Re: [情报] Artosis回应DreamHack事件

楼主: softseaweed (Gladys von Wackenheim)   2014-06-18 07:02:34
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: 看完的结果Artosis虽然和rdu谈过,可是他还是有很多不确定的地方。太多地方充满他的
: 猜测,然后现在还没能力找出事实,太可笑了,都多久了?
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Artosis不过是一位主播,他今天发表的这篇文章主要目的绝对不是帮rdu洗白
他的目的是要检讨这次的过错
: 纵然无罪推定好了,这还是掩饰不了主办单位是白痴的事实。他护航hunter mark是很荒
: 谬的作弊方式。即便非rdu的本意下看到Amaz手牌内容,后续他是不是没有作为继续出牌
: ?如果他真的采用呢?如果他没跟Artosis坦白当时的真正抉择呢?
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As we all saw, RDU had the game won against Amaz, but of course he couldn’t
have known for certain that this is the case. If he knew that Amaz had Flare
that turn, he would have certainly Alexstraza’d himself, and then lost a
turn or two later. Because the game was not winnable vs a Flare, he took the
(correct) risk to decide the game then by Alexstrazaing Amaz. This was really
the only line of play that made sense. I’m not the best Hearthstone player
in the whole world, but I saw and thought this. I talked to the other pros,
and they have all agreed with this line of play. I’d like to hear if any pro
disagrees and thinks using Alexstraza on himself was a reasonable play in
that spot.
跟我们看到的一样,RDU的确在当下已经赢了Amaz(红龙喷猎人那回合),但是当然他并没有
完全认知到自己已经赢了的事实。如果他认为Amaz有flare,他应该会很确定的红龙自己,
然后在一两回合之后落败。因为那场游戏没办法靠红龙RDU自己来获胜,他选择了承担(正
确)的风险来红龙Amaz以换取胜利的机会。这在当时是为一合理的打法。我不是最好的炉石
玩家,但是我看到了当时的局面也想到了同样的解法。我跟其他职业玩家也讨论过,他们
也同意这在当时的确是最合理的玩法。我也想听听看有没有其他职业玩家不认为红龙Amaz
是正确的选择。
: Artosis可以一厢情愿以“他自己”认为无“明白事证”,那其他人就不能用别种可能性
: 来质疑?会伤害到17岁的少年?别开玩笑了,一来我们无法确切得知rdu的犯意(他单方
: 说没有我们能怎样),二来真正造因伤害rdu的是他们那群主办单位(密语的也是)。
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: 面对极度争议的状况、不能确定是否rdu想作弊的情形下,主办单位居然不重赛?以当时A
: maz手牌推定不影响他输的结果所以这样决断?
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NO ONE TOLD AMAZ WHAT WAS GOING ON
This is by far the worst part of everything. I am in complete shock and
disbelief that Amaz was not told about this situation while they were looking
into what was going on.
这是目前为止整个事件中最糟糕的部分。我感到震惊,并且无法相信Amaz没有被告知当时
主办单位在检视这个问题时到底发生了什么事情。
: 太可笑了,如果说作弊不影响结果就没差,那酒驾没撞死人是不是无罪?照此标准以后面
: 对作弊争议,我只要以小绵羊姿态说我不是故意、我是无辜的,是否就能两手拍拍装作没
: 这回事蒙混过去?反正不会重比嘛,当我赚到囉~
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: 然后提到Amaz人很好(趁机发好人卡吗?)他有资格抗议却没这么做。窝草Amaz人好关Ar
: tosis什么屁事?这是在暗示Amaz不珍惜自己的权利吗?我干他娘亲的主办单位,Amaz有
: 儒家反求诸己的优点,先思考自己的不足,可这不代表他妈你主办就可以把责任推到Amaz
: 身上,真是会顺水推舟啊~
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Amaz is one of the nicest and fairest guys that I’ve met. I really do not
think that he’s the type of guy who would use a technicality to get a
regame, or an advantage. When it was decided that the series would continue,
I thought (as everyone else must have thought) that Amaz was told what was
going on. You have to inform the players. In my opinion, they have he right
to argue and possibly lodge a complaint about a ruling. Amaz was not given
this chance to lodge a complaint (which, and I’m just guessing here, he may
not even have done) .
Amaz是我认识的人之中最好且最善良的人之一。我真的不认为他是那种会用比赛规则来
申请重赛来争取重赛或是优势的人。当大会决定比赛将继续举行时,我(跟大家可能一样)
当时想的是Amaz已经被告知发生了什么事(RDU有收到密语)。你必须要告知选手们。在我看
来,Amaz的确有权利可以上诉并且争取裁定。Amaz当时并没有被给予这个机会(而我猜他
可能也没有争取)。
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Artosis是在说Amaz是在比赛结束后才被告知RDU有被密语,因此Amaz当下没有上诉很正常
。这有在暗示什么吗? 我只看到Artosis在暗示大会的不周而已。
: 一个机制不严谨的比赛、一群脑残逻辑的乱下决断的主办、一个极有可能作弊的17岁屁孩
: ,通通都是受害人、通通无罪推定,那我想请问谁是凶手?是鬼吗?哩尬哇骗孝耶!
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