Steam Is Banning Sex Games With Young-Looking Characters
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These days, anything goes on Steam, but not anything anything. If games are “
illegal, or straight up trolling,” Valve says it’ll send them packing. In
the past, that’s meant low-effort games with titles like Big Dick and MILF,
achievement spam, and certain sex games.
Now, according to some developers, Valve is going after games that feature
themes of “child exploitation,” which it seems to define, at least in part,
as games with sex scenes or nudity where the characters are in high school.
Over the past few weeks, the company has removed the store pages of several
visual novels, including cross-dressing yaoi romance Cross Love, catholic
school adult visual novel Hello Goodbye, “story about the love between
siblings” (yuck) Imolicious, and cat girl game MaoMao Discovery Team. The
developers of these games all claim to have received similar emails stating
that their games could not be released on Steam.
“While we can ship most titles on Steam, we found that this one does feature
themes of child exploitation,” read the email received by Top Hat Studios,
makers of Cross Love. “Because of that, the app has been banned and cannot
be reused.”
There are a couple ties that bind the games in question: 1) Cross Love, Hello
Goodbye, and Imolicious feature school settings, and 2) all four of the
aforementioned games contain adult elements and center around anime-styled
characters who appear young—in some cases uncomfortably so. However, their
developers have taken to protesting the bans on social media, saying that
their games have been misunderstood. They all claim they’ve reached out to
Valve since receiving their bans, only to be met with silence.
Cross Love’s developers say they’ve taken great pains to ensure that their
game demonstrates, on multiple occasions, that its students are of age. This
includes scenes where they peruse 18+ manga and are ID-ed before being
allowed into an adult bookstore.
“These scenes aren’t there to be artificially shoehorned in, and while they
do exist as further proof of characters’ ages (beyond the disclaimer in the
beginning that explicitly states them as being 18), the real reason they’re
there is to further many of the themes in the story,” said developer Top Hat
to Kotaku in a Twitter DM, pointing out that it’s tried to contact Valve
with this information six separate times, to no avail. “A large chunk of the
story is about accepting who you are, being comfortable with yourself, and
altogether similar themes within a type of coming of age-style love story,
which isn’t really seen in most yaoi games.”
“While we can ship most titles on Steam, we found that this one does feature
themes of child exploitation.”
Other games are more questionable. Imolicious’ developer claims there aren’
t “any children” in the game, but it revolves around school girls. When I
pointed out that most school girls are, by definition, children, developer
Yume Creations replied in a DM: “High school students aren’t children, they
are teenager[s].” Most teenagers in high school are still minors, so that
rationale doesn’t really hold water. The developer also noted, however, that
“in [the] case of Imolicious, I added a disclaimer that all characters [are]
over 18 like you can see in most visual novels.”
They’re not wrong: This is a trend among visual novels featuring adult
material—and more broadly among “loli” anime, which tends to feature
suspiciously young-looking women who are said to be over 18. But while some
take these declarations at face value, others view them as obvious (and
creepy) fig leaves.
“Having a disclaimer stating that a drawing is of consensual age or not is a
ridiculous thing to rely upon,” said one user in a Steam forum thread
discussing MaoMao Discovery Team’s legality. “At the end of the day, it is
a fictional drawing that does not have an age. If you think they look too
young, then they are too young. A bit of text saying ‘this person is 20'
changes nothing.”
Which brings us to the heart of the matter: It’s Valve’s store, and what it
says goes. If someone at Valve decides characters look too young, then they’
re too young. Top Hat, however, believes there’s a double standard at play
here, not unlike the one some developers felt they’d fallen victim to before
Valve officially allowed uncensored sex games on Steam. Other games that
feature young-looking characters, school settings, and romantic/sexual
themes, like Nekopara Extra, Sakura Sakura, A Piece Of Wish Upon The Stars,
and Material Girl, are all still on Steam, Top Hat pointed out.
Kotaku reached out to Valve to ask about the rationale behind banning certain
games, but has yet to hear back.
Imolicious developer Yume Creations says it’s given up on trying to get the
game on Steam, opting instead to release an uncensored version on internet
hentai capital Fakku. In a Steam post, MaoMao’s developers made it sound
like they, too, are throwing in the towel. But while Top Hat has put Cross
Love up on other stores like Itch.io and Nutaku, it’s still giving Steam the
old hopefully-at-least-college-age try.
“Steam is a major service, and we had hundreds of players looking forward to
buying the game there upon release,” Top Hat said. “The game had wishlists
in the thousands, and the community group had several hundred people in it.
This is a very large userbase to lose out on, and it hurts us pretty bad. It’
s not world ending, but it is quite the end of the year blow.”
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关键字：Child Exploitation 儿童削剥
所以Cross Love、Hello Goodbye、MaoMao Discovery Team这些游戏才会被删除页面。
儿童削剥呀！不意外就是了，这在美国是逆鳞级的议题。

