[外絮] Lin是个角色球员,其实这也不错!

楼主: kairiyu (E N O U G H is enough)   2016-03-23 13:10:08
Jeremy Lin is a role player, and that's OK
Lin是个角色球员,其实这也不错!
http://goo.gl/Rhg80V
【文长,看到篇关于林的定位的外絮,觉得不错,在此翻译分享,若有任何错误或需要更
正的地方请不吝指教!】
Jeremy Lin exploded on Monday night, scoring 29 points in 31 minutes to lead
the Charlotte Hornets all the way back from a seven-point first quarter and a
23-point deficit to stun a San Antonio Spurs team just two nights removed
from beating the defending NBA champion Golden State Warriors. He made 11 of
his 18 shots, including all four of his 3-point tries, and poured in 15 in
the fourth quarter alone, nearly outscoring Gregg Popovich's crew by himself
in the final 12 minutes. He was amazing in a fashion that reminded viewers of
the 2012 breakthrough that made "Linsanity" a household term; it was really
cool to watch.
林前晚爆炸性的演出,上场31分钟得了29分并带领球队从首节只得7分、落后23分的困境
中逆势击败上一场才打败联盟冠军勇士队的马刺。包括三分线4次出手全进,全场出手18中
11、在决胜第四节灌进15分,在比赛最后12分钟几乎是靠他从波波手上扳回一城。让人不
禁回想起“Linsanity”这个单字,真的挺酷的!
Here's what I wrote when I shared the post I wrote about Lin's performance
and Charlotte's win on the Ball Don't Lie Facebook page: "Jeremy Lin has
settled into life as a role player, but on Monday night, the Charlotte
Hornets needed him to play like a star to author a historic comeback against
the San Antonio Spurs ... and he did just that." That teaser copy prompted a
rebuke from a commenter who called it a "very stupid statement" to suggest
that Lin has "settled into life as a role player," arguing that the former
Warriors, New York Knicks, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers guard
remains one of the league's most effective pick-and-roll operators, and that
he has played at an All-Star level when he's gotten the opportunity to take
over for Kemba Walker and dominate the ball for Steve Clifford's club.
在此之前笔者在脸书上发表“林被定位成角色球员,但这晚,黄蜂队希望他能打得像
明星球员去完成对马刺对历史级的逆转胜,而他做到了。”时,有位乡民很快的也贴上了
之前一位评论家的意见:“把林定位成角色球员是很愚蠢的!”,并且质疑勇士尼克火箭
湖人没有留下联盟顶尖的档拆执行者,而让林抓住了机会去Clifford旗下以全明星的层级
辅佐天行者。
Here's the thing, though: Both of those statements can be true. We don't have
to view the term "role player" as an insult.
是这样的,两种定位都可能是真的,但也不用把被定位成“角色球员”当作是一种耻辱。
Lin's overall production for the Hornets this season doesn't necessarily leap
off the page. He's averaging about 12 points, three rebounds and three
assists in 26 minutes per game, posting his worst shooting percentage since
his 2012 breakout and making a subpar 33.5 percent of his 3s, and assisting
on a lower share of his teammates' shots than ever. He's been closer to
average than elite in the pick-and-roll, ranking 60th in points per
possession among 112 players who have finished at least 100 plays as a
screen-game ball-handler, according to Synergy Sports Technology's
game-charting data. In some respects, he's having a pretty similar season to
the one that went largely unremarked upon last year in Los Angeles.
林目前在黄蜂的成绩可能还没有非常亮眼,26分钟内场均约12分3篮板3助攻,但是三分命
中率33.5%却是从他成名以来最低的成绩、助攻也比以往来的少。另一方面据报导,他的挡
拆成绩算是接近前段班的,在112名起码完成100次挡拆且球队有得分的控球者中排名第60
位。在某些方面表现得跟上季在湖人阵中差不多。
A lot of that's due to the context in which he's playing, though. Lin's
working off the ball more than he has in his NBA career, spending nearly
two-thirds of his minutes at shooting guard, according to
Basketball-Reference.com's positional breakdowns. Lin has spent the bulk of
that off-guard time — 1,004 of his 1,737 total minutes this season —
alongside Walker, giving Clifford a backcourt in which both guards can
handle the ball, run pick-and-roll, get to the basket, space the floor,
create off the bounce and get to the foul line.
