Re: [转录] 阿北上外交家杂志啦！
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 16:36:04
※ 引述《tim2468x (宇宙の大统领)》之铭言：
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: 整段翻好累 我翻关键段就好惹
: 自己往下滑 感谢谷歌翻译大神
这篇大意就是：台湾如何在疫情爆炸后压下来
写得蛮简洁有力
看新闻的翻译 很多没讲到
所以我随便翻个大意(修文改一下翻译：第一段 之前翻太简略)
: During the pandemic, Taiwan went about business as usual. Schools were open, con
: certs were playing, theaters were packed. Restaurants were bustling, the economy
: was booming, and expatriates and overseas Taiwanese flooded into the island. Ta
: iwan was among a group of fortunate countries, including Australia, New Zealand,
: Vietnam, and Singapore, whose citizens went about business as usual as tight bo
: rders, strict quarantine rules, and excellent contract tracing kept the virus at
: bay.
疫情期间，台湾各行各业运作如常，学校有开，电影院塞满人。餐厅生意很好，
经济大发，外国人跟海外台湾人涌入台湾。
台湾是包含澳洲，新西兰，越南，新加坡等国的幸运的国家之一，
这些国家（含台湾），靠严格的边境管制，隔离规定，优越的疫调来防病毒。
: That enviable routine came to an end in mid-May 2021 when an outbreak of COVID-1
: 9 transmission upended everyday life. Yet, COVID-19 cases have fallen significan
: tly in recent days. New cases per day have fallen from 535 on May 17 to an avera
: ge of fewer than 20 in the past seven days. On July 26, Taiwan reported a new lo
: w of 10 cases of community transmission.
五月中却爆发了。但是成功的从最高一天535压到20以内，在7/26只剩10例社区传染。
: How did Taiwan suppress this wave of COVID-19 transmission, even as Australia, V
: ietnam, and Singapore are struggling with an uptick of the virus?
: First, Taiwan doubled down on longstanding strategies of masking, quarantine mea
: sures, and contact tracing. Long before this wave, as early as April 2020, Taiwa
: n had already instituted mask mandates on public transportation. The government
: extended the mask mandate to everybody on the island and required its citizens t
: o wear a mask outside their home.
连澳洲，越南，新加坡都辛苦的处理疫情升温的时候，
台湾是怎么压疫情的？
台湾强化了一些实行已久措施，例如戴口罩，隔离，疫调。
去年四月就强制大众运输戴口罩，出门也要戴口罩。
: Moreover, Taiwan extended its quarantine facilities for those entering the count
: ry from abroad to domestic COVID-19 patients. Many local governments began provi
: ding options for anyone testing positive to quarantine in a government-provided
: hotel or facility. The provision of quarantine facilities significantly reduced
: transmission of the virus within the family, thus reducing the number of cases i
: n the community.
台湾给入境的人扩充了隔离的设施， 地方政府给阳姓病人住政府提供的隔离所。
有效的减缓家庭内群聚，进而减少社区传染。
: Democratic Taiwan, in its attempt to maintain civil liberties, eschewed the more
: invasive phone-based surveillance technology used by countries in the region. I
: nstead, contact tracers leveraged the records of Taiwanese businesses who encour
: aged their patrons to leave their contacts either by writing them down on a piec
: e of paper or scanning a business-provided QR code from an app from their phones
: . While these records were imperfect, they still managed to reduce transmission
: rates in conjunction with universal masking and enhanced quarantine measures whi
: le maintaining a high level of civil liberties.
民主的台湾，为了维护公民的自由，刻意避免用电话监控系统，
取而代之的是让人民在进入营业场所时留个资，扫描QR code等等,
跟同区域的其他国家（中韩？）不同。
虽然这些资讯不一定完整，但配合强制口罩跟隔离政策，还是有效的压制感染率，
在此同时，还维护了高度的公民自由。
: Second, the Taiwanese government was willing to listen to critics and change its
: policies in fighting the pandemic. Taiwan emphasizes surface and droplet-based
: transmission of COVID-19 over the global consensus that the virus could be trans
: mitted through aerosols in poorly ventilated indoor spaces. Taiwanese authoritie
: s were reluctant to ban indoor dining in the early days of the outbreak, as they
: felt that measures such as social distancing and plexiglass installation would
: prevent transmission. However, after growing intervention from its diaspora and
: local expatriates who urged the government to restrict indoor activities, many l
: ocal governments eventually banned indoor dining and restricting indoor activiti
: es. Incidentally, the mayor of the southern port city of Kaohsiung led the way i
: n limiting indoor dining. His early move became critical in preventing any sprea
: d of the virus in Kaohsiung from Taipei and New Taipei City, which had substanti
: al community transmission. Some local governments have continued to ban indoor d
: ining partly for fear of criticism from voters, even though such a ban was lifte
: d recently by the central government as cases fell. Finally, the ruling DPP gove
: rnment supported the high-profile purchase of BioNTech vaccines from Germany via
: a mainland Chinese company by a former presidential hopeful in the rival Chines
: e Nationalist Party (KMT) after segments of the Taiwanese population expressed i
: nterest in obtaining those vaccines.
其次，台湾政府愿意听专家的意见。
比起现在世界公认的气溶胶传染途径，
台湾政府更重视防治接触传染跟飞沫传染，
所以一开始政府不想禁止室内用餐。
但是外籍专业人士呼吁政府要禁止室内活动（应该是说新加坡医生）
最终政府还是禁止了。
高雄市长在这上面是领头羊，他的提前部署，
对于让高雄不被双北疫情扩散影响有重要影响。
（这边应该是说一开始高雄的室内用餐群聚，但忘记是不是暖男先禁止的）
此外 在台湾人民表达想要买BNT后
DPP也支援了想代表反对党选总统的郭董，透过中国去买。
: Third, the Taiwanese people actively sought accountability from politicians in f
: ighting the pandemic. Fighting diseases became a marker for good governance in T
: aiwan’s modern history, beginning from the colonial period, where Japanese medi
: cal officers sought to eradicate infectious diseases to benefit the colonizers,
: to the more recent period, where Taiwanese health experts criticized politicians
: for being too slow and unprepared in dealing with the outbreak of the SARS viru
: s in 2003.
