楼主:
vikk33 (陈V)
2018-07-24 17:13:05https://goo.gl/HPJ6qF
[Feature] Gender Inequity in My Hero Academia
简单来说
就是设定上 个性 能力 分配男女不同
女的太弱太刻板
SJW森77 要抓狂了
转录原文如下
My Hero Academia is one of my favorite series in recent years. Thanks to its
compelling, lovable cast and exciting world-building, it’s some of the most
fun I’ve ever had with shounen and superheroes. Regrettably, though, it’s
not entirely free of some of the most frustrating (and typical) shounen
stereotypes that frequently undermine its strong female cast.
To some extent, My Hero Academia goes against conventions by giving the
female characters diverse Quirks (superpowers) that rarely conform to those
of supporting roles. Yet it doesn’t push too hard when it comes to putting
them into action. Most characters have limitations that prevent their Quirks
from getting too overpowered, but when there are exceptions, they’re all
remarkably male. Even without taking One For All—a special quirk that
accumulates power passed down through generations—into account, male
characters like Todoroki, Bakugo, or Endeavor are portrayed as being far
above everyone else.
The girls from the main cast receive far less recognition, mostly because they
’re often relegated to the background. While there are also boys who don’t
have much time in the spotlight, the series still finds endless opportunities
to highlight plenty of its male characters, which hardly ever happens with
the girls. As a side effect, this also means that MHA, perhaps
unintentionally, doesn’t always take the girls’ Quirks seriously, resulting
in limitations that sometimes don’t even make sense.
A Quirk as deadly as Ashida’s acid production should be regarded as a
serious threat, but it never seems to do much. Toru, the invisible girl, is
basically an ongoing joke. But even more glaring is how the series fails to
realize the true potential of Momo, who can create anything as long as she
knows its components. At the end of the day, no girl is portrayed as anywhere
close to the power levels or growth potential of many of their male peers.
Compared to them, the girls are hardly ever provided with opportunities to
distinguish themselves.
This is even more noticeable in the tournament arc, when plenty of characters
finally get a chance to shine, including the girls. Ochako’s fight against
Bakugo focuses on confronting the audience’s sexism while acknowledging
Ochako as an opponent worthy of respect. In the other matches, the boys that
underestimate their female opponents suffer quick, crushing defeats.
This implies a self-awareness of one of shounen’s most common tropes: boys
are stronger and more capable than girls. The first stage of the tournament
seems focused on challenging this particular trope, but while it succeeds in
highlighting this inequity, it ultimately does nothing to resolve it, and
instead perpetuates it with full awareness.
While Ochako emerges from her defeat motivated to expand on her skill set,
her match doesn’t leave any lasting effects. As the tournament advances
toward the finals, the rest of the girls are quickly eliminated, leaving the
serious, exciting fights to the boys. Even though the girls show notable
talent, when the tournament ends, it’s the boys who get all the top
spots.
My Hero Academia’s shortcomings with the girls from its main cast are also
present in the professional field. Midnight and Mt. Lady are the most
prominent pro heroines introduced to the audience thus far, and neither of
them shows competence comparable to the male pro heroes, nor do they inspire
the same level of admiration.
We have yet to see pro heroines get things done (in a way that’s also taken
seriously by the series) like we have with All Might, Endeavor, Eraserhead,
and so on. With Mt. Lady and Midnight, we mostly just get moments of
clumsiness or flirtation, all meant to serve as comedy or fanservice.
The internship arc introduced pro heroine Uwabami, yet it regrettably didn’t
give her anything to do on the field. She only serves to give us a little
look into the commercial side of heroism—an aspect of the hero profession
that’s later portrayed as fundamentally destructive and corrupt during the
Stain arc. This lack of pro heroine action in the field gives the impression
that they aren’t as capable and exciting as pro heroes. This is further
reinforced by the first-year students’ internships. Most of those who had it
under pro heroes got productive, exciting experiences. Meanwhile, those under
pro heroines ended up disappointed.