很大方面是因为他的比赛方式,据统计,本季林空手的时间比生涯平均高、场上几乎有三
分之二的时间处于没有持球的得分后卫模式(1004/1737分钟)。让教练可以安排他搭配天
行者一同在场上处理球、跑档拆、切入、清出空间、急停出手、站上罚球线。
The results have been damn good, with Charlotte's offense humming a tick
above its season average in Walker-Lin minutes (104.6 points per 100
possessions, compared to to 104.3 points-per-100) while outscoring opponents
by a strong 4.7-per-100, equivalent to the Toronto Raptors'
fifth-best-in-the-NBA full-season net rating. In those minutes, though,
Walker's the clear primary operator.
结果真是他X的好!他们两同时在场时黄蜂每100次球权可以得104.6分(球队平均104.3分)
,每100次球权比对手多4.7分,跟目前战绩排名第五的多伦多暴龙差不多。不过,两人同
时在场时,大多是由天行者处理球权。
The UConn product has commandeered 225 more plays than Lin in their shared
minutes and finished nearly 28 percent of Charlotte's possessions with a
field-goal attempt, foul drawn or turnover committed, compared to a "usage
rate" of just over 19 percent for Lin, according to NBAwowy.com. While roles
can shift and evolve over the course of a possession, by and large, in that
alignment, Kemba's the point man and Jeremy's working the wing.
When Lin's on the floor without Walker, though, that's when he gets more of
an opportunity to create ... and, by and large, he's done quite a bit with it.
天行者在两人一起在场上时的出手、站上罚球线和失误收尾比林多了225次,以百分比来
看是28%比19%。大致来说,天行者是球队重点而林是在旁协助。当只有林在场时,他才有
更多机会创造发挥。
His usage rate spikes to 27.2 percent, according to NBAwowy, and he averages
about 3 1/2 more field-goal attempts and two more 3-point tries per 36
minutes of non-Kemba floor time, per NBA.com's stat tool. His field-goal and
3-point accuracy have jumped by about 4 percent when he's running the show,
and his statistical production — 19.2 points, 5.2 assists and 4.3 rebounds
per-36 without Walker — would put him in pretty impressive company. Only 11
players this season are averaging at least 19-5-4 per-36, including All-Stars
Stephen Curry, Russell Westbrook, Kyle Lowry, LeBron James, Chris Paul, James
Harden, John Wall and Dwyane Wade.
据统计,天行者不在场时,林每40分钟的进攻回合(usage rate)是27.2%、每36分钟多3.5
次出手、2次的三分线出手,两分和三分的命中率多4%。如果是用另一个统计数据来看更惊
人,天行者不在场上时林每36分钟的数据是19.2分5.2助攻4.3篮板,联盟当中只有11个全
明星有这样的身手包括Curry、西河、罗莉、姆斯、船长、哈登、墙哥和Wade。
One of those 11, though, is Walker, who has largely carried Charlotte's
offense since the All-Star break and who, by just about any objective
measure, has been the more productive player this season. The prioritization
of Walker over Lin in the Hornets' structure is not a misappropriation of
resources; it's an earned hierarchy, entirely justified by what the two
players have done on the court this season.
11个当中还有一个是天行者,明星赛后他带领黄蜂的进攻端并且在这季成为一个非常有效
率的球员。黄蜂以天行者为优先考量,纯粹只是以他们两人本季在场上的表现做出抉择。
And that's no slam on Lin, whose ability to act as a source of instant
offense off the pine will likely earn him some Sixth Man of the Year
consideration. If anything, it only highlights the significant step forward
Walker has taken as a shooter and overall offensive force, which has been one
of the most significant contributing factors to the Hornets' rise from the
lottery to a 40-30 mark that has them fighting for home-court advantage in
the opening round of the playoffs and hoping to make some noise thereafter.
不过,林本季目前的表现也让他有机会角逐年度最佳第六人。不论如何,天行者本季在进
攻端的优异亮点,的确是让黄蜂从乐透区晋升为目前战绩40胜并且企图在季后赛首轮取得
主场优势的最大因素,也将会在往后吸引更多的关注声音。
What we have, then, is a player who's capable of working within a team
concept that doesn't include him being the primary playmaker and offensive
focal point, but who can also do damage while running the show against
opposing second units and — as he showed on Monday night against the Spurs —
who can act as a top gun for stretches when circumstances require it. We
have a player who understands his place in the team's pecking order and who
contributes within it, who isn't called on to carry the load on a nightly
basis but who executes his responsibilities consistently and effectively.
That's a role player! There's nothing wrong or dirty about that.
