[心情] 柯医师争议文章摘要中文翻议

楼主: oberon1013 (ç ´420了.)   2014-11-21 21:05:38
Both family consent and legal consent were required for organ/tissue
donation from non-heart-beating donors (NHBD) in Taiwan.
取得家属与法律同意
(P.S. NHBD和现在各位键盘医师认定的移植条件不是同一群人,
这些人是不用判脑死的)
A district attorney had to come to the bedside to confirm the donor's asystole,
confirm the family consent, and complete some legal documents before a legal
consent was issued for organ donation.
要等到检察官到场确认患者已无心跳,有家属同意与相关法律文件
The resultant warm ischemic time would be unpredictably long and in fact
precluded the organ donation from NHBD in Taiwan.
在台湾这些无谓的时间浪费是难以预测的久, 而且阻碍了部份器官移植的可能
We developed a method of using extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO)
to maintain NHBD for a longer time and prevent warm ischemic injury of the
donor abdominal organs.
因此,我们发展出一个方法,在这个等待期能防止器官衰败
After ventilator disconnection in NHBD, phentolamine and heparin were
injected and mannitol infusion was given.
拔掉呼吸器后,打phentolamine, heparine, mannitol
After the donor's asystole was confirmed by the electrocardiogram (EKG)
strip recording, the ECMO support was set up through the right femoral
veno-arterial route,
由心电图确认捐赠者已无心跳,开始放置ECMO
an occlusion balloon catheter was inserted through the left femoral artery
to occlude the thoracic aorta, and bilateral femoral arteries were ligated.
放入一个阻隔气球到左股动脉(左下肢最大动脉), 完全阻挡胸主动脉的血,并将双侧
股动脉的结扎掉(指远端)
(P.S. 前几篇有键盘医师回说这是IABP用来保护心脏的, 我快笑死了,
想回打脸文之前,连柯医师的paper都不看,你们也认真点好吗?)
Usually, the ECMO could begin within 10 min after the donor's asystole.
通常我们只需10分钟可搞定
The ECMO, combined with a cooler, provided cold oxygenated blood to the
abdominal visceral organs,and prevented their warm ischemic injuries.
Under the ECMO support (range: 45-70 min), eight renal grafts were procured
from 4 NHBD.
点点点ECMO的好处
With the exception of the first two renal grafts with delayed function, all
others had immediate function postoperatively and dialysis was no
longer needed.
我们这个方法在器官移植成功上的介绍
In conclusion, by our ECMO technique, NHBD could be maintained for a longer
time and the renal grafts had better immediate postoperative function than
those reported by other methods.
结论, 使用ECMO可以在 NHBD患者上维持器官新鲜度更久.
作者: Ofnir   2014-11-21 21:06:00
通过审稿还标明争议文章...?
作者: arsonlolita (XJ87)   2014-11-21 21:07:00
抓到了!请柯p退选!!
楼主: oberon1013 (ç ´420了.)   2014-11-21 21:07:00
1F你真的懂什么叫paper, paper就是还不能写入教科书
作者: HydeTseng (H.T)   2014-11-21 21:07:00
真的 记得叫KMT紧咬到11/29喔
作者: Ofnir   2014-11-21 21:07:00
现在就是说捐器官的程序是违法的 以后台湾请别等器官了除了这次选举的立委 这15年了 经历多少次检验的叫争议?另外我自己是学术界的 你在跟我谈懂paper??!!
作者: larusa (最爱小熊宝贝)   2014-11-21 21:09:00
放心 医师不会知道某些人当初跳出来替垃圾党的垃圾立委
作者: Ofnir   2014-11-21 21:09:00
别搞得这样low...
作者: Narusawayui (鸣泽唯)   2014-11-21 21:10:00
最后会变成修法...是吧?
作者: larusa (最爱小熊宝贝)   2014-11-21 21:10:00
赞声的 真要生病至少还有 "只坏一半"的器官可以用
作者: DaringDo (天马无畏)   2014-11-21 21:11:00
原PO想呛一楼结果失败 GG
作者: jerry000121 (YoYO)   2014-11-21 21:16:00
是说你只拿abstract来看是要干么?
作者: ericial (我超爱我的bebe)   2014-11-21 21:17:00
怎么不翻个全文瞧瞧
作者: jerry000121 (YoYO)   2014-11-21 21:17:00
你的争议是苏、廖、费认定的争议吧XD
作者: iceonly (只有冰)   2014-11-21 21:19:00
所以各种什么秀下限狂丢票的说法,实际上是加分的
作者: jerry000121 (YoYO)   2014-11-21 21:20:00
你真的让人很怀疑是不是医师欸呵呵,训练都假的吗
作者: tortoise1017 (ChihYun)   2014-11-21 21:21:00
@@~那脑死判断下了没?Paper没说是未脑死
作者: tehao0922 (阿皓)   2014-11-21 21:32:00
因为我不是很熟这一块部分,所以我想问一下我记得以前要捐赠器官,是要在捐赠者在脑死的情况下才能捐赠,所以像是之前死刑犯想要捐赠器官,一定是打头
作者: tortoise1017 (ChihYun)   2014-11-21 21:34:00
Paper并未写是否脑死,是黑函爆料说是未脑死
作者: tehao0922 (阿皓)   2014-11-21 21:34:00
而不是打心脏,我想确认的事,现在有争议的部份到底是未脑死就搞了,还是说是已经脑死了,才做后续动作
作者: tortoise1017 (ChihYun)   2014-11-21 21:35:00
刚刚三立有在讨论,黑函爆料未脑死=>立委拿paper当証据,但Paper并不是在讲未脑死案例
作者: jerry000121 (YoYO)   2014-11-21 21:36:00
规定是脑死才能开,但有些状况无法判定脑死
作者: tortoise1017 (ChihYun)   2014-11-21 21:41:00
有点乱,好像是他们把Paper和黑函连在一起所有会有说不清的感觉
作者: jerry000121 (YoYO)   2014-11-21 21:43:00
但供不应求,所以就试着去使用无心跳患者的器官这类患者是需要强心剂或维生装置才能活的,一拿掉就马上掰了。那柯p等人在家属都同意下将维生系统拔除,并用ECMO去维持器官的新鲜以防坏掉苏清泉他们在质疑说医师不能这样为了摘器官使病人死亡
作者: tortoise1017 (ChihYun)   2014-11-21 21:48:00
嗯,所以paper本身没问题,但有人把它和黑函联在一起
作者: jerry000121 (YoYO)   2014-11-21 21:49:00
我初略看了一下苏跟廖的质疑大致是这样,有错指正
作者: tortoise1017 (ChihYun)   2014-11-21 21:49:00
就变成"强摘未脑死器官"
作者: thomaspig (沈猪)   2014-11-21 23:10:00
这是"国际期刊" 不是路边小conference 会过就是没争议

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