At its worst, My Hero Academia doesn’t just ignore its female cast: it
brings them forward solely for the purpose of reinforcing tired stereotypes.
One example is the talk show segment from one of Season 2’s cold opens,
which manages to commit several offenses despite its brevity. Featuring Mt.
Lady and Midnight as guests, we learn that the latter’s debut was seeing as
so scandalous it inspired a costume regulation bill. Then, Midnight starts
discussing the difficulties the censure imposes on heroes whose powers are
obstructed by clothes (which brings characters like Momo to mind).
The segment seemed like an interesting idea at first, especially considering
the series’ poor treatment of “sexy” female characters up to this point.
We can see that with Midnight herself, who doesn’t have much development
outside of being a BDSM-themed pro heroine. And, on the student side of
things, other characters often leer at Momo’s costume—while she’s either
unaware or embarrassed if she notices—and she’s targeted by Mineta more
than the rest of the girls, mostly because she shows more skin for the sake
of her Quirk.
Discouragingly, the TV show segment decides to keep ignoring those issues and
instead prioritizes tropes that further undermine the pro heroines. Mt. Lady
and Midnight end up in a cliche “cat fight” before actually having a
discussion, reinforcing the harmful idea that powerful women are unable to
get along. To add insult to injury, the scene ends with a “punchline” as we
cut to Mineta, of all people, watching with excitement.
It’s an especially frustrating conclusion given that Mineta’s very
existence is My Hero Academia’s worst crime. He is the personification of
one of the most troubling tropes in shounen storytelling: sexual harassment
and assault as a source of humor.
The series tries to utilize this archetype with some attempted
self-awareness. It acknowledges that Mineta’s disrespect of the girls’
boundaries is a bad thing, and he’s constantly called out by his classmates.
When he crosses the line with the girls, they usually punish him. However,
none of this means anything if the series shows no meaningful consequences
for his actions, especially from individuals of authority such as the school
faculty.
With Mineta’s final exam, the series takes an even more unsettling stand.
There, he’s portrayed as a surprisingly hard-working student, just like the
rest of his classmates. His motivation to “become popular” with women is
even treated with certain levels of sympathy. There’s nothing wrong with
wanting to impress the gender you’re attracted to, of course, but promoting
such motivation in a character who frequently sexually harasses (if not
outright assaults) his female peers perpetuates ideas that threaten women’s
comfort and safety. Instead of correcting his behavior, the series silently
approves of it by continuing to portray him in a humorous rather than
malicious light.
My Hero Academia certainly has issues with the way it treats its female
characters, which takes something away from my enjoyment of the series.
However, I must also acknowledge that, at times, it does seem to have its
heart in the right place. We can see that in Ochako’s motivation to become a
pro heroine and earn money to help her family, in her fight against Bakugo,
or in the very relatable character arc that Momo had after under-performing
in the tournament.
It’s also notable in the characterization of most of the girls; they feel
like well-rounded people that I would love to hang out with. Whether it’s
their cool personality and judgment, sense of humor, kindness, or the general
positivity some impart to others, the girls have qualities that make it easy
to connect and care for them.
I love My Hero Academia despite its flaws, in part because of how much I like
its girls, but also because it truly understands what makes the concept of “
heroes” so appealing. The heroes it promotes are hardworking people, moved
by their desire to be the best version of themselves and help those who need
them. MHA realizes that a hero can’t always save everyone, but it encourages
them to keep fighting for those they can. Those ideals can motivate everyone,
regardless of gender, to always give their very best. It’s a series with a
lot of heart, which is why so many of its characters resonate.
As much as I love it, I still believe the series would greatly improve if it
allowed its female characters to take on bigger roles in the action. However,
simply giving them more time in the spotlight wouldn’t fix the problems the
series has with them. For that, it would need to maintain the same level of
insight it had when Ochako stood in front of Bakugo during the tournament,
despite her fears and everyone’s doubts about her abilities. Very much like
it challenged the audience’s low expectations of her, the series needs to
more often challenge its own hesitance to let its female characters stand on
their own, outside of comedy and fanservice, when it matters most.