第三点，台湾人认为政府需要为防疫负起责任。
防疫防得好，象征著治理能力好，
（反观欧美...都不想被管）
这可以追溯到日治时代，日本的官员
想藉著消灭一些传染病，来帮助殖民政府。
2003的sars也被批评说政府太慢 准备不周 etc.
: In today’s context, the mayor of Taiwan, Ko Wen-je, has been chastised by media
: personalities, politicians, and voters for his relatively poor performance in f
: ighting the outbreak. They criticized Ko for not taking contact tracing and test
: ing seriously enough to contain localized outbreaks at markets, for failing to e
: stablish a proper vaccine distribution system, and pushing the blame for the per
: sistent community transmission on the ground to anyone but himself. Elected as a
: populist, the physician-turned-mayor saw his approval numbers for pandemic cont
: rol falling almost 7 percentage points from June to July 2021, the most signific
: ant fall among all mayors. Ongoing criticism has spurred Ko to accept the help o
: f medical experts from the CDC reluctantly. They have sought to improve anti-pan
: demic efforts on the ground with the assistance of the vice mayor of Taipei.
: 在今天的背景下，台湾市长柯文哲因抗击疫情表现相对不佳而受到媒体人士、政界人士和选
: 民的批评。 他们批评柯没有足够认真地进行接触者追踪和检测以控制市场上的局部爆发，
: 未能建立适当的疫苗分发系统，并将持续社区传播的责任推给除他之外的任何人。 当选为
: 民粹主义者后，这位医生出身的市长看到他的大流行控制支持率从 6 月到 2021 年 7 月下
: 降了近 7 个百分点，这是所有市长中降幅最大的一次。 持续的批评促使柯不情愿地接受了
: 疾控中心医学专家的帮助。 他们寻求在台北市副市长的协助下加强当地的抗疫工作。
: Fourth, Taiwan’s media played an understated role in fighting the pandemic. Tai
: wan’s free-wheeling media, which traces its origins to the democratization of t
: he media landscape in the 1990s, competed to provide the latest information on f
: ighting COVID-19 around the clock. Despite some outlets promoting vaccine hesita
: ncy through emphasizing alleged cases of deaths associated with WHO-approved vac
: cines, most television stations have modeled good behaviors in their broadcasts.
: Almost all variety shows and news programs have moved online or insisted that a
: ll guests and hosts wear masks and socially distance. These measures reflected t
: he seriousness of the Taiwanese media in fighting the pandemic and modeling appr
: opriate behaviors for their viewers, irrespective of their political leanings.
第四，台湾的媒体扮演着被低估的角色。
尽管有些媒体散播疫苗恐慌，
大部分的媒体不分颜色都做了很好的示范，
争相提供最新的防疫资讯，
几乎所有的综艺节目跟新闻都线上化，
不然就是强制来宾戴口罩，做社交距离等等。
（说到这 最近打开政论 发现口罩花色真多 还会跟衣服搭配）
: Fifth, Taiwan reaped the goodwill it sowed in the early days of pandemics. Taiwa
: n donated more than 51 million face masks to countries worldwide last year. Reci
: pient countries, in return, have gifted Taiwan precious vaccines during this out
: break, which the country struggled to obtain due to geopolitical reasons. Japan
: has given Taiwan more than 3.3 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccines, and the Un
: ited States has delivered 2.5 million doses of Moderna vaccines to Taiwan in the
: last two months. Lithuania, Slovenia, and Czechia have also pledged tens of tho
: usands of vaccines to Taiwan. With the vaccines it purchased from COVAX and the
: United States, Taiwan has inoculated 28 percent of its population with one dose
: of vaccine, a considerable leap from the 1 percent of the population before the
: most recent outbreak.
第五，台湾在疫情初期的善意得到回报。
因为地缘政治的关系，台湾买疫苗很辛苦，
台湾送口罩的国家回赠了疫苗，
所以在疫情爆发前到爆发后 疫苗覆蓋率大跃进。
: Taiwan’s success may not last, given the virulent Delta variant may breach Taiw
: an’s borders as it did in Australia, Vietnam, Singapore, and elsewhere. But its
: experiences, both near and far, should put the country in good stead in dealing
: with future outbreaks. Global health experts should consider how Taiwan has suc
: cessfully fought COVID-19 as a democracy, particularly in its incremental improv
: ements on testing, tracing, and isolation without significantly compromising fun
: damental freedoms and civil liberties.
台湾的成功未必能一直持续下去，
因为Delta很猛,台湾可能也会像新，越，澳一样被攻破,
但是台湾防疫的经验，不论从短期或长远来看，
对于处理未来可能的的爆发，都会有帮助。
国际的医疗专家，应该思考台湾是如何以一个民主政体的身份，成功的防疫，
特别是台湾在检测，疫调，隔离的措施是渐进式的，
不会对公民自由造成太大的牺牲。
: Despite criticism from the opposition party, the government’s willingness to sh
: are its homegrown vaccine, developed with the assistance of the U.S. National In
: stitutes of Health, has revealed Taiwan’s desire to be a responsible member of
: the global health community. Taiwan’s generosity in sharing masks, resources, a
: nd expertise reveals the urgency for Taiwan to be given an observer status in th
: e World Health Assembly. Taiwan can help, and the international health community
: should facilitate such assistance in order to end the global pandemic.
