[外絮] Greg: Lin与西南组五队

楼主: Landius (原来我是漆原派啊)   2016-05-17 00:34:57
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Jeremy Lin & Southwest Division: San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks,
Memphis Grizzlies, Houston Rockets & New Orleans Pelicans as Potential
Landing Spots
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Posted on 15 May, 2016, by Greg in NBA
After a pretty long weekend, we're back on our offseason series of trying
to figure out which teams might be good landing spots for Jeremy Lin next
season, if he leaves the Charlotte Hornets. Up next: The Southwest division,
with the San Antonio Spurs, Dallas Mavericks, Memphis Grizzlies, Houston
Rockets and the New Orleans Pelicans under the magnifying glass.
经过了个很长的周末,我们来看如果Lin离开夏洛特黄蜂,有哪些队伍会是好的下一队
接着检视西南组的5个球队: 马刺/小牛/灰熊/火箭/鹈鹕.
Four of the teams on this list made the playoffs this season and usually
have in recent years. Most of them have a lot of questions regarding the
point guard position heading into the summer of 2016, but it doesn't mean
they all fit.
这个球季西南组里有4队打入季后赛,这些球队近年也是季后赛常客.
虽然这几队的控球后卫都有些问题,但这不代表这些队伍都适合Lin.
We'll begin with the simple one – Rockets. Lin played in Houston for two
years, and the Rockets have Patrick Beverley as the only point guard
signed for next season. A player Lin is better than on offense by miles,
and just because he doesn't try to injure players on purpose doesn't make
him inferior defensively. But all that doesn't matter. The Rockets are a
solar system that revolves around the beard of James Harden. Lin should
look for life and a future elsewhere.
我们先从单纯的开始 - 火箭队.
Lin在这个球队打了两季,而Beverley则是下季火箭队唯一的控卫,
在进攻上,Beverley根本看不到Lin的车尾灯,
在防守上,Lin不走Beverley会弄伤敌队球员般的侵略性路线,也丝毫不比其逊色.
不过这些其实不是重点,火箭就像是太阳系般,围绕着Harden那丛胡子建构的球队,
林应该去其他队伍寻求更好的未来.
On to the Pelicans, who had a "disappointment waiting to happen" kind of
season, coming off making the playoffs in 2015, which only happened
because Kevin Durant was injured. The Pelicans have Jrue Holiday, who
when healthy is their starting point guard. Tyreke Evans, when healthy
(picking up on a theme here?), also loves having the ball. The bench is
pretty empty behind them, and Alvin Gentry is an interesting offensive
mind to work with. However, if the Pelicans don't move Holiday and Evans,
Lin probably will feel a little bit left out in terms of minutes and
possessions. He can probably do some very nice things with Anthony Davis.
接着是鹈鹕,也是本季让人最失望的球队其中之一,
曾经在去年KD受伤后,打进了季后赛.
鹈鹕的后场有只要健康就会先发担任控卫的Holiday,
以及只要健康(嗯...,这是鹈鹕的主题曲吗?)就会一球在手的Tyreke Evans,
在他们背后的板凳区目前是一场空,总教练Gentry也是拥有有趣进攻哲学的教练;
然而,如果鹈鹕不动这两名球员的话,Lin在鹈鹕的上场时间和地位可能会很尴尬,
纵使Lin和AD有可能产生出令人惊艳的化学效应.
Now to three teams that make a lot more sense. We begin with the Grizzlies,
who right now don't have a head coach, but will probably have one signed
by the time it's signing season. They have no point guard heading into
next season, and Mike Conley might be tempted to go elsewhere, hoping
someone offers him the max deal, which is a risk considering his injury
issues. Lin could find a very nice niche in Memphis, but there's a very
good chance the Grizzlies have stretched their window of contending to its
limit, and jumping onboard would mean playing for a team in a weird
transition phase. Lin's fit with whoever will be the coach is another issue
that needs some further review.
接下来的三队可能比较适合Lin也说不定.
先从灰熊说起,现在的灰熊没有总教练,有可能会在今夏另签新的总教练,
若Conley今夏离开灰熊寻求顶薪合约的话,但该队要承受其伤病史的情况下,
灰熊先发控卫的位置就会空出来了,这时候Lin去灰熊会占有一定的地位,
但由于灰熊近年主打的铁桶阵风格已经无法再更上一层楼,
Lin可能会在灰熊渡过一个诡异的转换期,
新任总教练是否是Lin理想的教练,这又是另一个问题.
