[闲聊] Reddit上有人花48万台币KS了150个桌游

楼主: GP03D (总统府防御用MA)   2018-03-03 03:19:33
我在搜寻gloomhaven的时候发现有这篇香港fb上的文章翻译
我只有买过一次Kick starter桌游
原因无他,KS游戏价格都很贵
次因是要等很久才可能会寄来
通常成功的作品之后都会上市
(第七大陆目前就还没有>.<)
上市后的价格就会有折扣
至于这位仁兄花了美金$16000后的感想是:
以下为转贴文章:
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[翻译] Backed 150 KS Boardgame ,我后悔了! (After backing 150 board games on
Kickstarter, regret finally sets in
原文: http://mashable.com/2017/09/14/kickstarter-board-games/#Sd.IOE6XZiqN
原文中的原文: https://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/700jrz/an_epiphany_
after_25_years_backing_board_games_on/
“Over the past two-and-a-half years, Reddit user Ranker2 has spent more than
$16,000 backing more than 150 board game projects on Kickstarter. It turns out
it wasn't worth it.”
这两年半以来, Reddit (注#外国有名讨论区) 一位用户 Ranker2 在KS 上花了 $16000
购买超过150款桌游, 他最后得出来的答案是 - “不值得”。
In a Reddit post titled "An epiphany after 2.5 years backing board games on Ki
ckstarter,"Ranker2 wrote about their habit of backing board games on Kickstart
er, how it became a sort of addiction, and how they recently came to the reali
zation that most of the board games they backed weren't even enjoyable.
在一个名为 “KS Boardgame 2年半的领悟” 的讨论上, Ranker2 写下他 KS 桌游的经
历,由习惯变为上瘾。机缘叫他回顾一下,却发觉大部份游戏他一点都不喜欢。
"I reviewed my [Kickstarter] backed list to take inventory on what has or hasn
't been delivered when it hit me: most of the games I had backed are terrible
or don't get much play," Ranker2 wrote. "While there may be a dozen that the b
oard gaming community may agree were successes, it doesn't mean that THAT type
of game or genre was something I enjoyed. Going through the list, I was able
to count on one hand how many of those 100+ Kickstarted board games I liked."
“我为了检查到货的情况,我走到KS网页查看我支持了的项目。暮然回首 ,我发觉有很
多游戏是十分差劲,很少出场。” Ranker 续道 :“ 虽然这些游戏都是大众所支持推
崇或是定位为成功好玩的游戏,但这不代表游戏是我喜爱的一类。要时在这个KS名单上点
算我喜欢的游戏, 一只手掌都数得晒。”
Ranker2 followed up on his post with a comment listing every project they back
ed and how much they paid to back it.
Ranker2 在之后留言列出他支持了的项目及资助额。(我放到最后,不想占版面)
How did it get this bad? Ranker2 said it was their fear of missing out (FOMO)
on a potentially good game or a game that other people in the board game commu
nity were excited about.
Ranker2 尝试解释为什么会出现这个状况,他认为是”害怕错过的感觉” (fear of miss
ing out)驱使他这样做,他害怕会错过一款潜力游戏或是失去错过一款桌游圈子会雀跃的
游戏。
"Kickstarting games felt as if I was part of this insider club with first snea
k peeks at board games that the general population wasn't even aware of," Rank
er2 wrote. "I would monitor the [Kickstarter] Roundup almost religiously. As t
ime progressed, I kept Kickstarting more and more due to the fear of missing o
ut ... I even backed projects simply because they had a large number of backer
s — obviously the game must be great or else so many people wouldn't have bac
ked it right?"
“KS 游戏给我的感觉就像桌游界的内幕。游戏会首次曝光,却没有太多玩桌游的人会留
意。” Ranker2写到: “我逛KS 就好像信仰一样,每周都会去参加崇拜。随着时间经过
,害怕错过的感觉使我不断不断地KS...有时支持的原因只是单纯项目有很多支持者,但
一个项目有很多支持者不是代表他会很好吗?要不然怎会有人支持。”
Ranker2 also wrote about how Kickstarting board games usually ends up saving b
uyers a bit of money, especially if they have to resort to buying the game or
add-ons through eBay.