: 尽管遭到反对党的批评，但政府愿意分享在美国国立卫生研究院协助下开发的本土疫苗，这
: 表明台湾渴望成为全球卫生界负责任的一员。 台湾在分享口罩、资源和专业知识方面的慷
: 慨解囊，表明台湾获得世界卫生大会观察员地位的紧迫性。 台湾可以提供帮助，国际卫生
: 界应促进此类援助，以结束全球大流行。
＝＝＝
感觉这作者非常关切台湾的新闻，连新加坡医生的事情都知道。
我也记得当时政府不强调气溶胶传染，看了都捏把冷汗，
还好后来有改。
: 1.转录网址︰
: https://reurl.cc/EnvxG0
: 2.转录来源︰
: The Diplomat
: 3.转录内容︰
: 整段翻好累 我翻关键段就好惹
: 自己往下滑 感谢谷歌翻译大神
这篇大意就是：台湾如何在疫情爆炸后压下来
写得蛮简洁有力
看新闻的翻译 很多没讲到
所以我随便翻个大意(修文改一下翻译：第一段 之前翻太简略)
: During the pandemic, Taiwan went about business as usual. Schools were open, con
: certs were playing, theaters were packed. Restaurants were bustling, the economy
: was booming, and expatriates and overseas Taiwanese flooded into the island. Ta
: iwan was among a group of fortunate countries, including Australia, New Zealand,
: Vietnam, and Singapore, whose citizens went about business as usual as tight bo
: rders, strict quarantine rules, and excellent contract tracing kept the virus at
: bay.
疫情期间，台湾各行各业运作如常，学校有开，电影院塞满人。餐厅生意很好，
经济大发，外国人跟海外台湾人涌入台湾。
台湾是包含澳洲，新西兰，越南，新加坡等国的幸运的国家之一，
这些国家（含台湾），靠严格的边境管制，隔离规定，优越的疫调来防病毒。
: That enviable routine came to an end in mid-May 2021 when an outbreak of COVID-1
: 9 transmission upended everyday life. Yet, COVID-19 cases have fallen significan
: tly in recent days. New cases per day have fallen from 535 on May 17 to an avera
: ge of fewer than 20 in the past seven days. On July 26, Taiwan reported a new lo
: w of 10 cases of community transmission.
五月中却爆发了。但是成功的从最高一天535压到20以内，在7/26只剩10例社区传染。
: How did Taiwan suppress this wave of COVID-19 transmission, even as Australia, V
: ietnam, and Singapore are struggling with an uptick of the virus?
: First, Taiwan doubled down on longstanding strategies of masking, quarantine mea
: sures, and contact tracing. Long before this wave, as early as April 2020, Taiwa
: n had already instituted mask mandates on public transportation. The government
: extended the mask mandate to everybody on the island and required its citizens t
: o wear a mask outside their home.
连澳洲，越南，新加坡都辛苦的处理疫情升温的时候，
台湾是怎么压疫情的？
台湾强化了一些实行已久措施，例如戴口罩，隔离，疫调。
去年四月就强制大众运输戴口罩，出门也要戴口罩。
: Moreover, Taiwan extended its quarantine facilities for those entering the count
: ry from abroad to domestic COVID-19 patients. Many local governments began provi
: ding options for anyone testing positive to quarantine in a government-provided
: hotel or facility. The provision of quarantine facilities significantly reduced
: transmission of the virus within the family, thus reducing the number of cases i
: n the community.
台湾给入境的人扩充了隔离的设施， 地方政府给阳姓病人住政府提供的隔离所。
有效的减缓家庭内群聚，进而减少社区传染。
: Democratic Taiwan, in its attempt to maintain civil liberties, eschewed the more
: invasive phone-based surveillance technology used by countries in the region. I
: nstead, contact tracers leveraged the records of Taiwanese businesses who encour
: aged their patrons to leave their contacts either by writing them down on a piec
: e of paper or scanning a business-provided QR code from an app from their phones
: . While these records were imperfect, they still managed to reduce transmission
: rates in conjunction with universal masking and enhanced quarantine measures whi
: le maintaining a high level of civil liberties.
民主的台湾，为了维护公民的自由，刻意避免用电话监控系统，
取而代之的是让人民在进入营业场所时留个资，扫描QR code等等,
跟同区域的其他国家（中韩？）不同。
虽然这些资讯不一定完整，但配合强制口罩跟隔离政策，还是有效的压制感染率，
在此同时，还维护了高度的公民自由。
: Second, the Taiwanese government was willing to listen to critics and change its
: policies in fighting the pandemic. Taiwan emphasizes surface and droplet-based
: transmission of COVID-19 over the global consensus that the virus could be trans
: mitted through aerosols in poorly ventilated indoor spaces. Taiwanese authoritie
: s were reluctant to ban indoor dining in the early days of the outbreak, as they
: felt that measures such as social distancing and plexiglass installation would
: prevent transmission. However, after growing intervention from its diaspora and
: local expatriates who urged the government to restrict indoor activities, many l
: ocal governments eventually banned indoor dining and restricting indoor activiti
: es. Incidentally, the mayor of the southern port city of Kaohsiung led the way i
: n limiting indoor dining. His early move became critical in preventing any sprea
: d of the virus in Kaohsiung from Taipei and New Taipei City, which had substanti
: al community transmission. Some local governments have continued to ban indoor d
: ining partly for fear of criticism from voters, even though such a ban was lifte
: d recently by the central government as cases fell. Finally, the ruling DPP gove
: rnment supported the high-profile purchase of BioNTech vaccines from Germany via
: a mainland Chinese company by a former presidential hopeful in the rival Chines
: e Nationalist Party (KMT) after segments of the Taiwanese population expressed i
: nterest in obtaining those vaccines.
