[闲聊] 2.0.4 变动与秘境传奇掉落分析

楼主: serialhon (人生如梦)   2014-04-08 12:16:41
http://ppt.cc/T0nc
Legendary Drop Rates Inside and Out of Rifts [Graphs], Killing Malthael On T6
At Level 1, Bagstone's Pure Tank Monk Build
By JustTryAnother 58 minutes ago
[Reminder] RoS First Patch - 2.0.4 Datamined Class Changes
A patch hit Blizzard's servers almost 24 hours ago and it contained a lot of
Crusader changes as well as several other changes for other classes. What you
see there is probably just a part of the patch that's going to be applied
with the upcoming scheduled maintenance.
2.0.4 圣教军 比其他职业 buff 更多 这听起来很酷~~~~
Legendary Drop Rates Inside and Out of Rifts [Graphs]
A great analysis of the Legendary drop chances was posted by Galiks* on our
Theorycrafting and Analysis forum. If you've been wondering what the use of
Rifts is compared to just killing random monsters outside of them, he gives a
lot of answers, depending on your Magic Find and preferred Torment level.
There are two ways to calculate the drop rates and he shows the results of
both of them, putting them side by side, so that everyone can draw their own
conclusions:
Here are some of the conclusions he's drawn from this graph:
传奇掉落分析如下
Torment 1 rifting is slightly worse than drop rates from Torment 3
non-rifting.
Torment 2 rifting is equal to Torment 4 non-rifting.
Torment 3 rifting is slightly better than Torment 5 non-rifting.
Torment 4-6 rifting is better than Torment 6 non-rifting.
秘境T1 略< 非秘境T3
秘境T2 = 非秘境T4
秘境T3 略> 非秘境T5
秘境T4-T6 > 非秘境T6
And here are some of the conclusions about the difference Magic Find makes in
terms of drop rates inside Nephalem Rifts:
加入MF后的分析
Wearing no MF inside a Torment 2 rift is equivalent to Torment 4 farming
outside of a rift
Wearing 50 MF inside a Torment 2 rift is equivalent to Torment 5 farming
outside of a rift
Wearing 150 MF inside a Torment 2 rift is slightly less than Torment 6
farming outside of a rift
Wearing 300 MF inside a Torment 2 rift is greater than Torment 6 farming
outside of a rift, and equivalent to Torment 5 farming inside of a rift with
no MF
For more details and Q&A, hop to the original topic and decide how worth it
Rifts are.
MF0: 秘境T2 = 非秘境T4
MF50: 秘境T2 = 非秘境T5
MF150: 秘境T2 略< 非秘境T6
MF300: 秘境T2 > 非秘境T6 = MF0 秘境T5
Killing Malthael On T6 At Level 1
It turns out it's completely possible to kill Malthael on Torment 6 with a
brand new character. There is a slight trick of course and if you don't like
anything resembling a cheat, you might just want to to move along. If you're
up for learning how this "magic" happens, check out the trick in the spoiler
box and the video going along with it.
1级杀T6马瑟尔 这也很酷~~~~~
Spoiler (click to hide)
The trick is equipping a Hellfire ring with Dexterity and it will give you
over 100% dodge chance at level 1:
秘诀: 装备地狱火敏戒 (+闪躲100%up)
Bagstone's Pure Tank Monk Build
Bagstone made some modifications to his Pure Tank Monk Build and is now
looking for feedback, aside from hoping to be useful to other fellow Monks.
So check his topic out and share your thoughts if you've tried it out or if
you've got theories without having to test it.
坦僧构想中.......
作者: thesky14 (七夜)   2014-04-08 12:19:00
所以目前秘境掉宝增加还没实装吗?