My Hero Academia is an ongoing series. I believe that it can do better, and I
’m glad it has the chance to do so.
作者:
forsakesheep (家裡蹲é¯å»¢è‚¥å®…)
2018-07-24 17:14:00你都知道SJW就是一群XX了,为什么还要转他们的废话
作者:
tw15 (巴拉巴拉)
2018-07-24 17:14:00作者:其实那些女角的都4性别光谱正确人士
作者: qaz223gy (亚阿相界) 2018-07-24 17:14:00
==无言
作者:
Sechslee (ï½·ï¾€â”â”(゚∀゚)â”â”!!)
2018-07-24 17:15:00SJW反对的事情一定是对的
作者:
Xavy (グルグル回る)
2018-07-24 17:15:00标题那两个字很容易进桶喔 先提醒你
作者:
ihateants (Naruhodoh)
2018-07-24 17:16:00就是个拿人开刀的玩意儿,开头还一个爱之深责之切的伪善文法,我都想吐了
作者:
iam0718 (999)
2018-07-24 17:17:00这些正义战士真的很无聊
作者:
a2334436 (<lol>)
2018-07-24 17:17:00左胶心目中的英雄学院要有白人 黑人 黄种人 残疾人还有LGBT
下一篇:我的英雄学院物化女性 C罩杯以下的不超过3人
楼主:
vikk33 (陈V)
2018-07-24 17:18:00标题已改 感谢提醒
作者: j54353 (kk) 2018-07-24 17:18:00
不要偷改title嘛
作者:
juzowa (喔是喔)
2018-07-24 17:19:00SJW起手式:我其实是很喜欢XXX 但(下略千字 妈的不爽不会不要看喔
作者:
LiNcUtT (典)
2018-07-24 17:21:00作者:
gaym19 (best689tw)
2018-07-24 17:21:00神经病
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:21:00女的太弱!? 渡我表示:更别提欧叔的师傅是个女的(虽然死了)
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:23:00我反而觉得女的很多能力超强 只是不给戏份而已...
作者:
moonlind (又多了敷脸卡跟觅食卡了~)
2018-07-24 17:24:00比起这个 我认为 女角强得跟外挂一样 但是为了男主怎样都没关系 才是踩红线吧
作者:
exrck (神奇皮卡)
2018-07-24 17:25:00确实是这样阿,那种会爆炸会喷火的强力技能都装在男的身上
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:26:00会认为会爆炸喷火就是很强的能力也太肤浅了吧隐形人能力强不强? 渡我的变身能力强不强?
作者:
exrck (神奇皮卡)
2018-07-24 17:27:00以表面上来看嘛
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:27:00男的都是表面上强悍硬干的能力 女的多是应用很广的能力
作者:
GOBS (GodOfBullShit)
2018-07-24 17:27:00怎么不说变大这多少男性想要的能力居然是女性持有?
作者: chrischow107 (拜拜,我的朋友:)) 2018-07-24 17:28:00
不是都有龙九这种变成龙的强力个性了
楼主:
vikk33 (陈V)
2018-07-24 17:28:00作者:
dephille (一鍼同体!全力全快!)
2018-07-24 17:28:00我觉得最做坏的应该是创造吧w
女生自己来画一部英雄漫画好嘛?只想让人施舍平等给妳
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:28:00坏里的退化更是imba中的imba
作者:
gaym19 (best689tw)
2018-07-24 17:29:00坏理不是退化 是还原
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:29:00八百万的创造就是太强了 只好从心态上nerf他...
作者: chrischow107 (拜拜,我的朋友:)) 2018-07-24 17:29:00
要说刻板印象 SJW才是用刻板印象再挑毛病吧
作者: dm03 (莫宰羊) 2018-07-24 17:30:00
女生反派很强啊 最吸睛女角
作者: dm03 (莫宰羊) 2018-07-24 17:32:00
女主倒是有点太影薄
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:32:00我是觉得如果吐槽女性这么多强力能力而没戏分反而比较有打到要害 女性设定强力的超多...