我们现在看到的是,一个在球队一哥在场上时可以从旁协助、需要他发挥时也能具有威胁
性、前晚对马刺当球队需要他表现时他也立即有所回应的球员,也清楚自己在球队的定位
并很称职的扮演好自己的角色,虽然不是每晚都被要求带领球队但是可以持续地有效率地
做出贡献。这就叫做角色球员!这没有什么不好的地方!
In the context of the Charlotte Hornets, Walker is the top dog, the primary
scoring threat and top ball-handler; Nicolas Batum is the jack-of-all-trades
secondary scorer and distributor; and everybody else is skating their lane,
filling their niche, and looking to give the club whatever it needs on a
night-to-night basis. Most of the time, all Charlotte needs from Lin is for
him to be part of the larger playmaking and shot-creating whole, and unlike
in Houston and L.A., this team and this coach seem to understand how best to
maximize his contributions within that specific definition. That he's still
capable of getting everything flowing and hanging 29 on the best defense in
the league is a wonderful bonus, but it's not something Clifford, general
manager Rich Cho and owner Michael Jordan count on. That's what separates
stars from role players, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being the
latter.
对黄蜂来说,天行者依旧是得分首选,Batum是第二选择,其他人则是视每晚状况针对他们
的功能性发挥作用。跟火箭和湖人不同的是,黄蜂需要林做的事情是和队友一起参予进攻
和创造出手机会的一部分,黄蜂知道怎么样把林的贡献最大化。林在面对联盟最强马刺防
守下还是用各种手段得了29分,不过这不是教练Clifford、总管Rich Cho和老板乔丹所指
望可以持续的。这就是明星球员与角色球员的不同,但当后者也绝对没有什么不好!
心得:个人也认为只要林在黄蜂有稳定表现,就算不是明星级球员也很好阿!
作者: wedjkl789 (cc)   2016-03-23 13:13:00
翻译辛苦推
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-03-23 13:15:00
人总是要往天花板去迈进
作者: bhmok (無限的可能)   2016-03-23 13:16:00
当打的就这几年 不希望过几年速度慢了回首唏嘘
作者: ghostxx (aka0978)   2016-03-23 13:17:00
感谢翻译
作者: casman (卡)   2016-03-23 13:18:00
感谢翻译
作者: Gilbertsky (Gilbert)   2016-03-23 13:19:00
推翻译 离开黄蜂这个OK的地方是要冒点风险 看林怎么想林迷一定是希望追求林的能力最大化 黄蜂可以当成退路
作者: natsuki123 (夏树)   2016-03-23 13:23:00
感谢翻译
作者: jcchiou (十三翼, 顺风! 飞翔!)   2016-03-23 13:26:00
黄蜂算很会用Lin的
作者: timocijeng (踢抹洗)   2016-03-23 13:27:00
最后一句是说能对全联盟防守做强的球队拿下29分*最强(指马刺)
作者: djviva (时鼠无奈)   2016-03-23 13:28:00
感谢翻译, 希望林能一直打的开心
作者: downtoearth (东方耳号:)   2016-03-23 13:33:00
有谁能说MANU不是个好球员? 当MANU有什么不好
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-03-23 13:35:00
感谢翻译
作者: bhmok (無限的可能)   2016-03-23 13:40:00
Manu应该拥有他的战术地位和出手权的 这点林远远不及
作者: conqueror507 (冷箭)   2016-03-23 13:41:00
只要教练不要恶搞Lin,他完全可以离开的,文中也指出Lin有球时,数据跟表现是相当顶级的所以关键还是使用的方法
作者: deliciou70 (deliciou70)   2016-03-23 13:49:00
火箭虽然上场时间比较多 但大部分都是在折返跑
作者: Gilbertsky (Gilbert)   2016-03-23 13:52:00
马刺跟其他球队最大的不同是人人都能碰到球 这学不来
作者: casman (卡)   2016-03-23 13:53:00
场外因素也是啊, 在黄蜂有谁叫林领绳过了? 谁欺负过林?
作者: Gilbertsky (Gilbert)   2016-03-23 13:55:00
如果马刺要签林当作鬼秃用场均上20分钟 我100%支持
作者: lisunlo   2016-03-23 14:18:00
翻译推
作者: attdave (用尽一生的爱)   2016-03-23 14:20:00
前提是POPO还在啊......
