Re: [讨论] 邀请讨论四一神的问题

楼主: outra (奥特罗)   2016-02-09 22:26:45
以下是天主教的<大教理>摘录,请unix2007方面,和其他的看官参考.(请版方别再
用什么"转贴...50字"的咚咚来技术性干扰.我在这里不是在"洗版",而是"提供原
始资料".)
大家可以注意括号的部分.第一部分是彼后一4.第二部分引用了亚他拿修的话,原
文翻译是:"神的独生子,想要让我们成为祂神格的分享者,取了我们的性情,好叫祂
成为人,使得人成为神(gods)."
老鱼
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CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
460. [The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature"(2Pet
1:4):] "For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son
of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus
receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God (Irenaeus)..."[The
only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed
our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods" (Athanasius).]
654. Justification...brings about filial adoption so that men become Christ's
brethren...We are brethren not by nature, but by the gift of grace, because
that adoptive filiation gains us a real share in the life of the only Son,
which was fully revealed in his Resurrection.
1996. Our justification come from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free
and undeserved helpthat God gives us to respond to his call to become
children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal
life.
2009. Filial adoption, in making us partakers by grace in the divine nature,
can bestow true merit on us as a result of God's gratuitous justice. This is
our right by grace, the full right of love, making us "co-heirs" with Christ
and worthy of obtaining "the promised inheritance of eternal life" (Council
of Trent). The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness.
"Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due...Our merits are
God's gifts" (Augustine).
作者: unix2007 (Unix)   2016-02-09 22:37:00
中文版在此http://0rz.tw/xcOKx可是 我觉得这部分真的经文根据不足天主教教理居然只引述了一节经文就导出后面一连串的结论目前主流说法是圣经还没集结这观念就存在于教会教导但如果没有更多经文就算是对的也很难加以证明就是了
楼主: outra (奥特罗)   2016-02-09 22:52:00
建议您多参考其他的书籍.例如:amazon.com上若搜寻theosis或deification,您会惊讶有多少书在讨论这个问题.中文这方面的书籍非常少.我建议的那本,您不妨参考.其实,古代教会用的是诗篇82:6
作者: unix2007 (Unix)   2016-02-09 23:00:00
感谢您
楼主: outra (奥特罗)   2016-02-09 23:08:00
Norman Russell的书最权威.美国作神化题目的论文和书都要引用他的书.建议参考.
作者: bettis (bet)   2016-02-09 23:09:00
您如果回文是这么丰富,没人会说什么如果你要误认为我是在技术干扰也未免想太多了所谓三一或四一神对我来说,没有差别
楼主: outra (奥特罗)   2016-02-09 23:40:00
bettis:您还没资格进行技术性干扰.您多虑了!我讲的是另一位'替您说话,掩护您'的山大王

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