[外絮] Jatt对C9 Balls KR soloq评价推特合战

楼主: edwdada (Ravior)   2015-09-14 18:22:23
原编辑者: MadlyChemical
原Reddit串:https://goo.gl/7nWeHg
Jatt:
https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643277527994101760
Huni: 375 LP Masters in 115 games
Balls: D2 84 LP in 192 games
There's more to life than solo Q, but this is a worrying trend for C9.
Huni: 115场就打上大师375分
Balls: 192场还卡钻二
Soloq不代表全部,但这是C9的一个隐忧
Sneaky:
https://twitter.com/C9Sneaky/status/643278768753082368
@RiotJatt why are u picking on balls ? I'm pretty sure there's more than just
him in diamond 2.
https://twitter.com/C9Sneaky/status/643279209935212544
@RiotJatt bjergsen, turtle, aphro, xmithie
你为什么要针对球球,我很肯定他绝对比钻二还强
比尔森,龟龟,阿佛摸跟非常不幸也没打很高阿
Jatt:
https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643279379347279872
@C9Sneaky Not trying to pick on anyone, I feel like currently he's an
outlier. http://www.trackingthepros.com/bootcamp?hide=true
https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643279606389207040
@C9Sneaky Balls has 80+ more games than anyone else in D2. It's not personal.
I hope to see C9 do well at worlds
https://twitter.com/RiotJatt/status/643280091389161472
@C9Sneaky Also Bjergsen, Turtle, Aphro, and xmithie have not demoted from D1
to D2 on multiple occasions.
我没有针对谁,只是觉得目前他不在同一个等级上
我希望C9在世界赛上表现得很好,还有鼻尔森,龟龟,阿佛摸跟非常不幸
并没有从钻一掉到钻二好几次
sOAZ:
https://twitter.com/sOAZIZGOOD/status/643281207879270400
@RiotJatt how does this even matter ? darien and genja never played soloq in
their life. soloq is completely different than competitive
这到底有什么关系?达理安跟蔗皇从来就没有打过soloq,soloq跟比赛是完全不同的东西
SaintVicious:
https://twitter.com/LolStvicious/status/643281664194560000
@sOAZIZGOOD @RiotJatt alright Jatt ima draw the line here, questioning
someones solo q ranking is pretty stupid
好了,jatt,到这里为止了,质疑一个人的soloq成绩是非常蠢的
Hauntzer:
https://twitter.com/lolHauntzer/status/643282665227948032
@LolStvicious @sOAZIZGOOD @RiotJatt If soloq determined how well you did in
competitive then I'd be the worst top in lcs
如果soloq表示你在比赛会打得多好的话,我就会是LCS最差的选手了(GV上路)
Amazing:
https://twitter.com/Amazing_EU/status/643282767766155268
@RiotJatt @C9Sneaky Why do you even bring up soloQ rating in order to
estimate someone's skill? It just fuels potential shit coming his way
你为什么要用soloq来评价一个人的技巧?这只是在引起观众战balls而已。
Sheep:
https://twitter.com/C9Sheep/status/643284365154361345
@LolStvicious @sOAZIZGOOD @RiotJatt wolf has been master tier like 90% of
this season and he has a negative win rate on every support
EDIT: Format
EDIT 2: Added Haunzter and Amazing
EDIT 3: Added C9 Sheep
EDIT 4: Aaaand Jatt's Twitlonger is up
Calling out Balls for his solo Q performance was in bad form. I think there
is value in data, but a single data point doesn’t paint an accurate or fair
picture.
I’ve reached out to C9 and apologized, and I wish them the best as they
prepare for worlds.
