※ 引述《CallMeDavid (军神上杉谦信)》之铭言:
: 回去看了一次影片
: 只能说 这篇风向带得很弱
: 黑人问题你只说了前半部
: 后半部是
: "我们可以谁都不投
: 所以你必须说服我们让我们愿意出来投你"
: 拜登首先直接直接回应
: 年轻世代的黑人 不管男女 他们的选票可以做出改变
: 再来回应 我怎么样可以赢得你的选票
: 说了一堆blah blah blah blah他为黑人做的事
: 这边不多说 有兴趣可以点开影片
: 重点来了
: 可能回答得太长 主持人直接打断拜登
: 问了年轻人
: "你有得到你需要的答案吗"
: 黑人年轻人 点点头 说有
: 人家提问人都说满意了 你在那边帮他喊烧
: 拜登最后还跟黑人补充 如果你想知道更多
: 结束之后留在现场 我再跟你分享
: 黑人点头回答 没问题
去他的...送上原影片,下面有逐字稿:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvv5upecGOE
怕我翻的烂所以直接附原文,翻译的部分尽量不带Bias,
按的地方是我的注解(含bias),不喜可跳过
然后听拜登讲话好痛苦...
CallMeDavid
DustToDust
donkilu
MarioBro
peter080808
clifflee
mecheer
啊上一篇带风向不是很爽? 敢不敢来打我脸?
等你哦~
逐字稿开始:
Moderator:"From Cedric Humphrey he's a student from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania,
progressive democrat."
主持人:"提问者是Cedric Humphrey,宾州Harrisburg大学学生,进步派民主党人。
Biden:"Don't jump, Cedric. You look like you're way up there."
Cedric:"Thank you George, and good evening former vice-president Biden.
Many people believe that the true swing demographic will be the black voters
under the age of 30, not because they'll be voting for Trump, but because
they won't vote at all. I myself have this exact same conflict.
So my question for you that is, 'besides you ain't black, what do you have to
say to young voters who see voting for you as furthure participation in a
system that continually fails to protect them?'"
"问题: 除了你不是黑人外,你有什么想对年轻(黑人)选民说?
他们认为投给你等于继续参与一个持续失败无法捍卫他们的体系。"
Biden:"Well, I say, first of all my buddy John Lewis said it's a sacred
oppertunity right to vote you can make a difference. If young black women and
men vote you can determine the outcome of this election. Not a joke, you can
do that.
"如果年轻黑人男女去投票,你们可以左右这场选举结果。不开玩笑,你们可以。"
And the next question is am I worthy your vote? Can I earn your vote?
And the answer is, there's two things I think that I care, and I've
demonstrated I care about my whole career.
One is in addition to dealing with a criminal justice system to make it
fair and make it more decent, we have to be able to put black Americans to...
gain wealth, to generate wealth.
"下个问题,我值不值得你们的票?
答案是我觉得我很注重、在我职涯中也显露出我很注重两件事-
其一是除了把犯罪矫治系统处理的更公平更像样,我们必须能够把黑人去赚钱、去生钱"
(按:为什么讲Put不讲Let? 有种把黑人当资产还是物件的感觉...
Let black people to be able to gain wealth, 让黑人能赚钱,不是更通顺? Orz)
And so you look at what it entails, and entails everything from early
education, that's why I'm supporting making sure that we
entitle one schools, as you know schools with the least tax base, to be able
to support their schools. I increase the funding for them form 15 to uh...
45 billion dollars that allows every teacher in that school to make up to
60,000 bucks, and the problem now is they're leaving the schools,
they're not there. We're short about a million and a half teachers,
a million and a quater teachers.
"而当你看这需要什么,需要一切从早期教育...那也是为什么我支持确保我们批准一种
学校,如你所知税基很低的学校,能够支持他们的学校。我把资金从150亿提高到450亿,
并让那个学校的每个老师都能赚到至少60,000块,然后现在的问题是他们正在离开学校,
他们不在那里。我们有150万、125万的师资短缺。"
(按:需要一切从早期教育...只讲了教育,啊其他的咧?
资金部分不熟,但是125万个师资短缺会不会太扯?这不是钱的问题是师资培育的问题吧?)
"Number two, every three and four and five-year-old will go to school. School,
not daycare, school with all the great universities including the one you've
gone to, go to or went to. In fact, talks about in the last eight years what's
happened? What's happened when you let them go to school? They make up rapidly
that whatever...whatever um... fail... whatever shortcoming they had in terms
of their education prior to that. They've have not heard as many words etc etc.
What happens is that the studies show that 58% will increase by 58% their
chance to going all through 12 years of school and going through successfully,
also provide for the ability to bring in social workers and school
psychologist."
"第二,每个三岁四岁五岁小孩都要上学。去学校,不是托儿所,去包含大学的校园上课,
包含你以前读过的、正在就读的、曾经就读过的。事实上,说到过去八年来发生什么事?
你让他们上学会发生什么事? 他们进步神速,无论上学前的教育有什么...什么...失败...