其次，台湾政府愿意听专家的意见。
比起现在世界公认的气溶胶传染途径，
台湾政府更重视防治接触传染跟飞沫传染，
所以一开始政府不想禁止室内用餐。
但是外籍专业人士呼吁政府要禁止室内活动（应该是说新加坡医生）
最终政府还是禁止了。
高雄市长在这上面是领头羊，他的提前部署，
对于让高雄不被双北疫情扩散影响有重要影响。
（这边应该是说一开始高雄的室内用餐群聚，但忘记是不是暖男先禁止的）
此外 在台湾人民表达想要买BNT后
DPP也支援了想代表反对党选总统的郭董，透过中国去买。
: Third, the Taiwanese people actively sought accountability from politicians in f
: ighting the pandemic. Fighting diseases became a marker for good governance in T
: aiwan’s modern history, beginning from the colonial period, where Japanese medi
: cal officers sought to eradicate infectious diseases to benefit the colonizers,
: to the more recent period, where Taiwanese health experts criticized politicians
: for being too slow and unprepared in dealing with the outbreak of the SARS viru
: s in 2003.
第三点，台湾人认为政府需要为防疫负起责任。
防疫防得好，象征著治理能力好，
（反观欧美...都不想被管）
这可以追溯到日治时代，日本的官员
想藉著消灭一些传染病，来帮助殖民政府。
2003的sars也被批评说政府太慢 准备不周 etc.
: In today’s context, the mayor of Taiwan, Ko Wen-je, has been chastised by media
: personalities, politicians, and voters for his relatively poor performance in f
: ighting the outbreak. They criticized Ko for not taking contact tracing and test
: ing seriously enough to contain localized outbreaks at markets, for failing to e
: stablish a proper vaccine distribution system, and pushing the blame for the per
: sistent community transmission on the ground to anyone but himself. Elected as a
: populist, the physician-turned-mayor saw his approval numbers for pandemic cont
: rol falling almost 7 percentage points from June to July 2021, the most signific
: ant fall among all mayors. Ongoing criticism has spurred Ko to accept the help o
: f medical experts from the CDC reluctantly. They have sought to improve anti-pan
: demic efforts on the ground with the assistance of the vice mayor of Taipei.
: 在今天的背景下，台湾市长柯文哲因抗击疫情表现相对不佳而受到媒体人士、政界人士和选
: 民的批评。 他们批评柯没有足够认真地进行接触者追踪和检测以控制市场上的局部爆发，
: 未能建立适当的疫苗分发系统，并将持续社区传播的责任推给除他之外的任何人。 当选为
: 民粹主义者后，这位医生出身的市长看到他的大流行控制支持率从 6 月到 2021 年 7 月下
: 降了近 7 个百分点，这是所有市长中降幅最大的一次。 持续的批评促使柯不情愿地接受了
: 疾控中心医学专家的帮助。 他们寻求在台北市副市长的协助下加强当地的抗疫工作。
: Fourth, Taiwan’s media played an understated role in fighting the pandemic. Tai
: wan’s free-wheeling media, which traces its origins to the democratization of t
: he media landscape in the 1990s, competed to provide the latest information on f
: ighting COVID-19 around the clock. Despite some outlets promoting vaccine hesita
: ncy through emphasizing alleged cases of deaths associated with WHO-approved vac
: cines, most television stations have modeled good behaviors in their broadcasts.
: Almost all variety shows and news programs have moved online or insisted that a
: ll guests and hosts wear masks and socially distance. These measures reflected t
: he seriousness of the Taiwanese media in fighting the pandemic and modeling appr
: opriate behaviors for their viewers, irrespective of their political leanings.
第四，台湾的媒体扮演着被低估的角色。
尽管有些媒体散播疫苗恐慌，
大部分的媒体不分颜色都做了很好的示范，
争相提供最新的防疫资讯，
几乎所有的综艺节目跟新闻都线上化，
不然就是强制来宾戴口罩，做社交距离等等。
（说到这 最近打开政论 发现口罩花色真多 还会跟衣服搭配）
: Fifth, Taiwan reaped the goodwill it sowed in the early days of pandemics. Taiwa
: n donated more than 51 million face masks to countries worldwide last year. Reci
: pient countries, in return, have gifted Taiwan precious vaccines during this out
: break, which the country struggled to obtain due to geopolitical reasons. Japan
: has given Taiwan more than 3.3 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccines, and the Un
: ited States has delivered 2.5 million doses of Moderna vaccines to Taiwan in the
: last two months. Lithuania, Slovenia, and Czechia have also pledged tens of tho
: usands of vaccines to Taiwan. With the vaccines it purchased from COVAX and the
: United States, Taiwan has inoculated 28 percent of its population with one dose
: of vaccine, a considerable leap from the 1 percent of the population before the
: most recent outbreak.
第五，台湾在疫情初期的善意得到回报。
因为地缘政治的关系，台湾买疫苗很辛苦，
台湾送口罩的国家回赠了疫苗，
所以在疫情爆发前到爆发后 疫苗覆蓋率大跃进。
: Taiwan’s success may not last, given the virulent Delta variant may breach Taiw
: an’s borders as it did in Australia, Vietnam, Singapore, and elsewhere. But its
: experiences, both near and far, should put the country in good stead in dealing
: with future outbreaks. Global health experts should consider how Taiwan has suc
: cessfully fought COVID-19 as a democracy, particularly in its incremental improv
: ements on testing, tracing, and isolation without significantly compromising fun
: damental freedoms and civil liberties.
