[外电]湖人队如何能重新签下破茧而出的 Monk

楼主: glen (哈棒波特5-棒棒堂的密令)   2022-02-08 22:31:33
其实 Monk 的薪资问题王桑前面有发过文
https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Lakers/M.1641378364.A.96A.html
这篇外电则是湖人有可能留下 Monk 的世界线
https://tinyurl.com/2p8wawba
How the Lakers can afford to re-sign Malik Monk after his breakout season
The Lakers would need some help from Monk to keep the young guard in Los
Angeles
湖人队如何能重新签下破茧而出的 Malik Monk
湖人队需要这位年轻的后卫 Malik Monk 留在洛杉矶
Monk signed only a one-year contract with the Lakers last summer. When a
player becomes a free agent after only one year with a team, that team only
gains Non-Bird Rights on that player. Those rights allow the team to go above
the cap to re-sign that player, but only to give him a 20 percent raise. Most
players are happy to earn a 20 percent raise… but a 20 percent raise on the
minimum is, well, minimal. Monk isn't even making $1.8 million this season.
He's not going to stay in Los Angeles for the roughly $2.15 million those
Non-Bird Rights can get him. Teams are going to offer him several times more.
Monk 去年夏天与湖人队签了一年的底薪合约。当一名球员在一支球队效力一年后成为自
由球员时,该球队只能获得该球员的非鸟权利。 这允许球队超过薪资上限重新签下这名
球员,但只能给他20%的加薪。 大多数球员都乐于获得 20% 的加薪……但最低 20% 的加
薪是~嗯~微不足道的。 Monk 本赛季甚至没有赚到180万美元。他不会为了那些非鸟权利
可以得到他的大约 215 万美元而留在洛杉矶。其他球队将为他提供数倍的报价。
So how can the Lakers retain Monk? In a perfect world, they'd like to get his
full Bird Rights. When a team has full Bird Rights on a player, they can pay
him anything up to the max to stay with him. It takes three years to build
those rights, though, and keeping Monk in-house that long when he'll receive
more lucrative offers in the process seems relatively unlikely. Fortunately,
there's a possible compromise here.
那么湖人队如何才能留住 Monk 呢?完美的预想状况是湖人想得到他的完整鸟权。当一支
球队对一名球员拥有完整的早鸟权时,他们可以向他支付最高金额的任何薪资以留住球员
。不过建立完整鸟权需要三年时间,而且让 Monk 在球队待那么久,这样他就会在这个过
程中收到更有利的薪资报价,这相似乎不太实际,但幸运的是有一个妥协的可能性。
If the Lakers can keep Monk in the building for one more season, they'll gain
his Early Bird Rights, a middle ground between the Non-Bird Rights they'll
have and the full Bird Rights they'd want. Early Bird Rights allow a team to
re-sign a player for 105 percent of the average player salary—the figure
used to determine the non-taxpayer mid-level exception. Such a deal would pay
Monk something in the neighborhood of $50 million over four years. Perhaps
more if the cap projections are optimistic.
如果湖人队可以让 Monk 在湖人里再待一个赛季,他们将获得他的早鸟权,这是他们将拥
有的非鸟权和他们想要的完整鸟权之间的中间地带。早鸟权允许球队以球员平均薪资的
105%重新签下球员—也就是全额中产。这样的合约将在四年内让 Monk 取得5000万美元的
收入,如果薪资上限预测乐观也许会更多。
That sort of contract is far closer to Monk's true value than the minimum,
but how can the Lakers compel Monk to wait an extra year in Los Angeles to
get the necessary Early Bird Rights? The only feasible answer right now would
be the taxpayer mid-level exception. The Lakers could, in theory, sign Monk
to a two-year deal worth roughly $13 million using that exception. The second
season would include a player-option, giving Monk the freedom to either
opt-out and test free agency (hopefully re-signing with the Lakers using that
Early Bird Exception), or, if things go poorly next season, opt-in and try
again with the knowledge that he would have Full Bird Rights with the Lakers
after that.
这种合约比底薪更接近 Monk 的真正价值,但湖人队怎么能强迫 Monk 在湖人多等一年才
能获得必要的早鸟权呢?目前唯一可行的答案是小中产(6M)。 理论上,湖人队可以利用
小中产与蒙克签下一份价值约1300万美元的两年合约。第二个赛季将包括一个球员选项,
让蒙克可以放弃球员选项进入自由球员市场(希望使用早鸟条款与湖人队重新签约),或
者如果下赛季情况不理想, Monk 可以捡起选择球员选项再打一年,因为他知道在那之后
他将在湖人队拥有完整的鸟权。
Is this going to be enough to retain Monk? That's hard to say. Fortunately
for the Lakers, very few teams are going to have meaningful cap space this
offseason. Detroit, San Antonio and Orlando are the three teams likely to
have real space, but all three have invested in multiple young guards over
the past few years. None appear especially likely to pursue Monk. A more
present threat would be some team offering Monk the non-taxpayer mid-level
exception. A bigger group of teams should have access to that exception if
they want it, and taking such an offer could guarantee Monk something like
$45 million over four years.