作者: teddygoodgoo (默)   2014-04-08 12:19:00
这最后一项现在还有用? 这可是刷材料最佳解
作者: icefrog (冰蛙)   2014-04-08 12:20:00
都是唬烂.....还是人品 我打T6秘境有过一轮6光 也有5轮没
作者: kyo76312 (餅乾)   2014-04-08 12:20:00
有用阿 问题要打很久............................非常久
作者: edarthur47 (宗)   2014-04-08 12:21:00
我寻宝有撑到300了 快改...
作者: wdcr (无敌超人)   2014-04-08 12:21:00
都是人品 无差
作者: qscgg (QSC)   2014-04-08 12:22:00
最佳解咧...你是想打多久啊XD
作者: teddygoodgoo (默)   2014-04-08 12:22:00
自己锻造武器+红宝呢? 会打比较快吗
作者: Sadim (.........)   2014-04-08 12:22:00
秘境掉宝增加已经实装了阿
作者: t1520061217 (YiS)   2014-04-08 12:23:00
而且打完就升级了吧
作者: bloodruru (心在哪 答案就在哪)   2014-04-08 12:24:00
最好t2密境有这么神奇 追的上t4 真的假的? XD
作者: spy9527 (实事求是,以理服人)   2014-04-08 12:26:00
无感
作者: kgb1019 (小凡)   2014-04-08 12:27:00
无感 打T2秘境 3.4场连个魂都没喷
作者: bye2007 ( )   2014-04-08 12:27:00
1级杀T6马瑟尔?? 这是怎么搞的??
作者: thesky14 (七夜)   2014-04-08 12:27:00
看来不用刷喉了 打T5裂喉很无聊 打T2秘境比较有趣
作者: CrazyR (无聊是慢性毒药。)   2014-04-08 12:28:00
T2秘境真的满好掉的 刷个一场十来分打个一两个小时大家都有3~4左右
作者: spy9527 (实事求是,以理服人)   2014-04-08 12:28:00
看来随从又要塞满MF装了
作者: henry1234562 (亨利二十三)   2014-04-08 12:28:00
已经说啦 带狱火妖戒 敏捷可以让闪避率100%
作者: aggressorX (阿冲)   2014-04-08 12:29:00
酷你妈 nerf天火去屎吧
作者: gpc (gpc)   2014-04-08 12:29:00
一堆吸饱哥不解释 同T4有人一场3光 有人10场0光
作者: Meds (F)   2014-04-08 12:29:00
也要看秘境怪物密度吧
作者: CrazyR (无聊是慢性毒药。)   2014-04-08 12:30:00
怨念好重@@
作者: zooxalju (不吃鱼的猫)   2014-04-08 12:30:00
我打T3都没感觉什么掉宝啊
作者: aggressorX (阿冲)   2014-04-08 12:31:00
这根本唬烂 打了整晚T3祕境 什么洨都没有
作者: s881720   2014-04-08 12:31:00
BZ:圣骑整体变动Z>B
作者: CrazyR (无聊是慢性毒药。)   2014-04-08 12:32:00
BZ:圣骑整体变动Z>B
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 12:34:00
秘境如果抽到神图真的超爽
作者: edarthur47 (宗)   2014-04-08 12:35:00
我称到300打T4明显有差 组队一个0一个300对比下
作者: et310   2014-04-08 12:35:00
祕境Z>B? 尾王常常连遗忘都不喷还敢说有感 问号
作者: wyiwyi (纸片宅)   2014-04-08 12:36:00
我打宝装的拆了....
作者: hollowland (顛倒鐘)   2014-04-08 12:37:00
圣骑整体变动Z>B 林杯第一只就玩十字军 真的Z>B
作者: thewid (THEWIND)   2014-04-08 12:37:00
T3 5场0光 两忘魂...
作者: zooxalju (不吃鱼的猫)   2014-04-08 12:37:00
现在能撑MF的都是有留旧装的吧
作者: hollowland (顛倒鐘)   2014-04-08 12:38:00
实际上没专武哭哭欧的情况还是没多大改善..
作者: tribeswf (挫冰小哥)   2014-04-08 12:40:00
我怎么觉得t1秘境比普通福袋团还难掉...