作者: JerrySloan (万年教练)   2016-03-23 14:29:00
Manu是马刺最后一击的球员 Lin只有尼克时期可以这样
作者: Aquatics (小哈)   2016-03-23 14:29:00
作者: XD051 (RJ)   2016-03-23 14:45:00
认真问,林今年拿到第六人的机率有多高?
作者: casman (卡)   2016-03-23 14:48:00
接下来的比赛拿七八场20分就有机会
作者: gm79227922 (mr.r)   2016-03-23 14:48:00
不高就是
作者: Gilbertsky (Gilbert)   2016-03-23 14:56:00
最佳第六人可以参考Will Barton的成绩 大约要这个水准
作者: yoshro   2016-03-23 14:59:00
蹲低是为了跳高 他有好表现自然有人捧银子上门拉人
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-03-23 15:02:00
有时候看机缘 去年签这约很棒 今年的确是机会比较好的一年这约一堆人骂 可是今年后身价会比去年湖人后更容易被认同再来今年控卫自由球员不多 但是缺先发跟替补控卫的队变多
作者: b551122 (工友)   2016-03-23 15:20:00
谢谢翻译!!
作者: rod007 (月‧优蓝)   2016-03-23 15:30:00
今年Lin给人印象深刻的比赛比在湖人多
作者: waiting0801 (动感光波逼逼逼)   2016-03-23 15:53:00
推推推
作者: simata (gogogo)   2016-03-23 15:57:00
林打的开心就好:)
作者: asd250 (俄国摇摆舞)   2016-03-23 16:16:00
还是希望能有球权,全队同心能打进季后赛,来两三个好柱子跟跳跳人今年空接少到我都快哭了
作者: zero4 (zero4)   2016-03-23 16:24:00
赞成
作者: nsmmsn (nsmmsn)   2016-03-23 16:43:00
!
作者: BadGame (人生 欢乐易忘却执著痛苦)   2016-03-23 16:46:00
说林没有商业价值.. 结果卖票 乔神签的几个中国广告商加上.. 赛后还要单独开 见面会... 连客场都要 囧
作者: handlesome (人生如梦)   2016-03-23 17:08:00
推翻译
作者: stygianX (杀手挽歌)   2016-03-23 17:20:00
不知道有没有窝可在(有LIN)和(没有LIN)的时候的数据比较
作者: finocoundown (好思佳)   2016-03-23 17:33:00
作者: leehow0621 (猪)   2016-03-23 17:38:00
推翻译
作者: boyd1014 (David)   2016-03-23 17:39:00
角色:他可以当主角也可以当配角~~赞啦!
作者: p800917 (喜德)   2016-03-23 18:25:00
推辛苦翻译
作者: NgJovi (Solo NG MyFriend)   2016-03-23 18:43:00
好文 推推 感谢翻译
作者: lion500 (lion500)   2016-03-23 19:18:00
去有先发的球队!
作者: jcchiou (十三翼, 顺风! 飞翔!)   2016-03-23 19:37:00
能打30分钟的球队比较重要吧
作者: iEisen (开心过好年)   2016-03-23 19:41:00
干嘛一定要翻成天行者,走路人也可以啊!
作者: lion500 (lion500)   2016-03-23 20:35:00
我觉得林还是打控球最能发挥他的天赋,但愿能有当家主控
作者: balanokia (芭乐仙迹)   2016-03-23 20:45:00
当角色球员太浪费传球天赋了
作者: CC97 (怎次地一个宅字了得)   2016-03-23 20:55:00
赢马刺时那场lin是以角色球员在打吗?一篇此地无银三百两的文
作者: sodes72   2016-03-23 20:57:00
谢谢翻译
作者: CC97 (怎次地一个宅字了得)   2016-03-23 20:59:00
看完的感觉就是 "对,打赢马剌好棒棒,但别忘了你是角色球员"
作者: gidapops (你今天兄弟了没)   2016-03-23 21:20:00
看完文章心得:color打铁叫做铁路人
作者: daisyyeh   2016-03-23 21:23:00
青春有限,希望下季首选能先发的球队,但黄蜂给不了