台湾的成功未必能一直持续下去，
因为Delta很猛,台湾可能也会像新，越，澳一样被攻破,
但是台湾防疫的经验，不论从短期或长远来看，
对于处理未来可能的的爆发，都会有帮助。
国际的医疗专家，应该思考台湾是如何以一个民主政体的身份，成功的防疫，
特别是台湾在检测，疫调，隔离的措施是渐进式的，
不会对公民自由造成太大的牺牲。
: Despite criticism from the opposition party, the government’s willingness to sh
: are its homegrown vaccine, developed with the assistance of the U.S. National In
: stitutes of Health, has revealed Taiwan’s desire to be a responsible member of
: the global health community. Taiwan’s generosity in sharing masks, resources, a
: nd expertise reveals the urgency for Taiwan to be given an observer status in th
: e World Health Assembly. Taiwan can help, and the international health community
: should facilitate such assistance in order to end the global pandemic.
: 尽管遭到反对党的批评，但政府愿意分享在美国国立卫生研究院协助下开发的本土疫苗，这
: 表明台湾渴望成为全球卫生界负责任的一员。 台湾在分享口罩、资源和专业知识方面的慷
: 慨解囊，表明台湾获得世界卫生大会观察员地位的紧迫性。 台湾可以提供帮助，国际卫生
: 界应促进此类援助，以结束全球大流行。
＝＝＝
感觉这作者非常关切台湾的新闻，连新加坡医生的事情都知道。
我也记得当时政府不强调气溶胶传染，看了都捏把冷汗，
还好后来有改。
作者: kickthewall (none) 2021-07-29 16:38:00
推这篇，东森新闻的翻译不完整也不太到位
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:39:00
你信外媒都那么闲 一堆小事都知道
作者: tfct (小尼) 2021-07-29 16:39:00
气溶胶要长时间小空间共处像是飞机驾驶舱、飞行模拟机这种
作者: godispower (親愛的 .別鬧了) 2021-07-29 16:40:00
推
作者: rexqwer (阮朋) 2021-07-29 16:40:00
一堆外媒在台湾有办公室好吗
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 16:40:00
因为这不是普通外媒 这是专业的外交杂志
作者: tfct (小尼) 2021-07-29 16:41:00
除此以外的感染几乎都是亲密互动的接触
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的) 2021-07-29 16:41:00
因为这些外媒本来的据点在香港 自从反送中后那边加速一国一制 思想控制 自然都转来台湾或新加坡
作者: takase (............) 2021-07-29 16:41:00
孙世伦,新加坡出身的学者,跟台湾有点渊源
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:42:00
那陈时中自大怎没被提出来，超前部署吹牛怎不提出来，针对地方首长的外媒...
作者: truevines (￣ /) 2021-07-29 16:42:00
一定都是绿营侧翼杂志啦。外媒怎么可能这么了解台湾
作者: takase (............) 2021-07-29 16:43:00
作者: vincentkuo (甜瓜) 2021-07-29 16:43:00
作者写出很多台湾人都没注意到的细节 柯还说人家乱写一通
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:44:00
对阿。看谁利用外媒做大内选被抓到 还不就dpp被抓到过
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 16:44:00
台湾过度放松这点在疫情刚爆发时有不少外媒报导
作者: rexqwer (阮朋) 2021-07-29 16:44:00
说陈时中自大的 似乎不知道外国疫情多夸张 以台湾之前疫情 搞不好外国还觉得陈太谦虚了
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:44:00
买不到疫苗靠乞讨的可以美化成这样我也是醉了
作者: SPDY (Alex) 2021-07-29 16:44:00
原本在中或港的外媒 苗头实在不妙 当然会考虑离开
作者: fuhaho (fuhaho) 2021-07-29 16:45:00
所以美国说台湾疫情还好 一堆人不知在崩溃几点的
作者: rexqwer (阮朋) 2021-07-29 16:45:00
之前时代杂志有报导过台湾爆发吧 怎么那个时候就不是一堆外媒那么关心台湾了
作者: bruce2248 (moptt受害者) 2021-07-29 16:46:00
四趴去看红媒取暖啦
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:47:00
台媒对中国也不会嫌到整篇只针对地方首长，一定先检视权力最大的中央政府
作者: peterw (死神从地狱归来) 2021-07-29 16:47:00
推
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:47:00
口罩 隔离 疫调 哪一个环节被强化? 原本大众运输就得戴口罩五月中的暴发也没写原因 显然再帮忙涂脂抹粉
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:48:00
笑死。整篇好的都中央烂的都地方，有这种外媒
作者: kepf (被宠坏的猫奴) 2021-07-29 16:48:00
全台最烂县市首长还不能批评XD ，左转八卦新华社
作者: rexqwer (阮朋) 2021-07-29 16:49:00
针对地方首长 啊那个地方首长就烂啊 笑死
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 16:49:00
不要外国媒体帮DPP讲话就崩溃吧
作者: a0986188522 (a0986188522) 2021-07-29 16:49:00
4%去看央视环球好了
作者: fuhaho (fuhaho) 2021-07-29 16:49:00
眼睛没瞎的都看得出有个市长摆烂乱洨
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:49:00
一个外媒针对台湾的县市首长 然后捧另一个县市首长
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:50:00
老实说 郑州跟湖北湖南淹水 对我来说通通都是中国人死好
作者: kepf (被宠坏的猫奴) 2021-07-29 16:50:00
人家看台湾是跟全球比较 4%是在崩溃什么？ 县市首长当然就柯最差啊..
