[转录] 明代汉人领先西洋世界第一?

楼主: brbear (I'm professional)   2022-02-09 12:56:55
难怪明粉一直捧明国
原来人家曾经领先过欧洲
日本连列强都不是
闽南人客家人外省人一堆汉人后代
有感到与有荣焉?
作者: googolplex (googolplex) 看板: historia
标题: [请益] 外国人:明朝是15世纪的地球上最强大国家?
时间: Tue Feb 8 16:32:23 2022
外国人认为 明朝是15世纪的地球上最强大国家?
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Ming
The Great Ming Empire owes its origins to the collapse of the Flag of Yuan
Yuan dynasty from Flag of Mongolia Mongolia and the period of rebellion and
strife that struck China in the mid-14th century. From this age of chaos, the
Ming emerged as the greatest power in China, eliminating their Han rivals and
pushing the descendants of Kublai Khan back to the Great Wall. After eighty
years of governance, the Ming have firmly established themselves as the
preeminent power in East Asia.
Even though Ming continues to prosper, its international presence has flagged
since the end of Zheng He's voyages, and new realms have posed fresh
challenges to the empire. In the divided north, nomads have begun to coalesce
under the leadership of the Flag of Oirat Oirat warlord Esen, who aspires to
become the new Great Khan of all the Mongols. Ming diplomacy at least
prevented a similar movement from happening among the Jurchen tribes to the
northeast, where Imperial policy has encouraged infighting among the nomads.
While the fractious and distracted Jurchens are unlikely to pose a threat any
time soon, Esen's Oirats may prove to be a very formidable foe indeed.
Ming's relations in the south are somewhat better. Flag of Dai Viet Dai Viet
freed itself from Ming domination only two decades prior, and still remains
wary of its Chinese neighbor to the north. Other powers in the region have a
more positive opinion of Ming, but mountains and jungles mean that Ming
receives little more than token tributes from the southern kingdoms.
Ming's relations are strongest with the Joseon dynasty of Flag of Korea
Korea. Both Ming and the Joseon dynasty emerged from the ashes of the Great
Yuan, and thanks to their common adherence to Confucian philosophy both have
maintained strong bonds ever since.
Not all of Ming's troubles are external; the Mandate of Heaven is a fickle
one, and if the Emperor's authority wavers too much then there are those who
may choose to shun the Ming altogether. China would have to fall far indeed
to reach such dire straits; in the 15th century, the Great Ming Empire is by
far the strongest realm in Asia, and quite possibly on Earth!
In 1444, the Great Powers are:
1.Ming Ming 2.Mamluks Mamluks 3.England England 4.Ottomans Ottomans
5.France France 6.Castile Castile 7.Timurids Timurids 8.Aragon Aragon
翻译
大明帝国发端于蒙古的元王朝的崩溃,以及14世纪中叶袭扰中国的动乱与纷争。乱世之中
,大明诞生为中华大地上最强大的势力,消灭他们同为汉人的对手,将忽必烈汗的子孙赶
出长城。开国八十年,大明已然稳坐东亚龙头宝座。
尽管大明依旧繁荣,然而其国际影响在郑和的远航结束后便陷入衰退,新生国家也为帝国
带来了崭新的挑战。在分裂的北方,游牧民向渴望成为新蒙古大汗的瓦刺首领也先麾下聚
集。先前明朝的外交手段至少阻止东北的女真部族统一在一起,这归功于明朝煽动游牧民
内斗的政策。虽然易怒又疯狂的女真部似乎短期内不太可能成为威胁,也先率领的瓦刺部
却很可能成为强大的敌手。
明朝与南方诸国的关系多少要好一些。大越二十年前才从明朝独立,并仍对北方的中国邻
居保持着警惕。这一地区的其他国家对明朝的态度友好得多,但遍布该地区的山岳与丛林
意味着明朝不过能从这些南部的王国手中得到一点象征性的贡品。
明朝与朝鲜的朝鲜王朝关系最为紧密。明与朝鲜王朝都建立于大元的废墟之上。两国关系
因共同信仰儒家哲学而变得更加紧密。
明朝面临的麻烦并非都来自外部,天命就是其中易变的一个,如果皇帝的权威摇摆不定,
各地豪强便可能会揭竿而起。中国将难免陷入这样可怕的境地,但在15世纪,大明帝国仍
然是东亚乃至地球上最强大的国家。
外国人认为在15世纪中期1444年的瓦尔纳战役(Battle of Varna)结束后的世界的八大列
强国排名为
https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Great_power
In 1444, the Great Powers
1. Ming Ming 2. Mamluks Mamluks 3. England England 4. Ottomans Ottomans
5. France France 6. Castile Castile 7. Timurids Timurids 8. Aragon Aragon
1444年,列强排名
1.明朝 2.马穆鲁克 3.英格兰 4.鄂图曼 5.法兰西 6.卡斯提亚 7.帖木儿
8.亚拉冈
为何外国人认为中国的明朝在15世纪里是地球最强大的国家?
