Fw: [新闻] 因地域锁涉违反欧盟反垄断法,Valve抗议

楼主: DaneiLJ (键盘乡民)   2019-09-01 20:48:03
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作者: DaneiLJ (键盘乡民) 看板: Steam
标题: Re: [新闻] 因地域锁涉违反欧盟反垄断法,Valve抗议
时间: Sun Sep 1 19:53:09 2019
※ 引述《YoshiTilde (一页本是难成书)》之铭言:
: : → linzero: 有些经济诉讼会花很久的,搞不好这案子是2015年前的 09/01 11:20
: : 推 schula: 这种的还是看原文比较不会有翻译上的误差(汗 09/01 11:52
: 这案子始于2013年
: 欧盟主张:
: In a true Digital Single Market, European consumers should have the right to buy
: and play video games of their choice regardless of where they live in the EU. C
: onsumers should not be prevented from shopping around between Member States to f
: ind the best available deal. Valve and the five PC video game publishers now hav
: e the chance to respond to our concerns.
: 有趣的是欧盟说自己的法律:
: The Regulation prohibits geo-blocking and other geographically-based restriction
: s which undermine online shopping and cross-border sales by limiting the possibi
: lity for consumers and businesses to benefit from the advantages of online comme
: rce. Currently, the Regulation applies to PC video games distributed on CDs, DVD
: s but not to downloads.
: The Commission will carry out a first evaluation of the Regulation by 23 March 2
: 020. In particular, the Commission will assess the scope of the Regulation, incl
: uding its possible application to certain electronically supplied services which
: offer copyright-protected content such as music, e-books, software and online g
: ames, as well as of services in sectors such as transport and audio-visual.
: Valve觉得:
: However, the EC's charges do not relate to the sale of PC games on Steam - Valve
: 's PC gaming service. Instead the EC alleges that Valve enabled geo-blocking by
: providing Steam activation keys and - upon the publishers' request - locking tho
: se keys to particular territories ("region locks") within the EEA. Such keys all
: ow a customer to activate and play a game on Steam when the user has purchased i
: t from a third-party reseller. Valve provides Steam activation keys free of char
: ge and does not receive any share of the purchase price when a game is sold by t
: hird-party resellers (such as a retailer or other online store).
: The region locks only applied to a small number of game titles. Approximately ju
: st 3% of all games using Steam (and none of Valve's own games) at the time were
: subject to the contested region locks in the EEA. Valve believes that the EC's e
: xtension of liability to a platform provider in these circumstances is not suppo
: rted by applicable law.
: 而且他们已经:
: Nonetheless, because of the EC's concerns, Valve actually turned off region lock
: s within the EEA starting in 2015, unless those region locks were necessary for
: local legal requirements (such as German content laws) or geographic limits on w
: here the Steam partner is licensed to distribute a game.
: 但他们认为这样会:
: The elimination of region locks will also mean that publishers will likely raise
: prices in less affluent regions to avoid price arbitrage. There are no costs in
: volved in sending activation keys from one country to another and the activation
: key is all a user needs to activate and play a PC game.
: https://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-19-2010_en.htm
: https://steamdb.info/blog/steam-geo-locking-europe/
有原文就来翻原文吧
就事论事,至少看看是什么"行为"违反反垄断法吧
截自原po提供的第一个连结
The Commission's preliminary view is that
Valve and the five PC video game publishers entered into bilateral agreements
‘to prevent consumers from purchasing and using PC video games
acquired elsewhere than in their country of residence’
(so-called “geo-blocking”).
This is against EU antitrust rules.
Valve and the five PC video game publishers agreed,
in breach of EU antitrust rules,
to use geo-blocked activation keys to prevent cross-border sales,
including in response to unsolicited consumer requests
(so-called “passive sales”) of PC video games from several Member States
(i.e. Czechia, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia,
and in some cases Romania).
‘This may have prevented consumers from buying cheaper games
available in other Member States.’
违反反垄断法的
是‘禁止消费者购买、使用从他国取得的游戏金钥’
也就是所谓的锁区(region lock)
欧盟认为这行为伤害消费者购买便宜游戏的可能
而且欧盟还怀疑有协议行为
被开罚跟
统一售价、上架不上架
一点关系都没有
作者: vsepr55 (vsepr55)   2019-09-01 20:52:00
欧盟明明就是说消费者有资格透过跨区域达成更划算的交易不懂到底跟统一定价有啥关系= =
作者: KuBiLife (人生苦逼)   2019-09-01 20:56:00
欧盟真的想洞想缝要赚钱诶 ==
作者: zeal63966   2019-09-01 21:02:00
这里有问题的是厂商跟steam,不是欧盟好吗
作者: wangyc (╳乂ㄨメX乄χ×x)   2019-09-01 21:09:00
小礼服+1推错
作者: DuckZero (国际鲁蛇份子)   2019-09-01 21:11:00
作者: jackyT (Ubuntu5566)   2019-09-01 21:39:00
欧盟的概念是 你真人跑到便宜国家买便宜的东西没毛病但是大家都跳板就...
作者: Miyukan (tissue)   2019-09-02 00:56:00
欧盟最近没钱吧

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