Ranker2也提到,特别是收藏家,KS游戏通常会比在ebay 后追便宜一点。
Backing board games became a bit of an addiction, Ranker 2 wrote. Perhaps this
stems from Kickstarter being a bit of a gamble — you're paying for an unfini
shed project with the hope that it will prove to be great. But there's always
a chance that the Kickstarter will fall through or just fail to meet expectati
ons.
购买游戏是会上瘾的。某程度上KS 就好像一场赌博,你在投资一项未完成的游戏,期望
他会有好的成果,但我们不能无视失败或是出现落差的机会。
"Doing the math, it seems like the winning move is to sit back, let the brave
souls sort out the wheat from the chaff, and pay the eBay tax when a winner co
mes along," Ranker2 wrote. "I'd have a lot more money on my hands not to menti
on a lot more shelf space."
Sounds like a good plan.
计一计数,如果想节省金钱应该停止KS,多花一点钱后追优良合适的游戏会比乱石投林来
得更便宜,哪些沧海唯珠就留给”勇者”吧。Ranker2 最后说 “以上还没有计算我花在
收纳储存的钱呢!”
(香港桌游FB群组的)小编感想:
其实这状况又怎会只出现在KS 中呢?当你有100盒桌游 或者100个电玩游戏,总有数款是
90分的,其他游戏假约也有80分,往后出场的机会率都会变少,或是你会感到他不够好。
不论社会及游戏,都是会随时间不断进步。在我而言,KS 的问题倒是 一个2年前的构思
,2年后真的还创新吗?还震撼有趣吗?会不会有其他代替品比你更早出现呢?
文章中心的主旨是希望大家不要因为”害怕错失”而去乱买一通。这想法我十分支持,不
竟KS主要是以KS Exclusive 及 SG 为招来,支持者住住都害怕这个感觉而KS 了。但如果
是羊群心理去支持,买到失败作其实与人无尤。如果已经做足功课,看了这个收了工的KS
情报科道出游戏的坏处也要去支持,小编相信收到游戏的时候,还是会雀跃万分的。
最后 -
给自己多一点自信,谨慎去选择,相信你的眼光,支持别人的概念。
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这位仁兄的back list文章里也有,不过太多了,我就不贴了。
作者: Joshuajill (子云)   2018-03-03 07:04:00
KS令人不爽的是,有些明明是旧游戏,透过增加一些奖励、扩充就包装成新游戏,像画廊经理人就是,虽然多了一些小扩充,但打开后发现根本都有受潮发霉的状况,还有两城之间也是...这些都是桌游界的黑暗,令人失望!
作者: S209 (D.P.)   2018-03-03 08:47:00
别人的游戏最好玩:)
作者: kib82330 (kib82330)   2018-03-03 10:54:00
太中肯的文章,只能含泪推了…
作者: yowei5678 (小鸢)   2018-03-03 12:26:00
有些不针对KS,换句话说可以套用至所以桌游吧
作者: sleeprice (睡米)   2018-03-03 12:43:00
不晓得台湾募资环境会跟上吗?
作者: tony332976 (tony)   2018-03-03 13:06:00
原来有旧游戏集资喔?
作者: whatai (多多)   2018-03-03 13:51:00
画廊经理人是旧游戏重出?????
作者: fish000542 (对面就是面包店)   2018-03-03 14:17:00
桌游本来就是这样阿 又不是只有KS
作者: YuLuM (蝴蝶页)   2018-03-03 16:47:00
赚钱第一啊!你看圣托也是顾著出 promo 捞钱但却跟你说没时间更新 PnP 啊
作者: martian001 (幻之雪狐)   2018-03-03 20:09:00
真的会害怕错过>"<
作者: rogerjj (宅猫)   2018-03-03 22:59:00
呃....1F没误会吗? :P
作者: whatai (多多)   2018-03-04 00:17:00
可能跟大师画廊搞混了
作者: cactus44 (钢弹仔)   2018-03-04 11:44:00
现在KS就桌游界的捞钱主力啊...一堆游戏都先上ks后才出版的

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