Re: [闲聊] 希格斯的技术性引爆

楼主: fkc (Mr. 男子汉)   2017-01-18 14:43:56
这个礼拜没看到什么相关的讨论
而Meddler大约两个礼拜前在官网发表的这篇
《Current Thoughts on Marksmen 》 https://goo.gl/3xtkR2
以下是部分内容的节录:
We’ve seen quite a bit of feedback that marksmen feel weak in bot lane,
lacking power and agency. Thoughts on that below, along with some things we
need to look into further.
团队已经收到许多人表示,近期下路射手感到软弱、无力、缺乏影响能力......
决定开始着手处理以下几个方向:
We believe that the biggest priority right now is addressing jungler
dominance, with junglers able to gank more often, and more successfully, than
appropriate. Bot lane’s particularly targeted by those ganks and we think
that’s a significant part of current frustration with marksman agency/power.
-> We’ll need to reduce jungler power beyond just the XP tweaking in 7.1.
Not sure how exactly yet (working on that this week and next).
下路射手会过得这么悲惨的原因是由于打野(junglers)过太爽了
因为打野的影响力提升,可以频繁/有效的Gank下路,导致下路难受想哭。
所以要降低野区的经验值。
Courage of the Colossus is still too strong. That contributes to some
characters feeling unkillable for marksmen. Some of those champs are also too
strong in general as well (hi Poppy).
-> We’ll be nerfing Courage of the Colossus. Investigating right now whether
that’ll be nerfs to the best case scenarios primarily or more general nerfs.
再来就是巨人勇气太OP了,射手射到手软好像都射不死
有些英雄更是过强了(波比)
所以要削弱巨人勇气。
At least a couple of individual marksmen need buffs. Lucian’s the biggest
example by a large margin, having been hit really hard by the pre-season
changes.
-> We’ve got Lucian and Draven buffs in 7.1 and are assessing other
candidates for 7.2 or 7.3 (e.g. potentially Ashe).
AD的调整部分,7.1改了路西恩跟达瑞文,7.2、7.3可能会艾希。
We’d like to support non Marksmen as options bot lane if the gameplay
created is healthy. We’ve long felt it would be good for the game for a
variety of lane setups to be viable and the farming position bot lane’s been
a particularly static one. Right now Ziggs is the only non marksman getting
played there a meaningful amount (around the same play rate as Corki and
Tristana). So far his impact on the lane seems reasonable, with a range of
ways to respond to it and an appropriate power level.
-> We’ll be keeping a really close eye on Ziggs bot lane. Assuming it stays
healthy and interesting it’s something we’d want to support if it looks
like a viable thing.
团队对于下路希格斯是持正向态度的
毕竟下路的角色类型配置(射手+辅助)维持很长一段时间,
发生改变都是好的,只要游戏是呈现健平衡/有趣的方式发展
会持续密切观察希格斯下路。
We want marksmen to be excellent choices bot lane. We’d like to see other
classes there at least a bit, but don’t want to see them push marksman out
or overshadow them at their core strengths. If they’re not really effective
picks bot lane that’s something we’ll address quickly.
团队还是希望射手是下路的好选择;也希望更多英雄都能出现在下路
But 人生中就是会多了这么一个 But
团队不希望射手从下路被移除
倘若真的发生的话,会尽速去修复这个问题。
Some other things we’re looking at:
General power level and agency of all positions in the game, bot in
particular (both marksman and support).
Whether marksmen power curves are appropriately tuned (e.g. Should we offer
more mid game power rather than late game power for some champs/builds?)
Whether we’re offering the appropriate tools to kill really tanky champs as
a marksmen, something that should generally be a strength relative to other
classes.
What sort of changes we might need to make to the item system to reduce tanky
champions from getting too much damage or some damaging champions from
getting too tanky to deal with for their damage.
其他团队运作的方向:
1. 调整角色的成长曲线,加强射手+辅助于游戏中期的能力
2. 给射手提供干掉坦克的工具
3. 改善道具,让坦克角的伤害不要这么高、让伤害角坦度不要么高
结论
R社把射手的悲情处境归咎于 1)打野过太爽了,2)巨人勇气太OP
前者罪该万死,后者导致团战中射手心里苦
所以先砍将狗这他妈的小王八蛋,其他路先削个巨人勇气再看看。(刺客欢呼!)
射手本身的调整,先给两只角色/装备Buff,谢主隆恩。
而那些真心觉得下路希格斯很难对线的射手
R社目前态度很明显"Learn to play,plz."
甚至希望更多妖魔鬼怪会开始进驻下路(直到射手绝种之前......)
个人想法
10Ban也许可以舒缓SOLO/FLEX QUEUE下路AD被各种蹂躏的处境......吧
再者,照R社的逻辑,双人线因为经验分享而等级过低
导致中期影响力不足、被其他路强灌导致崩线
其实改动双人路的经验分配,或者改一个经验值天赋就好了
希格斯再去动技能,OP.GG的头像可能也要被上缎带了
‘啊......这废文又浪费你两分钟的人生了吗?’
‘赚、赚、赚’
_(°ω°」 ∠)_
作者: kuojames2580 (干干干干干)   2017-01-18 14:48:00
将狗最好砍到跟s2一样惨 将狗就是欠砍
作者: nightryss437 (青青)   2017-01-18 15:59:00
因为比赛经济会留给AD,打坦才打得动,SOLOQ谁管你

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