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 12:40:00
凯恩套有MF
作者: gladopo (glad)   2014-04-08 12:40:00
普通刷得快吧其实我觉得最会掉的就是普通福袋团了...
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 12:41:00
凯恩 黄宝 追随者配拿各 在不损失战力下MF100不难
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 12:42:00
150..除非自己也拿拿各或旧装 但是战力会打折
作者: gladopo (glad)   2014-04-08 12:43:00
150就靠个顶拿各吧 ,DPS掉是会掉,但应该还可以接受
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 12:44:00
MF 只有1/10有作用 也就是多个30%掉宝有感你要说多有用我持保留态度
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 12:45:00
底层的基数越小 就算给你50%你也不太有感的
作者: CrazyR (无聊是慢性毒药。)   2014-04-08 12:45:00
根据一些人的态度 就算掉落率调得再高 还是有人会哭哭
作者: pipiispipi   2014-04-08 12:47:00
不管怎样都会有人靠北的 人是很贪的
作者: edarthur47 (宗)   2014-04-08 12:48:00
MF300的打到4件 MF0打到0-1件 实际体验 同时间跑图
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 12:48:00
mf加减称阿不影响战力就OK
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 12:51:00
...你跑了多少次阿...要是结果反过来你是不是要说MF没用
作者: kroutony (bingbing)   2014-04-08 12:51:00
某些人的想法就是最好每分钟都喷传奇才叫做有感
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 12:52:00
能撑加减撑没错 我比较想知道现在MF称最高的能爽打T几?
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 12:54:00
大概也只能穿凯恩吧XD
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 12:55:00
还是不太懂BZ要这样NERF MF的用意...特定装备才出还给你效用只有1/10
作者: vi000246 (Vi)   2014-04-08 12:56:00
我宁愿用一百个魂换一个裂片
作者: henry1234562 (亨利二十三)   2014-04-08 12:59:00
其实他愿意让我死息换遗魂我就很感激了
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 13:02:00
楼上这是好想法...如果可以跟WOW一样 死息可以当货币的话...来一个传材商人感觉也不错...
作者: hollowland (顛倒鐘)   2014-04-08 13:04:00
反正都是帐榜 这想法好像不错...
作者: hopez (gy啦)   2014-04-08 13:05:00
死息换血岩也爽 现在死息根本太多
作者: zooxalju (不吃鱼的猫)   2014-04-08 13:06:00
靠刷T6冈母赚死息....
作者: teddygoodgoo (默)   2014-04-08 13:08:00
我去打了马瑟尔,大约1分钟就死了,不过啥都没喷是因为开冒险的关系吗?
作者: MOONY135 (谈无欲)   2014-04-08 13:21:00
你是首刷吗?
作者: Foot (Foot)   2014-04-08 13:29:00
地狱火妖戒那边是什么意思?
作者: stlo (長笛是飄逸型的樂器)   2014-04-08 13:33:00
等级一穿妖戒100%闪避 之前就有人说过
作者: Foot (Foot)   2014-04-08 13:34:00
感谢解答
作者: CCFACE (杨皮)   2014-04-08 13:36:00
我想问一个白痴的...请问一定要过50门槛?还是有总比没有好
作者: rayallen3001 (琴酒)   2014-04-08 13:40:00
机率是数学的玄学啊~一切还是看人品最实在
作者: callmelanpo (陈亨利)   2014-04-08 13:47:00
我宁愿水晶也不要死息
作者: iam0718 (999)   2014-04-08 13:57:00
秘境的掉落率整个XX 不如福袋或猎猴
作者: hitsukix (胖胖)   2014-04-08 15:32:00
那是概率不是一定要50,150 要50的话去作个凯恩套就有了
作者: vinmo (小强)   2014-04-08 15:52:00
祕境掉宝整个有感耶...刚不到一小时喷5光 其中4把是武器

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