作者: CYBERPUNK (norah jones terrific)   2016-03-23 21:39:00
manu真的是很特别的存在 我觉得lin虽然还不能跟他比 但他们类似的地方 就是能够改变球赛的流向
作者: boyd1014 (David)   2016-03-23 21:46:00
Lin 真。逆风球
作者: JBGPOIU (钧)   2016-03-23 22:32:00
作者: magamanzero (qqq)   2016-03-24 00:01:00
Lin跟Manu很像 除了身体天赋不一样以外...他们都擅长突破对方防守的漏洞 而不是是去制造漏洞依靠战术和队友的帮助 很容易利用自身的切入撕裂防守不过身体的天赋差异 决定了finish的容易程度...很多Manu能轻松放进的球 Lin还要绕过篮框反向上篮
作者: qazxswptt (...)   2016-03-24 00:07:00
Lin确实在finish上面比较辛苦 不过他其他部份练的弥补不少 他有的视野 启动速度 就是别人不容易有的武器
作者: jojozyzy   2016-03-24 00:30:00
下面一堆留言写 JLin is NOT a role player, 以他的成绩根本不该只是 role player
作者: bhmok (無限的可能)   2016-03-24 00:36:00
以林的天赋 真的不该侷限自已在角色球员 他已一再证明他可以带领球队前进
作者: jojozyzy   2016-03-24 00:37:00
留甚至还用stupid passive aggressive来形容这文章
作者: magamanzero (qqq)   2016-03-24 00:44:00
考虑长远 还是当脚色球员好 血统限制就是在那一场打个20-30 B2B好好休息 才能走得长远
作者: jojozyzy   2016-03-24 00:49:00
难道先发就不能长远?还有lin的体能比的过大半球员一个28Y有这种数据的球员就该追求先发,而非角色球员
作者: magamanzero (qqq)   2016-03-24 00:57:00
体力只是一个微小的因素...东方人身体素质就那样像是运动伤害的恢复 疲劳的累积 各种身体机能相关尤其是B2B这种会伤害身体的 还是少打为妙
作者: GIE13 (GIE)   2016-03-24 00:59:00
才28岁就别想着打老人球 先发才是价值的体现
作者: lvpsa (飞天隐地)   2016-03-24 02:25:00
唉.. 不管怎说以支持者的角度还是希望有朝一日成为明星球员
作者: starcry (天王星)   2016-03-24 03:37:00
扣掉勇士菜鸟年 这季在篮下的命中率是生涯次差林体能(爆发力)上的天赋 在控卫中是相对不出色 在对抗后的出手是一定吃亏 找林跟其他明星PG的高光来比较就能知道了 力道跟延展性都有落差 能善用速度对他就已经很棒了而这方面只会随年纪愈来愈衰退 要期待他能继续向上突破加强运球 投篮 还有掌控球的欲望才是解答 但林似乎很享受做为球队一环 不求个人表现的现况就是了
作者: goury   2016-03-24 03:51:00
从Lin之前的发言来看,觉得他是"被"享受不求个人表现的现况因为前三季遭受的挫折,让他不得不调适自己心态来接受现况
作者: gm79227922 (mr.r)   2016-03-24 04:19:00
以对抗性来说 林不差了 最大问题还是投篮稳定度这三场 投篮恢复 就有林来疯时的表现
作者: boyd1014 (David)   2016-03-24 05:58:00
一晃眼28岁了,唉总觉得BS要赔他钱
作者: uuilee (lee)   2016-03-24 07:17:00
最大问题还是nba的认同还记得 他哈佛篮球教练说的话吗林书豪nba成功需要一个以他为lead的球队可惜现今种族主义下这不可能 最接近应该是林来疯那时期他的球技最强是他无私之心 及团结之力及聪明团队篮球不过这几年他球技也被磨到有一定程度了诚心希望他能够跟mda在合体 因为丹东尼 感觉是个最有个性教练能不耍大牌球星
作者: kuloda (kuloda)   2016-03-24 08:11:00
机运问题 尼克受伤 火箭遇胡子高USG 湖人BS 黄蜂Walker真正完整先发打过PG就火箭第一年 虽有胡子 数据也还可黄蜂蛮不错 只是刚好球队一哥就是PG 又很矮防守劣势今年Lin好几场先发 都打得很不错 但实在很不容易有这机会
作者: ChrisPaul03   2016-03-24 08:53:00
14分6助攻 不到顶尖但也是合格的先发PG哪有什么先发未满的道理
作者: mamimi (攒RP)   2016-03-24 08:57:00
觉得这篇文章就是整个NBA对林的定位,替补以上先发以下,打得很好“偶尔”还可以充当救世主的角色球员...