The Dallas Mavericks looked like the team most likely to sign Lin last
season, at least for a moment or two. Deron Williams has a player option
for next season which he'll probably pick up, Devin Harris is still on the
team and J.J. Barea is also there. However, Lin is better than all three of
them. Williams has very little left in the tank, Barea is fun but you can't
really count on him besides an energy role and Harris usually harms the Mavs
more than he helps them. The Mavericks could make a very interesting place
for Lin to play in, but Mark Cuban hasn't done a great job of rebuilding
the Mavericks after the 2011 championship, and unless the Mavericks can get
rid of at least two of those contracts, they have too much money needlessly
eating cap space. In short: Lin would be very good in Dallas under Rick
Carlisle, but they have too many point guards right now as is.
小牛是去年最有可能签下Lin的球队.
Deron可能会继续执行他下季的球员选择权,而Harris和JJB一样会在队上,
Lin现在比前述3人更好,Deron状态下滑中,
JJB就只是一个充满能量的球员,Harris则是常常背刺队友.
小牛或许可以给Lin一个不错的位置,
但老板Cuban尚未完成其2011年夺冠后的重建大业,
在这几年花了太多不必要的钱导致可用的薪资空间变得很少.
简单来说,Lin可以在Carlisle底下发挥得不错,但现在小牛控卫实在太多了.
We finish with the Spurs, who are probably scratching their head, trying to
figure out how they lost to the Oklahoma City Thunder in the conference
semifinals. There are a number of reasons, but one of them is Manu Ginobili
looking and playing like someone who belongs in retirement, and mostly Tony
Parker finishing a rough season badly. Who knows, maybe the 2015-2016
campaign for Parker was just about trying to get over injuries, but there's
a clear sign of decline over the last two seasons, and hints that the Spurs
could need some new blood at point guard. Parker is signed on for two more
seasons at $30 million, while Patty Mills has one more year on his deal.
How does Lin fit in? He could be great, really great in San Antonio. On most
days he's better than Tony Parker is at the moment (we'll discuss his numbers
as a starter tomorrow), but the question is whether or not the Spurs are
willing to move on from Parker. He played 27.5 minutes per game when healthy
this season, while Mills got the rest, declining in points per minute. Lin
would be better for the Spurs than both of them, but only if room is made
for him. San Antonio might be one of the few places Lin would go to and
settle for less minutes than he could get somewhere else.
最后来看可能正搔著头,想着为什么我们会在第二轮系列赛输给雷霆的马刺队.
Ginobili在场上的表现看起来像是即将退休的样子,
Parker亦经历了糟糕表现的一季,他在本季最大的敌人便是伤病,
两老的状况都显示了马刺需要在控卫上注入新血.
Parker合约还有2年30M,替补控卫Mills还有一年合约,Lin要怎么融入马刺?
Lin真的可以在马刺表现得很棒,眼下来看若Lin表现的比Parker好,
问题是马刺愿不愿意变动Parker的位置(我们明天会讨论他可能先发的次数),
他健康时场均27.5分钟,Mills则是打剩下的时间,Parker的PPM也在下降中.
Lin在马刺应该可以表现的比他们两个好,前提是马刺愿意让Lin发挥,
另外马刺或许会是Lin几个愿意去的球队之一,就算上场时间可能更少.
【结论】
火箭: 哈登的胡子才是本体
鹈鹕: 至少假日或Reke要有阵容上的变动
灰熊: 假设康利离队,但灰熊未来不确定因素也很高
小牛: 后场已满(?)
马刺: 马刺怎么想才是重点
作者: AngelMAyCry (猛毒天蝎)   2016-05-17 00:43:00
期待去马刺
作者: newgunden (年中むきゅー)   2016-05-17 01:38:00
马刺主场对林很不利 德州根本是骑士州
作者: casman (卡)   2016-05-17 01:40:00
应该可以讨论有几队是即使以替补身份加入林也愿意的球队马刺对林应该非常有吸引力
作者: hutten (荷腾)   2016-05-17 07:25:00
恳请鹈鹕换掉阵中痛痛后场 考虑一下林
作者: zero4 (zero4)   2016-05-17 08:09:00
作者: springman (司布林)   2016-05-17 08:17:00
只是不知马刺对林有没有兴趣。看来还是不会很顺...
