※ 引述《OPPOPOP (剪一段日光)》之铭言：
: 1. This is stupid, Westdoor is just too good for a shitty region, he's no bette
: than anyone after him.
: 太蠢惹 他只是在鸟地方称霸 根本没比那些在他后面的人强
: 2.I honestly don't even know what to say.............
: 老实说我惊讶到不知该说啥了
: 3.OK. Now I'm convinced they're intentionally doing this to rile people up. In other words, we're being trolled.
: ok 我现在相信官方排这些名次是故意激怒人了 换句话说 我们被troll了
: 4.Not sure if they're still pretending it's a serious top20?
: 有些不确定是否官方假装这是认真的top20 ?
: 5.Westdoor at 12? Really? LOL
: 西门排12 真的? lol
: 6.Is this for real? This is the most biased list I've seen in my entire life. How can you justify players doing good on their team in the worst regions? I'm so fucking done with this list.
: 这是认真的吗 这是我一生忠看过最偏颇的名单
: 你怎么能用一个在最糟地区的优良选手表现去做判定
: 7.I actually choked on my snakcs when I read the title xD
: 我看到标题写说西门排12的时候吃东西吃到一半呛到了
: 8.Honestly, Rito should just stop this countdown, its getting embarrassing.
: 老实说 rito应该停止继续公布 这名单让人有些害臊
: 9.Westdoor shouldnt ever be above Ziv. Ziv been carrying his ass all season.
: 西门根本不该排在ziv前面 ziv carry了一整季
: 10.I can't wait for the tasty stupidity of the next rankings. I thought last year's rankings were bad but this is already next level shit.
: 我已经等不及要看下一个愚蠢的排名了 我认为去年已经排的很糟但今年还更烂
: 11.Is this list turning into a joke or are they still serious?
: 这名单是在开玩笑还是认真的?
: 12.What the fuck? This is getting insane.
: WTF 疯了吗
: 13.Think this is legitimately the first time I've ever "Laughed out loud"
: Let's put Westdoor. Ahead of...Ssumday. OF COURSE! Bhahahaha Riot Esports is so bad....
: 我大笑了 把西门排在恩...Ssumday前面 HAHAHA riot排的真烂
: 14.Best joke of the day. Everyone knows that Westdoor champ pool is a joke. He only knows fizz, tf and zed.
: 本日最好笑 全世界都知道西门的英雄池浅到不行 只会飞斯 逆命 劫
: 15.THIS LIST IS FUCKING RETARDED
: 这名单有够智障
: 16.This list loses all creditably. LMS is pure trash same level as wildcards. LOL
: 这名单一点可信度都没 LMS垃圾的跟外卡差不多
: 17.Westdoor over Ssumday and Piccaboo... Westdoor isn't even close to the best fucking player on his team!
: 西门排在Ssumday and Piccaboo前面???? 他根本不是AHQ最强的一点
: 18.This is retarded.
: 有够低能
: 19.what the...i honestly laughed out loud :'D
: neither me, nor any of my friends, nor monte or thorin had bjergsen on the list.
: when he appeared as no.15, i was like...meh. whatever. it's riot.
: but westdoor is even higher? like...what?!
: bjerg didn't make my top 20 but seriously...westdoor 3 ranks above bjerg is
: even more ridiculous.
: 我必须老实说我大笑了
: 包括我 我的朋友 monte or thorin 都没把鼻尔森排在前20
: 当他出现在第15时 我觉得 恩..随便拉 反正是RITO
: 但当西门排在更前面时 WHAT??? 太荒谬了
: 20.Come on guys, even talking just about mid lane, Bjergsen is better than
: him.
: 拜托 即使只看中路 鼻尔森也比他强
: 21.I feel like lolesport is just trolling us. This cant be serious
: 我感觉官方在TROLL我们 这不可能是真的
: 22.westdoor isnt even the 12th best mid
: 西门甚至不是世界前12中路..
: 23.Westdoor isn't better than anyone above or below him on this list. No way
: he belongs on a top 20 list.
: 西门没有比名单上排在他后面那些人要强 他根本不该上榜
: 24.Ever since MSI basically every LMS expert I follow has been vehement about
: saying that AHQ is not the Westdoor party and Ziv and An are better than him
: 自从MSI后 我看到的每个专家说法都是AHQ不适西门的队伍 ZIV跟小安都比他强
: 25.Skillwise in AHQ it's Ziv>An>Mountain=Westdoor>Albis. Westdoor is almost
: never a reason why AHQ wins games lol
: 技巧方面 Ziv>An>Mountain=Westdoor>Albis 西门并不是他们获胜的原因
: 26.So with 11 players left, that means at least 6 players from this list are
: about to get shafted:
: Faker Imp Acorn KaKao GodV Rookie Smeb GorillA Meiko Deft Pawn Clearlove PYL
: Bengi Pray Febiven
: Wow.
: 所以剩下11个名额
: 这表示Faker Imp Acorn KaKao GodV Rookie Smeb GorillA Meiko Deft Pawn
: Clearlove PYL Bengi Pray Febiven 里面会有六个被踢掉 WOW
: >>I put money on them saying GodV isn't top20... I mean the whole list has
: been such a joke already they may aswell keep it going
: 我打赌韦神不会进前20 因为这份名单就是个笑话
其实真的不用太火大，这些都是很正常的
每个区域都有自己的bias(就跟我们S4的时候很像)
reddit上对LMS的认同已经比之前好非常多了
他们对LMS的认知大概多数都是从Clement在SI里面得知比较多
所以才会有这么多Ziv>Westdoor，但其实他们根本上不看LMS
多是听来的(我不是指Ziv>westdoor这件事不合理，而是指他们是听来的)
基本上Clement在SI里面谈的，如大家高估ahq，低估闪电狼
所以你也会看到reddit乡民自认了解LMS的乡民开始持这种论调
是一个复制贴上的过程
我猜Clement的意思可能比较接近，ahq这个队伍状况其实很谜，团练情形也很浮动
大赛常常爆气，ahq强，但也让人比较缺乏信心去说他们真的打出来的成绩会不会很好
(他对B组的预测我记得是Fnatic第一，ahq第二，IG强但不太稳定，
尤其季后赛表现有不少是QG做了太多风险过高的play，当然这个预测可能也有一些LMS
的bias在里面，我就蛮肯定中国人一定会不爽clement这样预测，就跟我们看欧美预测
Fnatic>>>>ahq一样，不过说到底谁没有bias呢)
但反过来FW的选手很稳定，团练的成绩也比较让人信服，觉得他们在A组很有机会
打赢CLG(我记得他觉得Xmithie没有非常强，更别说huhi，Karsa比起来强很多)
另外Clement觉得KR的soloq分数是一个评估队伍状态的指标(不是完全，但还蛮准)
反正大家都一样啦，没打之前裤子松紧有差，但都是一只手抓着自己的
另一只手想着去脱别人的，现在没比赛，有战点有热度囉，剩下五天
只能期待台湾队加油，我们的裤子不是第一个被脱掉的，当然如果可以
希望能够穿着裤子到最后
ps.SI我跳着看的，而且听力也普普，如果对Clement评论引述有错误，烦请更正QQQQQQ
我一有时间就会修改