这足以留住 Monk 吗?这很难说。对湖人队来说幸运的是,很少球队会在这个休赛期拥有
有用的的薪资空间。底特律、圣安东尼奥和奥兰多是可能拥有真正空间的三支球队,但在
过去的几年里,这三支球队都投资了多名年轻后卫。似乎没有人特别有可能追求 Monk
。 一个更现实的威胁将是其他队伍向 Monk 提供全额中产。如果他们愿意,更多的队伍
应该可以使用全额中产,并且接受这样的合约可以保证 Monk 在四年内获得大约4500万美
元。
That's life-changing money, and Monk hasn't gotten a big contract yet. If his
priority this offseason is to maximize earnings above all else, the Lakers
are probably out of luck. If he's happy in Los Angeles and wants to wear the
purple and gold for the long haul, though, he has a path to doing so if he's
patient. It's hardly an unprecedented path either. Bobby Portis took a very
similar route to remain with the Milwaukee Bucks this offseason. Nic Batum
took his Non-Bird 20 percent raise to stay with the Clippers, but like
Portis, he'll have the chance to cash in on an Early Bird deal in the
offseason. As an added bonus, players waiting for Early Bird Rights in this
way have the right to veto trades for a year.
这是会让 Monk 带来大量收入的薪水,而 Monk 还没有得到一份大合约。如果他在休赛期
的首要任务是最大化收益高于一切,那么湖人队可能就不走运了。不过如果他在洛杉矶过
得很开心,并且想长期穿紫金战袍,那么如果他有耐心,他就有办法做到这一点。 这也
不是一条无前例的道路。Bobby Portis 采取了非常相似的方式,在这个休赛期留在了密
尔沃基公鹿队。Nic Batum 将他的非鸟加薪20%留在快艇队,但和 Portis 一样,他将有
机会在休赛期通过早鸟合约。作为额外的奖励,以这种方式等待早鸟权的球员在一年内有
交易否决权。
But if someone offers Monk the full non-taxpayer mid-level exception, the
Lakers will have almost no recourse to match that offer. So long as LeBron
James and Anthony Davis remain on the roster, it would be impractical for
them to operate below the salary cap even if they could trade Russell
Westbrook away and create the necessary space. One long shot that would be
more trouble than it's worth would be to convince Westbrook to opt-out of his
contract and re-sign a longer-term extension with a lower salary next season.
If his cap number dips low enough, the Lakers could potentially create enough
flexibility to use the heftier non-taxpayer mid-level exception themselves
and offer Monk that same deal in the $45 million range right away. This, of
course, would be a bad idea because it would mean committing multiple seasons
to Westbrook.
但如果有人向 Monk 提供全额中产,湖人队几乎无计可施。 只要 LeBron James 和
Anthony Davis 留在阵容里,即使他们可以交易 Russell Westbrook 并创造必要的薪资
空间,他们面对薪资上限也动弹不得。 说服 Russell Westbrook 选择换约并在下个赛季
以较低的薪水重新签下一份更长期的续约,这将比它的价值更麻烦。 如果他的薪资数字
够低,湖人队可能会创造足够的薪资空间灵活性来自己使用更重要的全额中产,并立即以
4年/4500万美元的向蒙克提供全额中产。 当然,这不是一个好主意,因为这意味着要让
Westbrook 在湖人待更久。
In the end, that is going to put the ball in Monk's court. If he wants to be
a Laker, there is a way for him to stay put and position himself for a fair
contract down the line. He'd just have to be patient enough to wait out that
extra year in order to get it.
最后这取决于 Monk 真正的想法。 如果他想长留湖人并为为自己安排一份公平的合约。
他需要有足够的耐心等待额外的一年才能实现。
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:32:00
其实6M不一定留不住我是这样认为的,就只有6M但不代表留不住
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:34:00
我是觉得要打出竞争力,如果还是鸟战绩,当然免谈可以冲到二轮或西决以上,Monk可能就愿意留了
楼主: glen (哈棒波特5-棒棒堂的密令)   2022-02-08 22:36:00
说服方式这取决于现在湖人管理层的脑子 这点才让人担忧...
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:36:00
因为他现在去别队顶多也10M出头,但打到夺冠身价就上去
作者: bemjamen123 (steven)   2022-02-08 22:36:00
题外话 塞尔提克的JR是何方神圣?
作者: ken720331 (肯)   2022-02-08 22:37:00
MONK来湖人这边修好缺点真的不错
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:37:00
了,那若湖人很有竞争力,他那么年轻很可能想拼一次冠军
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:37:00
应该说就是全额中产10M,甚至可能只拿部份8M之类Monk没有好到值得用薪资空间签他
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:38:00
NBA球员有个冠军加持,身价就有差了
作者: Addressg (吉小米)   2022-02-08 22:38:00
看他有多爱湖人,但大部份会想拼大约吧(差太多钱了啦!)
作者: sodistrues (true)   2022-02-08 22:39:00
继续保持好表现 别队一定抢
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:40:00
他如果之后冠军加身冲到15~20M,牺牲一年拿6M也还好
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:41:00
他不一定拿到的10M以上,今年有空间的球队不多10M跟6M其实没有差很多,表现机会有差
楼主: glen (哈棒波特5-棒棒堂的密令)   2022-02-08 22:41:00
Josh Richardson是热火选秀培养几年之后交易到塞尔提克的吧
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:42:00
如果是20M跟6M当然留不住,但10M跟6M我觉得有机会后来交易到小牛?