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 08:38:00
马刺就不要想了 太梦幻了 TP还有两年约还有其他替补可能性太低
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-05-17 08:43:00
看来 溜马 灰熊 篮网 这3队比较可能..
作者: donnylee (制服OL控)   2016-05-17 09:00:00
溜马也不用看,后场太满了!
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 09:01:00
有些是还要看他要不要留原来的 所以不明确
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-05-17 09:25:00
溜马的新教练很不优,不推荐;76人就是要看MDA是否扶正了
作者: phix (88)   2016-05-17 09:26:00
感觉也没几队能去 = =
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-05-17 09:26:00
虽然很多要看是否留原PG,不过签约有时间差问题,很麻烦很多东西很难等来等去,要看今年对Lin是买方还是卖方市场
作者: jaywang4 (酒中狂士)   2016-05-17 09:28:00
漆原大要不要顺便把我作的表贴过来啊!
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-05-17 09:29:00
MDA动向、Conley动向、Rose动向 大概这三点影响最大但这几件不一定很快底定 甚至MDA继续当76人助教的话很麻烦如果MDA扶正的话 76人几乎是绝对的首选Conley若很快底定 市场上pg就Rando跟Lin比较优质 再考虑场下因素 Lin的吸引力就不见得低于软豆如此一来谈判筹码就比较高一点 也比较有选择权力
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-17 09:37:00
刚刚查询了鹈鹕的薪资 发现很有趣(不单纯)16-17有约的只有7人 1个球员选择权 Gee (SG)2个球队选择权 不老TD (PG) + Babbitt (SG/SF射手)Gee的薪水才1.38M 我觉得会跳脱试试看有约的里面 AD不用说 最吸金的是Asik (11M*4y)另一个内线Ajinca (5M*3y) Cunnungham (PF/SF 3M*2y)林在场上的主要竞争者Holiday剩下一年10M林的球权竞争者Evans也剩下10M一年本来还有一个Gordan 今夏约满再见所以结论是鹈鹕很有机会 教练来自太阳勇士竞争者约短而且伤多 林如果能签下三年约 蛰伏一下其实交易大限后 说不定能出头 和AD搭配的画面太美挽救Asik的画面也太美另外 Holiday这季降为替补 说不定他本人已习惯了
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 09:55:00
都是还要再看䁖 教练怎么样 打啥战数
作者: attdave (用尽一生的爱)   2016-05-17 10:00:00
我还是觉得林会留黄蜂,但不知能谈到多少$$
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-17 10:04:00
鹈鹕因为这季太失败 我觉得振作的力道会很强
作者: pttyeon (the one)   2016-05-17 10:33:00
小牛看法是林打2号吃亏 打1号成绩又没比小胖好多少 宁愿赌过往有时绩的小胖福袋 替补PG的话就多到满出来马刺空间只有替补1-2号薪水不会高跟牛板差不多想法
作者: jaywang4 (酒中狂士)   2016-05-17 10:37:00
假日哥打替补是因为他实在太痛痛,只好限制上场时间
作者: pttyeon (the one)   2016-05-17 10:48:00
evans可以客串1号太好用了不可能放 假日可能会被放掉Gordan痛痛+矮2号也不会再续约了
作者: hutten (荷腾)   2016-05-17 11:01:00
林+Evans+AD 这画面不错
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 11:07:00
忘了Lin是强力buff机器吗@@?! 到时每个人又能量满满 刷好刷满 身体壮的像牛 到时林就尴尬了....
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 11:31:00
小牛就不要想了 他们不缺人 球迷又...
