源。
如果你的上路是一场容易倾斜的对局,而你把他们带领到领先地位,
他们将能够主宰这场游戏,使得游戏变得非常容易应对。
作者: lucifiel1618 (Lucifiel)   2024-02-12 03:59:00
瞎说什么大实话二"_"二
作者: MasterYee666 (RoyalJS)   2024-02-12 04:49:00
会相信有败者组的人建议别再折磨自己玩这游戏了
作者: roger2623900 (whitecrow)   2024-02-12 09:28:00
连败组的共同点就是有你XD
作者: GA2006165027 (GA2006165027)   2024-02-12 09:37:00
有吧,认识好几个精英都会输太多当天就不排了
作者: newtaiwanese (新台湾人文教基金会)   2024-02-12 10:11:00
如果真的有连胜连败组那高手为啥还能爬上去==难道他们打之前都拜拜一直求到连败组吗*连胜
作者: AdmiralAdudu (嘟嘟噜都大都督)   2024-02-12 13:02:00
实话没人爱听 继续自慰都是they的错你会遇到挂机戳仔 难道对面就不会吗
作者: frostdumplng (冷冻水饺)   2024-02-12 13:23:00
确实 有熊哥哥肯定能赢
作者: david8840505 (DAVIDWEI)   2024-02-12 14:03:00
看这里留言就知道没几个有在打游戏
作者: z07535755951 (葬影)   2024-02-12 14:51:00
请PCS职业选手检讨一下 有没有在比赛时做到以上目标
作者: obeytherules (蓝菇菇王)   2024-02-12 17:18:00
单双本来就是这样 长期就是实力游戏有几个版本上路几乎无关胜败就是了

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