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:34:00肥宅有这能力应该可以创造女友没问题
八百万这能力强到歪头,但是漫画里面好像没什么意识到
作者:
naugje (回甘就是炫泡)
2018-07-24 17:34:00最近出现的杀人兔也是女的,看起来就是肉体强化系,还有会超炫炮龙化的龙九跟螺旋波动的学姊…
作者:
ppo7741 (阿甫)
2018-07-24 17:35:00脑子有洞
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:36:00八百万就是被作者设定心态很弱 所以能力强但不懂发挥
作者:
ppo7741 (阿甫)
2018-07-24 17:36:00欧尔麦特师傅就是一个伟大的女性到底是有没有看
创造有条件好不好,除了脂肪还要了解该物品的材质,拿里bug啊?
作者:
aaron97 (康娜她爸)
2018-07-24 17:37:00真的是一堆屁欸
作者: owlrex (Sidro) 2018-07-24 17:38:00
才几岁就要上战场厮杀 日本学生都是怪物 (抖)
作者:
brianoj (马可先生)
2018-07-24 17:41:00这群神经病就挑了女性比较弱的漫画来鞭怎么不说LL跟BGD的男人都死光了 魔法少女动画都没男生
作者:
asabase (大切な未来み)
2018-07-24 17:45:00这个脑袋真的坏掉 超好笑
作者:
brianoj (马可先生)
2018-07-24 17:45:00女角比男角多的作品满坑满谷 阿你要挑我英不就很会
作者:
Simonfenix (Livingfailure)
2018-07-24 17:45:00左胶怎样都能黏就是了
作者:
juzowa (喔是喔)
2018-07-24 17:45:00LL有男的啊 虽然果皇爸没露全脸就是了
作者:
Telemio (Telemio)
2018-07-24 17:46:00他说的部分是事实 我英男生普遍比女生强 就表现而言
作者:
minoru04 (华山派巴麻美)
2018-07-24 17:46:00男权要不要去抗议魔法少女都是女生啊
作者:
Telemio (Telemio)
2018-07-24 17:47:00像叶隐到现在除了执照篇几乎没什么特别表现那后面有些论点我就懒得看了 什么Mt.Lady跟午夜打架这种catfight隐喻有权力的女性都没办法彼此沟通
作者:
brianoj (马可先生)
2018-07-24 17:48:00叶隐的能力用作谍报应该超强,只是这部现在都走硬A流
作者:
Telemio (Telemio)
2018-07-24 17:48:00根本是滑坡 下面好像还有在检讨峰田的 我也懒得看只不过男生比女生强不只少年慢漫 综观绝大数影视娱乐应该
作者:
brianoj (马可先生)
2018-07-24 17:49:00一直打打打那当然是战斗系的能力高大上
作者:
Telemio (Telemio)
2018-07-24 17:49:00都还是存在这种事情殊不知男生也很希望像雷光 2B这种女英雄多出现一点哈哈
作者:
AlianF (左手常驻模式)
2018-07-24 17:49:00上上代OFA不就女的?哪里弱了?
作者:
brianoj (马可先生)
2018-07-24 17:51:00还不推荐SJW看火星蟑螂,仇女价值满点
作者:
good74152 (警视厅刑事部废文搜查官)
2018-07-24 17:52:00看羽球战争阿 都女的爽了没
作者:
bluecsky (我要蓝蓝淡淡的天空)
2018-07-24 17:55:00不只断手指 整只手都断过了...
作者:
anumber (Everlasting GuiltyCrown)
2018-07-24 17:55:00马的SJW到底想要什么啊
作者:
minoru04 (华山派巴麻美)
2018-07-24 17:56:00女角不够多不够强--歧视女性 都是萌女角--物化女性
作者:
GAOTT (杜鹃)
2018-07-24 18:00:00楼上逻辑是不是有问题 拿两个不冲突的假装有冲突?