作者: Sheltis (榭尔提斯) 2021-07-29 16:50:00
外国杂志都变成4％眼中的绿共了喔？我看柯粉根本跟韩粉差不多程度嘛
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:50:00
菸粉连满意度最高的侯都能骂成废物一样有啥理性批评？
作者: iamdota (dota) 2021-07-29 16:50:00
推一个
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:51:00
台湾跟全球比较 然后特别讲县市首长 摆明就是提供的新闻稿
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 16:51:00
爱看五星杂志是不知道侯是比你家郑还强吗
作者: kepf (被宠坏的猫奴) 2021-07-29 16:52:00
5/6月不肯搞基础功只会发明名词乱搞 防疫记者会弄到布道大会..全台包含中央有像他这样？
作者: akway (生活就是要快乐) 2021-07-29 16:52:00
这是权威杂志 查证很详细 柯文哲扯后腿那段也完全没说错
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:52:00
还特别强调高雄好棒棒 难道是高雄首创不得市内用餐吗?
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 16:52:00
外交家杂志很多都很细节 这是外交人士会参考的
作者: rexqwer (阮朋) 2021-07-29 16:52:00
其他地方咧？ 那时候我光看街上就一堆没戴口罩的了 你拿那种单一地方的措施来比是怎样
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:53:00
媒体散波疫苗恐慌也很好笑 那好阿 有疫苗吗?够用吗?
作者: rexqwer (阮朋) 2021-07-29 16:53:00
这样就可以散播恐慌喔
作者: eyeter (诺亚方舟) 2021-07-29 16:54:00
“想代表反对党选总统的郭董”这段我笑了
作者: MVPGGYY (MVP) 2021-07-29 16:54:00
作者: cerberi (cerberi) 2021-07-29 16:54:00
推翻译不过对媒体 我不觉得值得那么高评价
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:55:00
今天不是针对杂志权威性 而是这篇报导多处错误 或许杂志权威
作者: rumsouffle (脑残小秘书) 2021-07-29 16:55:00
八卦版新华社 XD
作者: ggda (睾丸冰) 2021-07-29 16:56:00
但是文字内容有误或者是 政治误导企图强烈 就是老实提出来
作者: bbo9527 (elephant9527) 2021-07-29 16:56:00
八卦板可以看新华社跟亚洲杂志阿
作者: win8719 (win8719) 2021-07-29 16:56:00
他的疫苗恐慌是副作用吧跟数量没关系吧
作者: SODtaiwan (SOD台湾分部) 2021-07-29 16:58:00
当初防疫破功这杂志不是被8卦推的吗怎么称赞一下台湾政府 4%就气呼呼阿
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 16:59:00
对 忘了翻 是过度强调副作用事实就是 台湾爆发时很多该检讨的 但后来压下来也的确该称赞 就事论事啊@win8719 对 忘了翻 是说媒体过度强调副作用
作者: win8719 (win8719) 2021-07-29 17:01:00
所以这篇哪边政治误导企图强烈?或者内容有误?
作者: indium111 (#ttyhg) 2021-07-29 17:02:00
八卦版现在就一堆五毛，只相信红媒
作者: kepf (被宠坏的猫奴) 2021-07-29 17:02:00
事实高雄做得好 台北做的烂 难道4%只生活在八卦版？
作者: win8719 (win8719) 2021-07-29 17:02:00
这篇一开始的贴文只说称赞柯CF你怎没过去说政治误导强烈你说的政治误导强烈是他称赞了高雄不合你心意吧
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:05:00
挺绿：意识形态 反绿：正常人骂绿：公正客观 捧绿：政治误导
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的) 2021-07-29 17:07:00
dem不要太中肯 等等八卦跑来的4%又要崩溃
作者: Chen73 (Dr.73) 2021-07-29 17:07:00
避孕粉就真的只活在八卦版 请勿要求太多
作者: langeo (langeo) 2021-07-29 17:08:00
不过八卦一堆五毛 是柯粉=五毛 看不惯任何台湾的东西
作者: kadolong (kadolong) 2021-07-29 17:08:00
双北做的那么烂还能捧
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:08:00
这串的柯粉跟畜生一样没办法理性讨论，看某楼就知道
作者: win8719 (win8719) 2021-07-29 17:09:00
哪后外媒都有驻台湾记者为何不会这样闲.当媒体只会关注自己国家的状况吗..
作者: jt13 (MASTER) 2021-07-29 17:10:00
五星县市长菸粉都能选择骂人 一样等级有人就被骂成废物 还有脸讲自己多理性...
作者: win8719 (win8719) 2021-07-29 17:11:00
谁一样等级阿?照你的逻辑不是民调高就不能被骂了?