作者: popstan (stan)   2016-03-24 09:20:00
作者: nancyh (竹元宝)   2016-03-24 09:23:00
能有更好的发展或到有很好战术地位的理想球队是最好 但 无论是先发还是替补 都希望Lin能保有舍我其谁的那股气!且 有很强而有力的经纪团队运作 有时也很重要 不然这职场印象派的ㄧ堆 = =
作者: downtoearth (东方耳号:)   2016-03-24 09:45:00
没办法,刚好遇到大后卫时代 第一或第二得分手就是后卫的球队 太普遍了...
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-03-24 10:12:00
后卫这位置太竞争了
作者: ytre5896   2016-03-24 15:46:00
作者: donnylee (制服OL控)   2016-03-24 23:19:00
推uu大说的,nba不会给林先发这个机会的
作者: muller   2016-03-25 02:51:00
亚裔在美工作就是会被刻意压抑,再跟你说其实这也不错
作者: satheni (看到羊就想睡..)   2016-03-25 07:00:00
林打不了先发跟现在一堆当家球星都抢球权比较有关吧...而且要打造一个以林为主的球队,要塞一些角色球员这样子明星球员少,球队就不赚钱了...就算能赚钱,也不保证林能打多久,后面倒掉重建也是问题
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-03-25 09:31:00
现在抱腿文化盛行 星度集中在几队 各队球星的星度黯淡光比人气跟炒作 根本不用担心 林待的队 明星少 一堆明星赛票选输林输那么多的.....况且一直以来也不是每队都认真的在拼搏季后赛跟冠军赛低..
作者: davidlhs (David)   2016-03-25 10:25:00
别人怎么城他定位是一回事,LIN自己的期许不能这样消极
作者: downtoearth (东方耳号:)   2016-03-25 10:38:00
"打造一个以林为主的球队"这句其实很奇怪...你们确定,LIN自己期待这件事发生吗?
作者: PttCraft (WOT NA 怒伯)   2016-03-25 11:18:00
当然期待
作者: Gilbertsky (Gilbert)   2016-03-25 11:22:00
我的想法是能做Play Maker的人之中没有不想当核心的当你知道自己持球能掌控比赛节奏时 你不会想打无球的
作者: expedition (Pela)   2016-03-25 15:39:00
无论去那里永远有强手,不能跟人合作就是整合的问题与其期待教练不如自己练强,或自己多跟人练搭配攻击
作者: jcchiou (十三翼, 顺风! 飞翔!)   2016-03-25 21:36:00
想要成为建队核心,自己要够强够稳,Lin还缺稳定性>70%的出赛都能打出虐马刺的功力,人家抱着钱来求你当大哥
作者: bhmok (無限的可能)   2016-03-25 21:59:00
有人可以说下到底有多不稳吗?和其他相近的球员比稳定性有差多少?
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-03-25 22:19:00
撇开肤色问题 讲直白一点就是天赋跟个人技巧不特别优异跟稳定性没关系 人家要捧打在烂数据有刷到也没关系Lin的心态才是问题 企图心不足 自信心看手感^如果单单观察Lin的话 对Lin个人而言
作者: miha80425 (ohsialay)   2016-03-25 22:39:00
无私到他那个地步 想当核心除非教练有爱
作者: jt   2016-03-25 23:25:00
很多球星都是大量球权和时间养出来的你林的命没有这样好 然后人又太好...
作者: playing808 (nnrfr)   2016-03-25 23:29:00
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-03-25 23:36:00
别人的不"稳定" 都可以说是有潜力 有能量 还年轻.....看看这些年被酸吹捧的咖....
作者: eileen86 (兜圈)   2016-03-25 23:38:00
我林没那命好吗 ㄧ场低于10就酸不稳 别人直接略过不谈XDD去查其他对替补数据 也没场场"稳定" 但大众只拿这点酸林*队
作者: Peaks3000 (匹克斯)   2016-03-25 23:40:00
还先发未满板凳以上咧!!......标准是????????
作者: BadGame (人生 欢乐易忘却执著痛苦)   2016-03-25 23:48:00
开创者的道路很辛苦 只能背后支持了...
作者: eno03 (健康很重要)   2016-03-27 00:29:00
感谢翻译 希望有一天能看到他打先发PG整季
作者: O10lOl01O ( ′▽`)   2016-03-27 09:15:00
有一天?到火箭第一季就是这样阿 应该说再有吧
作者: boyd1014 (David)   2016-03-27 19:50:00
是阿~~9分也可以酸 哈哈哈
作者: msk127 (歼灭太白粉)   2016-06-20 00:09:00
废到笑 赶快退一退拉

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