猫娘都几岁啊

都设定18岁不就好了

火车？

唉 世界末日

二次元也在管,太夸张

击溃萝莉控

MaoMao Discovery Team不错 很可爱的放置小品

这个可以理解啦 其实

火车出轨惹

这个不管真的会被抄家的

我也觉得合理，人家做生意的

我难过

可是对他们来说日式画风全都是

不要动到熟女就好

枪弹v3该禁了

禁止儿童色情本来就是天经地义啊 喜欢现实幼女恶心

SJW根本新法西斯

Cross Love 是什么游戏啊

千年萝啊

生理阉割 精神阉割 然后社会案件就发生了

这个还好啦 以闪乱的画风来看 的确偏幼吧 但也不是所有日系看起来都这样阿

人家1000岁早就超过18岁，这样还能算儿童？

和下面那篇一起看格外讽刺

完了，病娇模拟器就算开发完成也没平台了。

SJW呕呕呕呕呕

有够烦，一下说可以一下说不行，当创作者的时间都不是时间？我们社团做HG的，真的会被这些SJW搞疯，气死。

不要说儿童剥削，儿童暴力 欧美也是禁止的当初尸体派对 因为有儿童惨死画面 都不能再twitch播

可以理解

儿童色情在西方超逆鳞XD

不过YT 对尸体派对就睁一只眼闭一只眼

之前没说过儿童色情可以吧，一直都不行

没说可以，是成人游戏可以上架但不代表儿童情色可以

要儿童色情作品要往日本拉，西方这块完全死透

日本实在太变态萝莉控了

我比较好奇看起来未成年的标准到底是啥?

还是日本好

日:2D萝随便你但AV要打码 美:AV当然无码但2D萝不可以

火车和茂伸这2个没事就好（？

当SJW抄萝莉控的时候不说话，等到...

到底在崩溃什么 本来就该禁 那些喜欢儿童色情的应该都要抓起来判刑

靠现在是火车出轨了是不是…

对欧美来说日系就直接被任儿童色情啊，干他妈的又不是。真的智障

禁儿童色情不干SJW的事吧 本来就大忌不是?

他们的儿童不是JS，是JK==

那neko%%你要怎么解释 就只因为加个兽耳就过关吗? LUL

儿童色情禁止是OK啦 但看起来像就不行真的很靠北有些擦边球 画个萝说这18岁 被禁就算了啊干欧米人看日本动画都觉得人人未成年啊

“看起来”所以这个认定标准是以什么为准?

