Re: 分辨上主的旨意

楼主: aun5780 (梦境)   2017-07-17 09:27:38
→ timer000: indifference指的是"平心",07/17 01:35
→ timer000: 在我们教会更具体的讲法就是凡事包容07/17 01:35
→ timer000: 凡事相信,凡事盼望,不判断,事事感谢, 07/17 01:36
→ timer000: 事事欢乐,因为每件事都看到, 07/17 01:37
→ timer000: 神每一时每一刻都与我们同在,每件事都有美意 07/17 01:38
→ timer000: 现在的我,还没这么大的信心, 07/17 01:39
→ timer000: 这是日日祈祷,与主同行的果实07/17 01:39
→ timer000: 是圣神给我们的礼物,而非人可以靠自己达成07/17 01:40
→ timer000: 我们很重视,基督徒要先意识到自己是多么罪恶,充满判断 07/17 01:41
→ timer000: 多么做不到这些07/17 01:41
→ timer000: 并意识到,上帝有多爱我们,而他的恩典多么强力07/17 01:42
→ timer000: 多么的能化不可能为可能07/17 01:43
→ timer000: 而能意识到这些,也都是天主给我们的礼物07/17 01:45
您好
您可能弄混了Saint Ignatius of Loyola的两个不同概念
一个是indifference
一个是discernment
http://www.ignatianspirituality.com/
这个应该是他的官网吧
点进去后首页就有一篇
http://www.ignatianspirituality.com/24425/discernment-different-stages-life
In the years of young adulthood, we face—sometimes quite suddenly—major
decisions that can have great impact on the rest of life. Our discernment at
this time has much to do with self-understanding. Am I a good fit to be in
relationship with this person, or that one? Am I suited well to this kind of
work/career or to something else? By this time, we should have right and
wrong figured out for the most part. But what about our priorities? Do our
daily choices and actions move us toward what we see as a life purpose?
Into middle adulthood—by this I mean late 30s into the 50s—the discernment
gets even trickier, because by now we likely have multiple and appropriate
attachments. Many of us are in serious relationships, are parents, have begun
careers or at least have established a steady working life. Much of our
discernment involves figuring out how all these aspects of life are
interacting and where corrections need to be made. We are discerning how to
discipline and guide children and how to work through marital difficulties;
at the same time, we are moving outward, trying to help others, to be people
for others. We probably were helping others years ago, but it’s more
complicated now that we have multiple obligations.
而这个更是我们会面对的问题
就是我们无从discern神的旨意
无从discern神的带领
然后自己走上自己错误的道路
文章最后提出了几个部分可以去discern
Identifying patterns of thought or behavior that we need to face and change.
Identifying deep and lasting wounds and learning how to seek healing and
restoration.
Choosing the best out of multiple good options.
Dealing with unhealthy attachments; praying and working toward spiritual
freedom.
Discovering the best way to use our resources—gifts, money, time, and
energy—to help the world.
但毕竟只是散文(类似每日读经 每日祈祷 那种10分钟解决的散文)
所以终究只有点到为止
至于如何去discern神的旨意
就没有多做说明了
作者: timer000 (祝我们平安^_^)   2016-07-17 01:35:00
indifference指的是"平心",在我们教会更具体的讲法就是凡事包容凡事相信,凡事盼望,不判断,事事感谢,事事欢乐,因为每件事都看到,神每一时每一刻都与我们同在,每件事都有美意现在的我,还没这么大的信心,这是日日祈祷,与主同行的果实是圣神给我们的礼物,而非人可以靠自己达成我们很重视,基督徒要先意识到自己是多么罪恶,充满判断多么做不到这些并意识到,上帝有多爱我们,而他的恩典多么强力多么的能化不可能为可能而能意识到这些,也都是天主给我们的礼物
作者: pinjose (jose)   2017-07-17 10:27:00
这一篇不错https://goo.gl/gxQ1Tm 第贰大段有实行里面有跟你类似的意思,可以求神把错路堵起来!初信造就共50篇,其实蛮不错的,可以按主题找需要的
楼主: aun5780 (梦境)   2017-07-17 13:09:00
中午有认真看 真的是好方法!!!原则一 圣经是否许可原则二 圣经许可后 看环境配不配合原则三 前面两个都OK的话 要寻求圣灵里的平安跟感动我有找到这系列的根目录http://www.churchinmontereypark.org/Docs/Nee/03/都是不错的好文 感谢喔~~~而且这篇有个很重要的观念-神的旨意只给那些立志遵行的人知道-所以如果没打算要遵行那一定会变成凭感觉
作者: pinjose (jose)   2017-07-17 13:36:00
http://www.churchinmontereypark.org/Docs/Nee/初信造就在第三辑2,3,4册
楼主: aun5780 (梦境)   2017-07-17 13:48:00
太好了 感谢喔~~~倪柝声 总觉得这名字很耳熟在美国基督教界似乎很有名Watchman Nee看到NEE 不是NextEra Energy 就一定是倪柝声
作者: pinjose (jose)   2017-07-17 14:07:00
今时代神圣启示的先见 - 倪柝声 可以查这本书有他详细的介绍https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeSz8V-g-UE 纪念诗歌
楼主: aun5780 (梦境)   2017-07-17 14:28:00
看来是著名的华人基督徒领袖
作者: timer000 (祝我们平安^_^)   2017-07-20 00:47:00
我有看PINJOSE转贴的网址其中初信造就提到的分辨法则有好多和耶稣会的分辨法则相似的地方

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