Wolf这一季几乎90%的时间都在大师,而他所有的角色胜率都不太好
用soloq的成绩去说Ball的状态不佳,我觉得资料有它的价值,但单一的资料不能准确
或公正的看出实际情况。
我跟C9接触也致歉,而我希望他们在世界赛准备得很好。
EDIT 5:
Monte:
https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643356898016804864
I don't think @riotjatt did anything wrong accounting for all factors in his
discussion of Balls. Pros may not like it, but it's his job.
https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643357262539530240
In my opinion, Balls' professional play has been sub-par this year and it's
worth at least considering his solo queue performance.
https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643358088314097664
Pros will never like it when analysts discuss flaws in their play. Fact is,
however, not everyone can be the best.
https://twitter.com/RNGMonteCristo/status/643358992954228736
I think pros should spend less time arguing with analysts on Twitter and just
prove to us they're good at Worlds.
汇集所有因素去讨论Ball,我不觉得这件事上Jatt有做错什么,只是职业选手不喜欢
,但这是Jatt的工作。
我是觉得Balls今年的职业表现低于水准,而这至少值得让我们去考虑他的soloq表现
但职业选手绝对不会喜欢分析师谈论他们的缺点,然而事实是
没有任何人可以是完美的。
我觉得职业选手应该花少点时间在推特上战分析师,然后在世界赛上证明自己。
EDIT 6: God these just keep coming, don't they...
FORG1VEN:
https://twitter.com/FORG1VENGRE/status/643358150196883456
@RiotJatt @MarcelFeldkamp @LolStvicious if soloq is not a good indicative of
a 'current' level of a player then we shouldnt play!!!
如果Soloq不是一个良好的指标去衡量一个选手的目前水准,那我们都不该打soloq!
Dexter:
https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/643303962532257792
@RiotJatt Presenting the data itself was fine, just the phrasing you used
seemed to be completely off. Analysing is your job afterall.
https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/643305348158365700
@RiotJatt Presenting the data itself was fine, just the phrasing you used
seemed to be completely off. Analysing is your job afterall.
https://twitter.com/MarcelFeldkamp/status/643305348158365700
@LolStvicious @RiotJatt Soloqueue has been completely shit anyways for 2
straight seasons. I dont give a fuck anymore if botlane goes 0-20
呈现资料是没问题的,只是你引申的东西完全离题了,不过毕竟分析是你的工作
soloq在这两季以来完全就只是屎罢了,当下路爆线时我完全不在乎了。
@LolStvicious @RiotJatt Soloqueue in both NA and EU is a complete clown
fiesta, nothing to add
NA和EU的soloq只是闹剧罢了,没什么好讲的
Febiven: (lol)
https://twitter.com/FnaticFebiven/status/643375848490295296
soloq is just luck zzzzzzz
soloq就是狗屎运啦 zzzzzzz
作者: julianscorpi (各打五十大板流 免许皆传)   2015-09-14 18:35:00
全串最中肯职业选手:Forgiven,其他NA抱团取暖的选手也不想想你们的烂是整个区域的烂
作者: grosschemman (指喻)   2015-09-14 18:37:00
Jatt的意思感觉像是100场钻二根1000场钻二差很多
作者: jeffery95099 (哈哈肥宅哈哈)   2015-09-14 18:39:00
Balls 以前不是很强吗
作者: grosschemman (指喻)   2015-09-14 18:48:00
EU>>NA 无误op.gg看了一下DL50/26钻一 高端和低端(Balls)的差别补一下Sneaky提到的aphromoo韩服id:aphro 48/32跟192场卡钻二 真的差很多@rain zion韩服id是啥??
作者: money1992922 (阿哭哪妈踏踏)   2015-09-14 19:21:00
ahq牌位哪里猛?我只知道西门有菁英
作者: Predrag26671 (这个人非常懒)   2015-09-14 19:26:00
欧美有多玻璃心...讨论个SOLO都怕成这样
作者: grosschemman (指喻)   2015-09-14 19:28:00
FNC MID/AD/TOP 胜率都很恶心
作者: sam601sam601 (Frame)   2015-09-14 22:42:00
还在IEM

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