什么短处。例如没有听过一样多单字之类。研究指出58%会增加58%的人能度过12年国教,
成功的度过,并证明有能力引入社工与学校心理师。"
(按:这段翻得很痛苦,我不知是英文能力若还是拜登的句子结构问题大...
58%的黑人能从12年国教毕业,挺低的;
然后后面似乎是想说让社工与心理师进入校园能提高黑人平安度过学校岁月的机会?
最后...叫三岁小孩上学,还要大学参一咖...拜登你喜咧工三小!?)
We have 1 school psychologist in America now for every 1507 kids, it should
have been 1 to 500. Not just in schools that are poor, but in all schools.
Because we learned that, for exemple, drug abuse dosen't cause mental illness,
mental illness causes drug abuse. The failure to get hold of people and deal
with their anxieties.
美国现在心理师与学生比是1:1507,这比率应该要是1:500。这不只是穷学校,是所有
学校的问题。因为我们学到那个,举例来说,药物滥用不是心理疾病的成因,是心理疾
病导致药物滥用。无法掌握人们并解决他们的焦虑就是失败。
In addition to that I provide 70 billion dollars for
HBCUs for them to have the wherewithal to do what other universities can do,
because they have... they don't have the kind of fundational support they need.
And so that would allow them for example like we did in our administration,
the president allowed me to go down and we awarded a cyber security laboratory
ability to compete for a cyber security federal government spends billions
dollars a year. And universities because they are the best kept secret or most
of the major inventions come out of. And so, that school now will be able to
produce young black women and men, who are going to go into a field of the
future that's burgeoning. Cyber securities! That's gonna help in a great deal.
除此之外,我提供700亿美元给传统黑人大学,让他们有必要的资金去做其他大学能做的
事,因为他们有...没有所需的财政支援。这能让他们,举例来说,在我们执政时总统让
我南下,我们奖励了一间大学的资安实验室,他们有达到联邦年花几亿美元资安实验室的
实力。而大学,因为他们是最会守住秘密与达成最多重大发明的地方。因此,那间学校
现在能培育年轻黑人男女,进入一向蓬勃发展的领域。资讯安全!那能帮到大忙。
In addition of that, if you are a young man about to graduate or you graduated
from school, and you wanna own your first home and you're... well, it's awful
hard to get the money and depending on the background where...what...wh...
Excuse me. Your economic background is, to get it down the payment. So we're
going to garantee first term home buyers a 15,000 dollars down payment.
For first term home buyers!
除此之外,如果你是个即将毕业或者已经毕业的年轻人,你想要拥有第一个家...
你会非常难以凑到足够的钱,取决于背景那个...那...不好意思,你的经济背景,
去付头期款。所以我们保证首次购房的人都能获得15,000美元的头期款,
只有初次购房的人有!
(按:终于讲到教育以外的东西了...
为什么这段听起来像政策买票+广告?
然后这个购屋政策是只限黑人还是其他族裔也有?)
In addition that all the studies now show and I've been arguing this for a
long time is young black entrepreneur are just as successful as white
entrepreneur or anyone else give them a shot! But you can't get the money!
Where do you go to get the startup money? So president Obama and I did, we
had a program, we took a billion five hundred million dollars, and we
invested them in all the SBAs in all around the country, in the small SBA-
small business associations. And that generated 30 billion dollars come
off the sidelines. Because if you have a guarantee of two hundred thousand
dollars for your new starup enterprise, young entrepreneur, you're going to
be able to attract, if it's government money as a guarantee, you'll be able
to attract another 100,000 dollars.It generate 30 billion. Well I'm changing
that program and get this done, without much of a trouble I believe in the
cogress, from uh...from 15...uh 1.5 million dollars to 30 billion dollars,
to 30 billion dollars. That'll take 300 billion dollars from sideline and
grow.
"除此之外,所有研究都指出、我多年来也主张,年轻的黑人企业家可以跟白人企业家
一样成功,只要有人给他们机会! 但你弄不到钱!你要去哪里弄创业基金?所以欧巴马
总统与我搞了一个方案,我们投资15亿资金给遍布全国的SBA们,投进小型SBA-中小
企业协会。这个方案产出了300亿的额外产值。因为只要确保二十万元的创业基金,
年轻企业家,你就可以招来,若是有政府资金当后盾,你就可以招来额外十万元。
这达成了300亿。现在我要改革这个方案,相信国会也会顺利支持,从15...1.5百万
追加到300亿,300亿美元。这将会创造3兆美元的产值并继续成长。
(按:不确定Sidelines怎么翻...
然后到底是15亿还是150万?现在要一口气投入300亿?
最后,是否先叫BLM不要骚扰黑人社区,让他们能稳定做生意?)
Because you know, for example, if you in fact and I were at the same
age and we split our difference and we were the same age, and we went to the
same builder to buy us each a same home. But my home was in a white neighbor-
hood on one side of the highway and yours is in a black neighborhood, same
exact home! Your home will start off being valued 29% less than my home, yet
your insurance for that home would be higher. You'll be taxed more for it.
We've got to end this. That's got me involve in the politics in the first
place, the thing called redlining. We can change so much, that we can do so
much to change the circumstances, to get the people a real opportunity...