作者: serval623 (æ´›æ‰ç£¯å¼·å§¦äºº) 2021-07-29 17:13:00
尽管有些“支持柯文哲的”媒体散播疫苗恐慌，挺柯媒体像是柯天怎么造谣就不多说了
作者: ktpp 2021-07-29 17:14:00
唉，CF批不得啊，谤神者死
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的) 2021-07-29 17:14:00
https://reurl.cc/Lbx373不知道五星有谁 但柯肯定是最差那边的
作者: threemore (船到桥头至楠梓) 2021-07-29 17:15:00
高雄马上就控制下来，双北的疫情却迟迟无法清零。值得深思
作者: eupa1973 2021-07-29 17:16:00
推翻译
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:17:00
老招了 无法面对清楚知道绿色执政怎么乱搞
作者: lovegensokyo (神恋幻想乡) 2021-07-29 17:18:00
感谢习总加速师，一堆外媒的中文总部移到了台湾，除了让台湾曝光度大大增加，台湾人也能透过除了容易被渗透的中文媒体以外的视野来更客观的检视自己
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:18:00
只好买海外媒体瞎捧或抹黑 反正南部农民只要知道"美国"或"日本"某"大报"有报 就80%相信了
作者: RommelLee (股海沙漠的狐狸) 2021-07-29 17:18:00
推翻译，似乎看到4%柯粪悲愤到处喷屎
作者: lovegensokyo (神恋幻想乡) 2021-07-29 17:19:00
对啦对啦，亚洲周刊最屌，其他都野鸡杂志绿营侧翼
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:19:00
反正用来洗给绿色信徒用的 无法用中文诚恳面对台湾人时 就爱找英文或日文报章来糢糊问题
作者: langeo (langeo) 2021-07-29 17:20:00
贱畜气噗噗 我们只信阿北跟亚洲周刊
作者: lovegensokyo (神恋幻想乡) 2021-07-29 17:20:00
亚洲周刊最诚恳，人民日报最真实
作者: holysong (猴力送) 2021-07-29 17:20:00
柯粪崩溃，好夸张不能批评
作者: yun0112 (Yun) 2021-07-29 17:21:00
禁止室内用餐我记得是台中先开始
作者: abaddon (abaddon) 2021-07-29 17:22:00
为什么高雄随便就清零，而台北就一直有人确诊，市长差距啊
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:22:00
畜生柯粉就是畜生啊，你看楼上那几个畜生，只想舔柯文哲懒叫而已，哪听得到人话
作者: yun0112 (Yun) 2021-07-29 17:23:00
高雄最近也有旅馆王了，希望能顺利结束这波QQ
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:23:00
然后又顺带战南北，你就知道畜生柯文哲养出来的狗素质就是这样，我干你娘柯粉，干你娘柯文哲
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:24:00
台北也是运气不好 但最难打的仗却最摆烂
作者: FishJagor (FishJagor) 2021-07-29 17:24:00
推翻译，然后柯韩粉好像看到台湾被赞美都会很生气呢
作者: mocca000 (优质妹文制造机) 2021-07-29 17:25:00
我自己是台湾人 还不清楚有呼吁气溶胶那段脉络今天看了国外报纸才知道
作者: FishJagor (FishJagor) 2021-07-29 17:25:00
但CF自己投稿夸自己和北市买广告，都视而不见不觉得是大内宣了
作者: langeo (langeo) 2021-07-29 17:26:00
这记者对台湾观察的满仔细的 连谁是畜生在恶搞都知道
作者: holysong (猴力送) 2021-07-29 17:27:00
推翻译，整篇看下来，详细报导台湾的防疫现状
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:27:00
我个人非常想知道 陈时中部长个人投稿的那篇
作者: photoshark (photoshark) 2021-07-29 17:27:00
蠢狗又在吠了
作者: FishJagor (FishJagor) 2021-07-29 17:30:00
笑死！疫情都一年多了！没有国际观不去看外媒不去了解其他国家疫情状况，看到外媒赞美台湾就直觉认为是大内宣，实际上台湾就真的做的很好
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:30:00
@mecca000 气溶胶在国外变成防疫sop 但台湾一开始爆炸时好像还是着重在传统的接触跟飞沫 所以被骂说太过时未来台湾可能被delta进攻 气溶胶传播更猛
作者: FishJagor (FishJagor) 2021-07-29 17:31:00
这段期间海外台湾人看到国内一堆刁民巨婴整天哭夭真的很不爽
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:31:00
不知道台湾要不要强化口罩 像是推立体口罩或外面套布口罩
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:32:00
破口以后 台湾全民配合帮执政党擦屁股 这点是做很好
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:32:00
外国防疫各种狗屁倒灶 台湾相对之下算表现超好
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:33:00
问题3+11那种破口错误 民进党敢讲出已经"尽人事"
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:33:00
哪国的防疫不要人民配合 只要政府忙就好？去住你的火星吧
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:33:00
干你娘柯文哲，干你娘柯粉
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:34:00
直接干你娘柯文哲操你柯粉回他们就好，畜生
作者: fxntdsxdr 2021-07-29 17:34:00
反正是地方的锅就对了
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:35:00
万华病毒和诺富特病毒株 定序后100%一样 考虑传染时
作者: holysong (猴力送) 2021-07-29 17:35:00
就小缺点放大扣99分，中国、越南最近又爆发了，他们官员是不是该自杀
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:36:00
粉饰太平咧 告诉我世界有几个国家没被疫情重创的真的过很爽
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:36:00
CDC都承认 万华=3+11 诺富特破口 陈时中都愿意扛下这3+11破口的责任 还想粉饰什么我只对台湾人自己选的政府监督 别国关我屁事
作者: holysong (猴力送) 2021-07-29 17:37:00
干cdc 该请三狗去当防疫专家，他最行
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:37:00
比烂不会进步!!
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:38:00
万华第一个人是4/23发病 告诉我机师怎么提前传进去啦现在还搞不清诺富特=/=3+11的 拜托不要秀下限了
作者: win8719 (win8719) 2021-07-29 17:38:00
你怎会想跟3GO讨论..
作者: mukuro (把梦变为现实) 2021-07-29 17:38:00
推文蚵粪滚啦，在这边喷屎，妈的臭死了
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:39:00
诺富特管理不善谁得错 谁给诺富特允许他可以3+11
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:39:00
不要跟柯粉畜生认真
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:40:00
他们只会舔柯文哲跟国民党而已
作者: cohungogogo (柯夯) 2021-07-29 17:40:00
一堆逻辑有洞的手下败将 拿出证据和真理来讨论巴做不到 最起麻要懂得诚恳倒歉
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 17:41:00
畜生没办法听懂人话，我干你娘柯文哲
作者: sanguinesand (大根君) 2021-07-29 17:45:00
万华如果不是靠CDC把发病日往后延 病例还比诺富特早
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:45:00
乖 都说诺富特的错了 怎么还会提3+11
作者: z1976 (z1976) 2021-07-29 17:45:00
这就是4%眼里没看到的真实世界啊
作者: boogieman (Let the Right One In) 2021-07-29 17:46:00
三狗又在自慰了 真难看啊 别这样精神战胜法好吗?