楼主: glen (哈棒波特5-棒棒堂的密令)   2022-02-08 22:42:00
这只赛队球迷才知道实际状况XD
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:42:00
所以当务之急就是赶快拿龟加首轮换墙,然后冲到前六27首轮就能选到Monk吗?我是觉得还不容易
楼主: glen (哈棒波特5-棒棒堂的密令)   2022-02-08 22:44:00
如果20M那真的很看好 因为这是不错的年轻锋线长约的价码
作者: X41822N (Nova)   2022-02-08 22:44:00
在我湖能跟他竞争位置的都是一年约老将,留下来吧
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:44:00
但Monk只有这一季可能被认为是flurk有空间的球队拿20M去砸Monk我觉得不太可能
作者: ken720331 (肯)   2022-02-08 22:45:00
monk还没证明自己可以到20M
作者: dickenst35 (阿煒)   2022-02-08 22:45:00
Monk是在我湖找到了使用说明书,但不觉得会有球队花1~2千万来挖。
作者: X41822N (Nova)   2022-02-08 22:46:00
觉得monk进攻没问题,但防守身材是硬伤,这几场对比季初的防守已经好很多,但应该不至于有球队会开20m给他吧
作者: ken720331 (肯)   2022-02-08 22:47:00
10M顶多13或是15 除非他变成curry
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:47:00
所以6M真的可以试试看,他再一季打得好别队开20M的机会也更大
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:47:00
而且Monk跟AD搭配超好,又很年轻
作者: okamifang (列翼翔士冈美)   2022-02-08 22:48:00
一旦不是拿底薪,就会变成万用包,Monk应该不是傻的
楼主: glen (哈棒波特5-棒棒堂的密令)   2022-02-08 22:48:00
如果是会谈约的球队 够厉害的会跟他签2Y/2400万 这可攻可守
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:48:00
AD如果看到我湖连Monk都走了 LBJ退休 他还会想留吗?这样的湖人比鹈鹕还惨
作者: OsmanGo (Osman)   2022-02-08 22:49:00
1+1 13M感觉也不是不可能 其实现在成绩跟去年Nunn也差不多 Nunn就是签一样的合约
作者: Tain02 (田侨仔)   2022-02-08 22:49:00
这时候看龟的4400就觉得头很痛
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:50:00
13M的问题跟12M一样,需要薪资空间XD
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:50:00
湖人如果0轮游 换做我就选2Y/2400万
作者: OsmanGo (Osman)   2022-02-08 22:50:00
老詹如果走人 那可能直接考虑卖AD重建比较实际
作者: OsmanGo (Osman)   2022-02-08 22:51:00
我是指两年13m 1+1的合约 内文也有写
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 22:51:00
喔喔1+1了解那就是全额早鸟
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:51:00
以球员的角度待烂队别人也会怀疑你的实力
作者: LBJKO   2022-02-08 22:52:00
JR是先在小独过水后 被交易到青赛的
作者: OsmanGo (Osman)   2022-02-08 22:52:00
Monk未必能在外面找到全额中产的报价 如果只有7-8m的报价 那降一点点留湖人也是很合理
作者: lon0623 (broaden)   2022-02-08 22:53:00
就像国王队的球员也会掉价一样
作者: LBJKO   2022-02-08 22:53:00
他是有D没有外线的后卫 你可以想做Sg 版本的SJ
作者: OsmanGo (Osman)   2022-02-08 22:53:00
Monk现在磨合的好 但他防守的问题还是在
作者: lopopo001 (水水)   2022-02-08 23:43:00
外面球队一定会给他四年约 别做梦了
作者: TheoEpstein (Cubs)   2022-02-08 23:51:00
四年多少讲看看XD2022年没有什么球队有薪资空间的
作者: sshow0904 (sshow0904)   2022-02-09 00:02:00
一定要想办法留住,湖人的镁光灯也可以让他场外收入更高。而且未来跟AD是湖人重要的蓝图
作者: NuRaymond (天兵雷门)   2022-02-09 01:19:00
不相信monk(X)不相信湖人高层的脑(O)
作者: lwei781 (nap til morning?)   2022-02-09 04:41:00
要6M 留Monk, Vogel 可能要同捆全额小中产是一定要给 1+1 或 2+1
作者: jjoonnyy (jojo)   2022-02-09 09:12:00
去年的harris/MB这种射手 公道价是1500~2000万monk今年持续表现 大概会拿到中产以上的薪资但大概是3年4500左右的价格 长约现在很少球队愿意开
作者: rfvtgb (........)   2022-02-09 10:17:00
Monk6-3非控卫 加上过往给人少根筋的感觉 一定会被质疑是否只是一年行情 所以我也认为他拿到全额中产机会最高 要用薪资空间的球队 太多球员顺位在他前面了我们大概可以用小中产+保证先发 这大概是我们的极限

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