作者: leafland (小游)   2016-05-17 11:35:00
小牛会先专注在DH,又不缺后场,不用讨论吧应该说怎么讨论,小牛差不多就那样了,根本不知林几顺位
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-17 11:39:00
反正不用再提那队 其他的比较有机会
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 11:49:00
小牛还是抱着好好棒棒的5人后场吧 抱好抱满嘿 ^_< ~+
作者: kinki999 (QQk(廢文被劣文中))   2016-05-17 11:52:00
水鸟有先发的话,跟ad组我也很想看
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 11:57:00
看到内线是AD口水都流出来了 但假日男跟古登桑处理掉先
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-17 11:59:00
Gorden约满了Hoopshype竟然把Gordon排在Waiters后面
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-05-17 12:06:00
对厚~~"去年他选择执行合约...太痛啦!! XD
作者: turbomons (Τ/taʊ/)   2016-05-17 12:07:00
推推
作者: darkfeather (水色)   2016-05-17 15:36:00
去年是后场大多太满,今年则是变量太多
作者: Joba07 (骗人布)   2016-05-17 15:41:00
看起来这一组就是水鸟如果处理掉假日和EG的话 就蛮适合的其他的大概不用想太多
作者: gobby3958 (狗鼻)   2016-05-17 18:12:00
不要去水鸟阿...球场被埋球衣了吧 看今年的伤兵就知道
作者: brownhusky (fuzzy)   2016-05-17 20:27:00
挽救阿西的画面...太惊悚惹XD 阿西在鹈鹕惨惨der
楼主: Landius (原来我是漆原派啊)   2016-05-17 21:33:00
阿西除了伤病因素以外是被封印吧? 我记得这季有一场AD和RA都没上场,他就回到双十阿西了.
作者: bhmok (無限的可能)   2016-05-17 23:49:00
AD有要持球攻击吗 还是多c&s ?
作者: dreamthink (candace)   2016-05-18 09:36:00
咦,小胖不是已经跳出合约了吗
作者: djviva (时鼠无奈)   2016-05-18 09:56:00
应该都不可能...哀
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-05-18 10:49:00
刚刚看完选秀顺位 NO的第五顺位会选Kris Dunn(PG)鹈鹕收工 Lin再去找买家
作者: downtoearth (东方耳号:)   2016-05-18 14:36:00
他球场应该不是埋球衣 应该是整个人埋下去了
作者: ibise (清了清喉咙 他继续唱着)   2016-05-18 17:30:00
推文好像没人提到提到篮网, 篮网已经被排除了吗?
作者: O10lOl01O ( ′▽`)   2016-05-18 19:00:00
这篇一开始就排除啦
作者: kinki999 (QQk(廢文被劣文中))   2016-05-18 19:31:00
因为篮网又不是这一组的
作者: clavi (CLLL)   2016-05-18 19:48:00
内文至少看一下吧..
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-18 20:00:00
标题看一下咩
作者: qazxswptt (...)   2016-05-18 21:48:00
全部看完 觉得能选的不多 还是重建或换血的队值得考虑
作者: hasah (you are more than that)   2016-05-18 22:47:00
大概就篮网 小牛(DW离开) 黄蜂(<10M) 灰熊(conely离开)
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-19 00:36:00
最好去篮网 准备看林一版超级林迷乱黄蜂版戏码再现
作者: Iversonchi (Farewell。)   2016-05-21 10:25:00
楼上是什么意思啊...@@
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-21 12:12:00
就是没有人的版还要跑去装作那版的球迷呛人结果发现没人想理他从此没出现过
作者: a7v333 (蠢与穷)   2016-05-21 13:23:00
拜托,黄蜂版也没因为林到黄蜂而人数爆增,依然是冷门版要脑补请先去黄蜂版看看
作者: brownhusky (fuzzy)   2016-05-21 13:45:00
黄蜂版一开始也有专门去闹的 但版主三两下就收伏了?
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-05-21 13:45:00
有啦 刚加盟那几天有HOT 后来又没人了XDD
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-21 13:58:00
18124还跑去那边PO文 吓尿宝宝了 宝宝不说
作者: JBGPOIU (钧)   2016-05-21 14:04:00
作者: springman (司布林)   2016-05-21 15:53:00
西区另外两组还有分析吗?等待中...
作者: goury   2016-05-22 06:38:00
18124叫做乱黄蜂板吗 XDDD 果真脑喔...虽然当年他黄蜂那篇也被我酸火箭迷来了...
作者: patrickleeee (派脆)   2016-05-22 09:34:00
他没说大师去闹吧 是箭迷阴魂不散
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-05-22 11:58:00
我被说脑 p地下版主我要私信你!
作者: boyd1014 (David)   2016-05-22 21:17:00
欢迎光临北韩~
作者: msk127 (歼灭太白粉)   2016-06-20 00:15:00
废到笑 赶快退一退拉

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