作者: z1976 (z1976) 2021-07-29 17:47:00
人家看到的就是在缺疫苗的情况下把确诊数压下来相较国外扎实的疫调、口罩政策还是在不用牺牲人身自由的情况下完成的
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 17:49:00
相对于欧美 台湾还是管很多 但以亚洲国家来说ok了
作者: RadioMan (电台男) 2021-07-29 17:49:00
狗杂种五毛见不得台湾好
作者: suntw (主序星) 2021-07-29 17:52:00
新加坡医生是被夸大，政府怎会鸟一个外国医生说什么，当初还叫台湾立刻停班停课封城
作者: nalthax (书虫一枚) 2021-07-29 17:54:00
推、谢谢
作者: ferb (ferb) 2021-07-29 17:55:00
这篇批评柯的那些不是就是林大便说的吗
作者: WTF55665566 (来乱的) 2021-07-29 17:55:00
某三只狗就不用理了XD 被打脸王
作者: ferb (ferb) 2021-07-29 17:56:00
中央政府好棒棒会听民众意见，连买疫苗也是哦而柯就是不疫调不检测疫苗分配系统不好我咧去，这还用看吗
作者: lbowlbow (沉睡的小猫) 2021-07-29 17:57:00
气溶胶好像是英国变种后才开始说的吧
作者: ferb (ferb) 2021-07-29 17:57:00
亏我还想耐心看完原文批评的那些不就是侧翼和大便再造谣的吗还敢提市场感染，多久前的案例被大便和侧翼拿出来吓人的
作者: tyf99 (呵呵) 2021-07-29 18:03:00
哈哈...槟榔粉超气
作者: ferb (ferb) 2021-07-29 18:04:00
气溶胶中国早提了那时候这边还在笑呢
作者: michaelkobe (荒人邪影) 2021-07-29 18:14:00
柯粉气到语无伦次耶XDDD
作者: wensjeng23 (cute man) 2021-07-29 18:14:00
怎么又有柯粪蓝白渣在叫？
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-29 18:17:00
气溶胶一开始被认为机率不大所以不是防疫重点不过变种病毒后机率又提升了
作者: KTFGU (kitty) 2021-07-29 18:18:00
哈哈哈。蟑螂气到崩溃
作者: ferb (ferb) 2021-07-29 18:18:00
还有人家反对明显是不要拿二期疫苗去送人这里简化为反对疫苗援外真是好棒棒的英文啊
作者: swbthj (swbthj) 2021-07-29 18:20:00
柯韩粪崩溃
作者: ferb (ferb) 2021-07-29 18:22:00
这文章作者这么熟悉情况，怎么会这样造句呢，这样造句也是没关系，还特别强调是和美国卫生院合作我怎么感觉和侧翼喜欢避重就轻一样
作者: rainfarmer (伴蓝比翼鸟) 2021-07-29 18:25:00
其实去看法文新闻还比看英文贴近台湾现实。可怜的4趴只能看洗脑新华中天走不出真实华人之外的世界
作者: fragmentwing (片翼碎梦) 2021-07-29 18:27:00
想代表反对党选总统是过去式了吧被搞那么惨自己底下有参与的高端还被狂黑没有这么热脸贴冷屁股的吧
作者: quiet93 (台大云嘉传真情^^ NＩ
谢谢翻译
作者: iconicotrico (Agro) 2021-07-29 18:47:00
帮补
作者: q12341234 (code blake) 2021-07-29 19:02:00
互助不是乞讨 懂？支那5毛同路人住郑州 死无人知
作者: diamond0326 (alan) 2021-07-29 19:18:00
推特满满三民自 才说得出支援果冻跟台积 哄堂大笑
作者: AAPL (NASDAQ:AAPL) 2021-07-29 19:18:00
柯韩粉外媒只能信支那官媒了
作者: vicklin 2021-07-29 19:31:00
陈时中交出这种绩效还要被亏，只能说台湾人惯老板
作者: luvfilm (luvfilm) 2021-07-29 19:44:00
对4%来说环球、央视才是有可信度的外媒啦
作者: theropod (theropod) 2021-07-29 20:04:00
不爽那个杂志的~快去投稿出征阿
作者: lbowlbow (沉睡的小猫) 2021-07-29 20:22:00
真的每个台湾鲷民都有一颗惯老板的心
作者: Stelle (今夜星光灿烂) 2021-07-29 20:23:00
推翻译 辛苦了～
作者: dlevel (府城ä¸è¥¿é‡Œèœ) 2021-07-29 20:23:00
怎么会用轻蔑的语气这样讲农民，你家的米饭难道是自己种的？
作者: s910443tw (CHUBBY) 2021-07-29 20:27:00
楼上，你才知道柯粉蓝教徒多畜生多智障
作者: yinling0105 2021-07-29 20:47:00
没朋友的嫉妒有朋友的 到处说人乞讨XDDD
作者: suny921 (熊大) 2021-07-29 20:53:00
八挂版一下大推外交家 一下大嘘 谁用钱买网军 太明显
作者: conanhide (让生命尽情歌唱) 2021-07-29 21:23:00
死守delta.再被破一次国门，身为817也支持不下去了
作者: WLM531 2021-07-29 21:32:00
看到柯韩粪崩溃就是舒服
作者: MayDayFebrua (渊) 2021-07-29 22:01:00
推
作者: valentian (无聊) 2021-07-29 23:57:00
被相信的就是事实XD做外交真的很重要
作者: iecdalu 2021-07-30 00:18:00
柯韩粉这篇素质一览无遗，讲些为反对而反对的白痴言论
作者: yougenmi (风尘游子) 2021-07-30 00:41:00
记得某新加坡医生不是说台湾防疫政策没用要像中国那样封城才行....
楼主: demitri (forever) 2021-07-30 02:35:00
其他模范生delta都被破了 以为守住很容易喔台湾人惯老板无误