[问卦] reddit:台湾人没想像中的友善 职场很可怕

楼主: usnavyseal (usmarine2008)   2023-04-17 21:11:59
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刚看reddit 台湾版
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有网友问
是什么让台湾人友善
What makes taiwanese people friendly?
从小有被灌输什么人生哲学吗
Is there an underlying philosophy taught since young?
网友回答
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作为一个外国人,台湾有很“好客”的文化,超出我待过的其他地方
人们很慷慨,愿意花钱或花时间帮我,并拒绝回报,只表示“以后在你的国家招待我吧”
As a foreign visitor I've found Taiwan has a strong "hospitality" culture,
more than anywhere else I've visited. People have been generous both spending
their time to help out or show me round but also spent money and refused to
let me pay them back. They just said "if I ever visit your country, you can
do the same for me".
很多人忽略了,好客很棒,人们友善地帮你
在职场上完全相反,很多同事超级没安全感
会尽力让他们自己看上去比你好,没有团队精神
That's the thing people seem to miss. Hospitality is great, where people are
supposed to be friendly they tend to go over and above what you get in other
places.
The corporate environment is not like that at all, completely opposite where
a lot of them are super insecure and will do everything they can them look
better than you. Not team players at
有时候在这里生活 精神上有很大压力,让我觉得这里有很多双面人,在公开场合很假
台湾人在职场和公开场合是两种不同的经验
每个国家都有“很假的人”,但我觉得台湾人在公开场合的友善过誉了
会让你被第一次的职场经验给吓到
And that's what makes living here mentally challenging sometimes. Made me
feel like there's a lot of two faced people, or that they were being too fake
in public. Taiwanese at work and Taiwanese in public are two totally
different experiences.
There are "fake people" and such in every country, but I feel like the
friendliness in public is so overboard that it's kind of shocking the first
time you experience the corporate environment.
https://i.imgur.com/0DWPOjx.png
对谁友善?菲律宾人?印尼人?黑人?白人旅客?看他们跟谁互动吧?
Friendly to whom? Filipinos? Indonesians? Black people? White tourists? A lot
depends on who they are interacting with
https://i.imgur.com/IMW6Lrb.png
在热带国家的人通常会比较“友善”
但我看来?台湾人的友善很表面,只有在短时间的互动才会发生
People in places with warmer climates tend to be more "friendly".
But in my honest opinion? Taiwanese people are only friendly on the surface
level and only if you interact with them for a short period of time.
https://i.imgur.com/guOv3ds.png
我觉得你的经验不一样,我不是白人也不是东亚人,我在这里的时间,
也没遇到一般白人会有的友善
我没有感受之前在希腊和哥伦比亚得到的友善
I think your mileage may vary. I am not white and not east Asian. I haven't
felt the friendliness in my time here that, for example, a white tall blond
American would receive. My experience here doesn't approach the friendliness
I felt in places like Greece or Colombia.
作为一个高大的金发美国人,我会说台湾人“友好”但不会说他们“友善”
例如我的同事都“友好”,会帮我找东西或翻译但他们不是我的朋友
且经常拒绝的我的邀约,例如晚餐、喝咖啡、去看展等等
每个人在这座岛上都觉得我不会讲中文,跟之前在中国有的大量友善交流不同
,在这里不会发生
如果要说有什么不同的话,这里的人是遇过最内向的地方之一
Even as a tall blond American although I'd call the Taiwanese "nice" I
wouldn't call them "friendly." i.e. although my coworkers are "nice" and will
help me look something up or translate a Chinese word they sure as hell
aren't my friends and have turned down every invitation to get dinner,
coffee, go to an art gallery, etc. Everyone on this island just assumes I
don't speak Mandarin so the multitude of friendly convos I'd have with
strangers like I would in China just don't happen here. If anything this has
been one of the more introverted distanced places I've ever lived or visited.
https://i.imgur.com/ZmbfQB3.png
有些人会直接问我“台湾人是世界上最友善的人吧?你同意吗?”
但我反问他们为何没次我过马路时,他们企图把我撞死,
我只会得到“我们也不喜欢那样,但你同意台湾人是世界最友善的吧?”
好像是跟游戏中的NPC对话
Some people I meet just ask me straight up "Taiwanese are the friendliest
people in the world right? You agree with that right?"
When I ask them if they are so friendly why do they try to mow me down when I
cross the road I get just the "Oh we don't like that either but you agree
that Taiwanese are the friendliest in the world?"
Like talking to NPC in a game.
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