作者:
GAOTT (杜鹃)
2018-07-24 18:01:00女角不够多不够强--歧视女性 女角太多太强--物化女性这才叫有冲突 懂?????????????萌女角跟多跟强是有什么关联喇zzz
作者:
minoru04 (华山派巴麻美)
2018-07-24 18:02:00不懂 没兴趣理你
作者:
GAOTT (杜鹃)
2018-07-24 18:02:00都是丑女--歧视女性 都是萌女角--物化女性 这才叫有冲突不懂就闭嘴
作者:
minoru04 (华山派巴麻美)
2018-07-24 18:05:00单纯对你没兴趣要吵架可以去找别人
作者:
choco7 (巧克七男孩)
2018-07-24 18:06:00作者:
RX11 (RX_11)
2018-07-24 18:11:00他也没说拿那两个出来是表达冲突阿 到底在激动什么
作者:
yudofu (豆腐)
2018-07-24 18:13:00要政治正确去看你们的美漫啦
我英就不行,看家教之类的花瓶女主会不会吐血身亡XD
作者:
anxcvi (学长)
2018-07-24 18:16:00女拳同路人ㄎㄎ
配个个性就可以呱呱叫,创造和无重力都是Boss候补,纯粹先给限制而已
作者: stardust7011 2018-07-24 18:26:00
打这么长谁他妈看的完. jpg
作者: qoouow (柯藤凱) 2018-07-24 18:30:00
ㄏ 好哦
作者:
MasCat (帅猫咪)
2018-07-24 18:39:00没有黑人 没有同性恋 没有穆斯林 不能抽菸喝酒 不能见血不能有任何疑似性暗示
作者:
choco7 (巧克七男孩)
2018-07-24 18:40:00是不是看到前十排名很不爽啊
作者: Bachack000 2018-07-24 18:41:00
八百万极强吧
作者:
chuckni (SHOUGUN)
2018-07-24 18:42:00不是才刚出一只战力超高的兔子
作者:
diabolica (打回大師å†æ”¹ID)
2018-07-24 18:48:00果然又有机动战士
作者:
g9122xj (g9122xj)
2018-07-24 18:51:00神经病吗?
这只是日本的 搞不好美国英雄女生超强啊XSXD往好处想其实够红才会被盯上 所以我英在欧美地位就是强XD
作者: eightyseven (他的手可以穿过我的巴巴) 2018-07-24 18:59:00
问题一堆 = =再来呢?要求增加黑人跟拉丁裔角色吗?
作者:
brianoj (马可先生)
2018-07-24 19:07:00坏理那个也不是很直观的治疗学长差点变成废人…
作者:
j147589 ((joyisbitch))
2018-07-24 19:19:00八百万你跟我说弱
坏理那个不叫治疗回复好吗……那是把你的人生70等一路往1等砍回去的回溯
客观事实是没错 但我会解释成我英主要想服务女性观众…
作者:
lv256 (等级256)
2018-07-24 19:58:00原来sjw是强度厨这样(?
作者:
sdamel (=ˇ=)
2018-07-24 20:14:00喜欢女权可以看妖精的旋律啊
作者:
arubaru (阿鲁巴鲁)
2018-07-24 20:22:00我还以为在看美国实境秀
作者: a904472000 (我只想当个废物晒太阳) 2018-07-24 20:34:00
弱?八百万能力超万用好吗
作者:
bestteam (wombat是胖胖熊)
2018-07-24 20:44:00还是FGO最平等了
作者: luleen (lululeen) 2018-07-24 22:06:00
智障又来了
还是F/GO最平等了 五星强角除了黑狗跟天草全是女的忘记小太阳惹
sjw可以自己创作一部属于他们心目中的漫画啊 这样不是很好
作者:
stapia (91stacia39)
2018-07-24 22:45:00Marvel更严重好吗==
作者: Sunblacktea (阳光红茶) 2018-07-25 00:11:00
别的作品不举举我英 我英已经是算很平等的了吧