"因为你知道,举例来说,如果你跟我一样年龄、撇除一切不同且同龄,跟一样的建商
买一模一样的房子。但我的房子会在高速公路一端的白人社区、你的房子会在黑人社区
一模一样的房子! 你的房子的初始价值会比我的少29%、但你的保费会比我的还高、你会
被课比较重的税!我们必须结束这些! 这就是促使我参政的原因,所谓的差别待遇。
我们可以改变好多,我们可以改变结局,给予人们真正的机会...(被打断)_
Moderator:"Cedric, did you hear what you need to hear?"
Cedric:"I think so..."
(按:礼貌又不失尴尬地微笑...)
Moderator:"OK."
Biden:" There's a lot more if you want to... if you're going to hang around
afterwards, I'll tell you more."
"我还有好多要讲,如果你想听的话,如果你之后想待久一点我可以告诉你更多。"
Cedric:"Okay, let's..."
"疴...好,那我们...(被打断)"
Biden:"But I really mean it! It is a key! Look! This is the way every other...
How do most, like my dad, he lost job up in Scranton. And it took him three
year to be able to move down to Delaware to Claymont steel town, and send us
home to our grandpa to live with him. We finally got back we live in apartm-
ents become six and eight housing much later, it wasn't just normal apartmants.
And, but it took him five years to be able to buy a home! Well, we bought a
three bedroom home with four kids and a grandpa living with us.
But it accumulate wealth! You build up wealth! That's how middle-class folks
make it: they build up wealth. And he was about to borrow a little agaist that
to be able to help us get to school, those kind of things.
"我是认真的!这就是关键!看啊! 这就是所有其他...像我爸的多数人如何,他在Scranton
失去工作、花了三年的时间才搬去德拉瓦州的Claymont钢都,把我们送去阿公家跟他住。
我们终于团圆时住在一间公寓,之后变成6-8间housing,不只是一般的公寓。
然后我们花了五年的时间才有能力负担一间房子,我们买了栋三间房间的房子,住进四个
小孩与一位阿公一起同住。但这累积财富!你建立起财富! 这就是中产阶级怎么做的,
他们建立财富。然后我爸差不多借了点钱让我们能上学,类似那种事情。
(按:你说自己的生平故事和Cedric的问题有关吗?
Cedric已经听得好累了说...)
It's about accumulating wealth, and it's very, you're behind the an eightball.
A vass majority of people of color are behind an eightball. And it's the same
way what's going on now with all this money that's been voted.
What's happened, you go into a bank if you're a black businessman, and I and
the president fired the only inspector general to see or oversee all this help
coming from the congress. And what happened? You go in and they say do you
have an account here? No. Do you have a credit cards with us? No.
Do you have borrow from us before? No. We bill these suckers out! They are not
liable with any of the money. But they still won't rant it, they still won't
lent it to you. We gotta change that! It's about accumulating wealth!
"一切都是累积财富,然后真的很...你们状况不好,大多数有色人们的情况都不妙。
这就是一直以来这么发生的,这么多钱被这样分配。
会发生什么事?如果你是个黑人企业家,进了一间营行。而我、而总统把唯一的检查总长给
Fire掉,来看看或监督所有来自国会的协助。
(jennya大认为是指川普fire掉金融方面的检查总长,
"然后因为川普总统开除了唯一一个负责监督国会收了哪些资金援助的监察官")
然后发生什么事?你走进去,他们问你:
'你有帐户吗? 没有' '你有在我们这办卡吗? 没有' '你有跟我们借贷吗? 没有',
我们给了这些混蛋钱! 这些钱他们不用负责! 但他们依旧不愿意借出来、依旧不肯贷给
你们! 我们必许做出改变! 这全部都是为了"累积财富"!
(再按:感谢jenna大的指教,然后睡了一觉终于比较能搞懂拜登这段想说啥了...
jennya版:"我们国会从这些废物身上拿了钱!这些钱的负债不是算在他们头上,但他们还
是不想借钱给你。我们必须改变这点!关键就在于“财富累积”!")
(再按:原来behind eightball, money vote都是词组...Orz,
感谢jennya大大的指教:https://wtools.io/paste-code/b2qi )
心得:
我活着打完这篇了,为了对照前前后后看了好几遍,参照youtube字幕...
搞了好几个小时...
然后Cedric好可怜啊! 我靠影片慢慢看、反刍、还有暂停休息,
他直接被拜登画大饼疲劳轰炸了四分钟,连主持人都看不下去打圆场,
本来觉得结束了如释重负,结果拜登继续接着讲...
然后我觉得拜登整个搞错点...
Cedric的问题重点有两个:
1.You ain't black 真的有伤到年轻黑人族群的支持度
2.年轻黑人族群觉得拜登这个老政客只代表一个失败的旧体制
Cedric想要的答案很简单,弥补You ain't black,然后说服年轻人投拜登,
结果拜登拼命提他当年跟欧巴马总统怎样怎样、然后要加码欧氏政策、
最后提起当年勇,完全搞错重点...