外国人有什么根据这么讲呢?
作者: cht1234 (cht1234)   2021-02-08 16:34:00
你先说说为何没根据?
作者: kons (kons)   2021-02-08 16:52:00
原PO是在酸一堆人说中国很废很烂吧,现在烂,以前更烂每次提到中国古代强,就是中国无纯种汉人,都胡人后代元朝都把汉人当两脚羊吃光,现在汉人都是蒙古人的后代总之就是一定要看不起中国才行
作者: darin8709 (volleyer)   2021-02-08 17:19:00
明朝的确是当时最强的吧
作者: IBIZA (温一壶月光作酒)   2021-02-08 17:20:00
还以为是金门王
作者: ccyaztfe (best_troll_tw)   2021-02-08 17:20:00
鄂图曼只能排到4吗?他可是打败东罗马欸
作者: sunny16 (阳光哥)   2021-02-08 17:23:00
我比较纳闷为什么鄂图曼为什么比英格兰还后面
作者: DogEggz (DogEggz)   2021-02-08 17:32:00
15世纪英国贞德前有比鄂图曼强大吧...不过时间很短
作者: l81311i   2021-02-08 17:48:00
最大没有错 最强不可能
作者: stoneruler (光芒鱼)   2021-02-08 17:58:00
马穆鲁克排在鄂图曼前面我也不懂
作者: atteleitus (Atteleitus)   2021-02-08 18:30:00
ID
作者: undeadsin (レライエ)   2021-02-08 18:43:00
1444年鄂图曼还在恢复中吧 世纪初刚被帖木儿打爆
作者: kakuj (longwinter)   2021-02-08 19:31:00
又一个来云的 eu4 Ming的天朝机制与事件导致是非常容易被干死的列强
作者: jackliao1990 (jack)   2021-02-08 20:16:00
这不是其他版的老问题吗?
作者: takanasiyaya (cloud)   2021-02-08 20:19:00
1444离1453年只差九年,鄂图曼正要进入全盛时期了好吗,被帖木儿扁的伤痕已经算是愈合了,倒是英法还在打百年战争,英国是能多强啦
作者: PsMonkey (痞子军团团长)   2021-02-08 21:02:00
可以打上百年,所以很强 [误]
作者: fatisuya (伊达枫)   2021-02-08 23:20:00
明朝强不强可以玩玩EU4(误)
作者: zeumax (烟灰缸里的鱼)   2021-02-08 23:42:00
明朝体制烂,但中国本身拥有过去积累的技术,如造纸术印刷术,这些对推升知识普及文化发展助力大,即便西方也开始用而陶瓷丝绸茶叶这三项特殊垄断商品,贸易获取白银源源不绝说白靠这些遗产,在那生产技术不发达时代,很容易跃居王者
作者: saberr33 (creeps)   2021-02-09 00:23:00
为啥不是
作者: sdd5426 (★黑白小羊☆)   2021-02-09 08:50:00
在标题打外国人三个字不会看起来比较有说服力

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