画个幼女硬说18岁以上本来就很北七 不然你就别沾色

智障SJW这么有正义感怎不去抢救真实世界中发生的童婚雏妓与童工呢

到底是多想要做儿童色情…，挡这个不是天经地义，难不成还要人家背书啊？

你可以画个成年人然后说她是10岁啊

就是所有的日式画风阿，又不是第一天讲这个

一群假掰

躲安全圈找二次元打靶就觉得自己有表现的SJW真恶心

这样干起来超爽的不好吗？有成熟的肉体，但只有10岁耶

%猫是有额外patch的关系吧

你画个老阿骂 设定写十岁一样不行好吗

先让我看完原文先 如过已是r18还搞这个就不太ok了

好想跟小女孩疯狂做爱

肥宅看那些二次元真的很恶

外国的守备区域，甚至可以到成人跟高中生谈恋爱就被认为不行，老实说范围是真的很广的

但普向卖废萌与擦边球也要管就太宽了

萝莉超骚的

奇怪的性癖早满天飞了 结果还是要禁萝莉 算了 高兴就好

支持 想看萝莉的不要用steam看不就好了= =奇怪的性癖跟恋童癖根本两码子事

这类议题又不是第一天才有 一堆人少见多怪

有空撂狠话，何不赶快去找个认为"不假掰"的自由平台？何必一直卢steam，要不是有很大的法律风险谁没事花力气管这个

很多日游都硬设定18岁感觉超好笑XD

是啊 说穿了 steam没有就pornhub直接咕狗 直接看就好了

应该分国家禁止吧

再怎么禁这类需求依旧存在 顶多就是没游戏就看本子而已

楼上你该不会以为现在的google和10几年前的google一样？有问题的东西早就不的出现在搜寻结果里了

西方价值正常运转 这部分还是给日本发挥吧

儿童色情不行合理啊，但是看起来太年轻的定义不就跟Sony现在要针对日本动漫风游戏一样= = 对欧美来说每个都码很年轻，明明就自己保线期短保鲜啦

但欧美对于非人的守备范围非常大 俄亥俄州就是受害者

真的不要以为只有画萝莉会被禁，等等跟你说这个JK或JD在我们欧美看来顶多小六或国中也禁= =

当SJW禁止一切色情时 才会有人缅怀过去

https://i.imgur.com/cN2ullF.png 大概以后都得自己拼吧让玩家自己用模拟器组合出喜欢的萝莉角色当角色之类的

兽控也禁好了不然现实一堆人兽交

所以谁来定义这个“看起来”呢？

ㄌㄌㄎ崩溃

这样一禁方糖社柚子社都一堆不能上了XD

火车我可以理解 美国就不能了真的太扯

又是死老美，他X的白宫欠人装炸弹吗？

QAQ 现在下载来得及吗（？

欧美这一点没办法啦 那边可是光持有都有可能出事的地方

doa6是不是完了？那个玛莉萝丝…

好了啦ㄌㄌㄎ，给你尻还要嫌啊

会不会有一天变成自由也是禁忌，连搜寻都找不到

但欧美人太年轻的标准和亚洲根本不一样啊

steam的平台 就是steam定义阿本来就不能定义的太死 一堆人想钻漏洞

steam欧美起家的 用欧美定义正常啊

亚洲人就算50岁在欧美人眼里都是萝莉体

有些欧美人跑到亚洲找小只马就是想%萝莉又怕犯法啊

“看起来”这个标准也太自由心政了吧

支持

何时steam把自己也禁掉

他敢禁我就去检举玛莉螺丝，要死一起死

萝莉真的无法

我比较意外steam原本有出 这类型的应该都要另找管道吧

valve风向一直变来变去的一开始很谨慎 或是只有排毒版上架的都很自制

亚洲人都码看起来比较幼

禁止看二次元萝莉本就像是叫甲甲不能肛交只能看BL本一样 管到天边去了

重点在标准怎么认定吧... 自由心证还是靠电脑辨识?

欧美人看起来的young looking，会不会连现在日漫正常的大姐姐JK.大学生也觉得young？

欧美18以下就是Child Fucker

这种一直以来都是自由心证啊，说你是你就是

各位，征求有志之士一起来做个与80路女孩儿谈恋爱的galgame

亚洲大学生看起来好幼 出局特殊性癖者 出局

私人平台你管他怎样认定young-looking,不爽不要用，去找更开放自由的平台啊

dlsite dmm表示欣慰

犯罪预备军

管这个是有科学根据吗?

欧美20几岁看起来就跟40几一样难怪会觉得亚洲都是萝莉zzzz

政治正确魔人该高潮了

欧美有够恶心www

禁止儿童色情没什么啊！但是问题是禁止的标准如果太自由心证，连JK都算儿童就...(ry

路还长

别忘了日系一堆角色根本是拿JK年龄下去设定的 火烧起来一样出局 进一步说SJW当初可是连电影的上床运镜都可以

G胖也被SJW打倒了吗

吵成说是男性凝视物化女性 让这些极端人士坐大将来呵呵

管到创作就太假掰了啊，游戏里大家不也天天在杀人，难道杀人比较不严重吗

暴力血腥>>色情 懂

儿童色情在欧美本来就是大忌,他们保守派的更反

每次都会有人说怎么不去救现实中的儿童而在禁止创作物阿谁说人家没在救的XD

阿就要禁人的国家对儿童施暴的案件数比被他们要求禁的国家高啊

管二次元根本就笑话，连受害者都没有，是想保护谁?

有救结果案件还一堆结果全部怪到ACG头上真的很好笑

就柿子挑软的吃啊，他有种说因为校园枪击案频发所以以后游戏禁止出现枪械吗

案件数比较高(X) 比较会通报(O)

88888

DOA玛莉罗斯表示

台湾鼓励对小孩家暴削剥的法治下 就是鬼父虐童一堆

推 儿童色情真的超恶心

笑死人 你干脆说犯罪率高的地方都是比较会通报的地方算了

萝莉控崩溃画个巨乳大性感姐姐不就没事情了= =，硬要画幼女干嘛

重点是你的巨乳大姐姐在欧美的标准是巨乳萝莉不要以为欧美跟亚洲标准一样只禁幼女，那边非幼女标准我看只有脸上有皱纹的才不是幼女

小火车开着开着也能翻车 马的

http://i.imgur.com/nFEjDqh.jpg快下架巫师3阿

二次元圈就最好欺负的啊 宅男自己都在内斗还一副让外人管来管去都没差的样子

内斗XDD 那像甲圈一样团结好不好? 外人是啥? 非人类?

就非宅啊 我讲得很难懂吗 话说团结有什么不好谁知道是不是之后也要禁怪性癖或是其他犯罪题材我看打药、迷奸的也先禁一禁 以免宅男仿效==

有可能，以后只有纯爱，而且日系画风大概要人妻类才算成年JK本来就未成年本来就Out了

画个萝莉说他20岁开搞可以吗

我会说你爱搞就搞 反正我是不会去支持的 厂商自然会改

人类的法律还满有趣的，高中生年纪能做爱但是不能被画做爱

美国这种嘴唸经 手摸奶的伪善行为就跟护家盟一样可笑的是台湾人还学西方种族歧视那一套来压迫台湾人会去东南亚嫖雏妓的不正是一堆白人嘛 笑死人

啊不都十八岁了w

保守派其实原本不反的圣经带自己都用结婚玩真的

拿甲圈就是因为一致对外 都不对付自家老鼠屎的 结果呢？？