只能说大联盟真的是很恐怖的地方
Sportsnet蓝鸟记者Arden Zwelling撰文分析了冈本目前17场比赛
对方投手对他丢的球
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It’s a fraught exercise to dive too deep into 17 games’ worth of plate appeara
nces, but even over this miniscule sample, trends have emerged.
深入分析仅仅17场比赛的打席其实风险很高,但即便样本极小,仍然已经出现了一些趋势
Clubs began the season challenging Okamoto with velocity. Over his first seven g
ames, Okamoto saw a fastball 56 per cent of the time. But over his 10 games sinc
e, Okamoto has been spammed with curveballs and sliders. Since the beginning of
the month, 40 per cent of the pitches Okamoto has seen have been breaking balls
— the second-highest rate on the Blue Jays.
各队在球季初期主要用速球来测试冈本,前7场比赛中,他有56%的球是速球
但在接下来的10场比赛里,他则被大量投以曲球与滑球,本月以来他面对的球种有40%是变
化球——这是蓝鸟队内第二高的比例
That makes intuitive sense. Okamoto didn’t face premium, MLB-level heat regular
ly over his last eight years in NPB. In the early going, the league forced him t
o prove he can catch up to it. And once he did — eight of Okamoto’s first nine
hits came off fastballs — pitchers adjusted to see how well he can recognize s
pin.
这其实很合理,冈本在过去8年日职生涯中,并没有经常面对大联盟等级的顶级速球,开季
初期大联盟投手先逼他证明自己能跟上速球,而当他做到之后——前9支安打中有8支来自速
球——投手便开始调整,改测试他辨识变化球的能力
That’s been more difficult. Okamoto entered this week’s series in Milwaukee wi
th only one hit off a breaking ball this season — an opening-day flare to shall
ow left-centre for his first MLB base hit — plus a team-high 50 per cent whiff
rate against curveballs and sliders. A heat map of where all those breaking pitc
hes have been located tells its own story:
这一点对他来说就困难多了,本周对上密尔瓦基前,冈本本季面对变化球只有1支安打——
开幕战击向左中外野浅区的落点安打,也是他大联盟生涯首安——而且对曲球与滑球的挥空
率高达全队最高的50%,至于这些变化球的落点热区图,也说明了一切
https://i.imgur.com/ppVPbsU.jpeg
Okamoto’s strength over his NPB career was pulling pitches in the air for power
while utilizing enough selectivity to run double-digit walk rates and making en
ough contact around the zone to minimize strikeouts. Think Isaac Paredes. A pitc
her’s obvious counter to that is living down-and-away with spin. Locate effecti
vely enough to generate a swing and out-front hitters such as Okamoto or Paredes
are likely to create weak contact off the end of their bats or whiff entirely.
冈本在日职时期的强项,是将球拉打成高飞球形成长打,同时具备良好的选球能力,能维持
双位数保送率,并在好球带附近有足够的contact能力来降低三振率
可以把他想像成Isaac Paredes这种类型的打者,对付这种打者,投手最直接的策略就是用
变化球攻击外角低位置,只要控球到位、诱使出棒,像冈本或Paredes这种出棒较早的打者
,很容易击中球棒前端形成软弱击球,甚至直接挥空
But Okamoto showed encouraging signs of adjusting back late in Tuesday’s wacky,
roller-coaster victory over the Brewers. In a 1-1 count against Angel Zerpa in
the seventh, Okamoto anticipated a slider away, stayed on it, and sent a groundb
all single back up the middle. Then, against Trevor Megill in the ninth, he look
ed at a couple of curveballs beneath the zone before seeing one high enough to c
hop through the left side of a drawn-in infield and tie a game.
不过在周二对战酿酒人的戏剧性胜利后段,冈本也展现出调整的正面迹象,第七局面对Ange
l Zerpa时,在1好1坏的情况下,他预判外角滑球并跟进击球,将球打成中间方向的滚地安
打
接着在第九局对上Trevor Megill时,他先选掉几颗落在好球带下方的曲球,之后逮到一颗
偏高的球,敲向左侧内野穿越趋前守备,追平比分
Okamoto saw a team-high 19 breaking balls during that Brewers series — 10 of th
em outside the strike zone. But he chased only two of those pitches. And when Br
andon Sproat missed over the plate with an 0-2 sweeper in Thursday’s second inn
ing, Okamoto pounced and drove it 379 feet to right-centre. Milwaukee’s America
n Family Field held it. But it would have been a home run at half of MLB’s 30 b
allparks, including Rogers Centre.
在那个系列赛中,冈本总共面对全队最多的19颗变化球,其中有10颗在好球带外,但他只追
打了其中2颗,而在周四第二局,当Brandon Sproat在0好2坏时投出一颗失投滑球进入好球
带,冈本毫不犹豫出棒,将球击向右中外野379英尺,虽然在American Family Field被接杀
,但如果是在30座大联盟球场中约一半的球场——包括Rogers Centre——这球其实都会形
成全垒打
作者:
goury 2026-04-17 22:34:00这就不得不想起以前的笑话,日职速球不够强但变化球比MLB强
作者:
johnwu (就是酱)
2026-04-17 22:35:00日本球员应该很会打变化球吧?
作者:
StODf (双毛)
2026-04-17 22:37:00部长QQ
作者:
l810502 (欧欧)
2026-04-17 22:37:00Mason Miller 95mph的变速球,怎么说
日职就整天东摸西摸,牵制,投个球,晚餐都吃完了WBC被打爆也是预期的事
作者:
sesd (囧)
2026-04-17 22:39:00日职均速还输大联盟5KM
作者:
sasmwh561 (卡尔卡诺m9138)
2026-04-17 22:40:00这篇让我觉得大谷更神兽惹
作者:
goury 2026-04-17 22:41:00MLB 97迈的变速球(类似日职传统定义的伸卡),怎么打??
作者:
caseywvt (zxcasey)
2026-04-17 22:43:00试探
作者:
sesd (囧)
2026-04-17 22:45:00李政厚确实有讲过 同样的话 超级快的变化球都吓傻了
作者: gijizi 2026-04-17 22:46:00
mlb103英里的伸卡直接投进去跟你拼,反正什么鬼变化球都有
作者:
tmc94 (T-MAC)
2026-04-17 22:46:00大联盟有的投手滑球比你速球还快
作者:
Yjizz (饶惹偶ㄚ激湿)
2026-04-17 22:47:00MLB的速球变化球都难上不少
像Misiorowski滑球最快97.4mph 平常96-97mph在跑
作者:
Yjizz (饶惹偶ㄚ激湿)
2026-04-17 22:48:00更快更刁钻的变化球
只有我看不懂56%跟40%那段吗 前面56%不就代表变化球
作者:
Shinpn (黑狗兄)
2026-04-17 22:51:00好的投手就是要用100%的直球对决
作者:
arexne (R U MINE?)
2026-04-17 22:52:00安可现在也是阿 垒上有人就请吃全变化球套餐
MLB是变了 现在单纯拼挥空 看是用共轨还是速差骗你不然单纯火球还是很有机会被打成安打
作者:
NdFe35 (不yi外)
2026-04-17 22:55:00我猜应该是分成fastball offspeed breaking 这三种
作者:
shoe 2026-04-17 22:56:00写错吧,后面大概是40%速球60%变化球比较符合叙述
作者:
NdFe35 (不yi外)
2026-04-17 22:58:00作者:
MK47 (和牛第一)
2026-04-17 23:00:00你被翻译误导了 一般分类是像N大讲的 速球系、breaking ball
作者: CCY2000 2026-04-17 23:00:00
感觉在玩统计写新闻而已 变化没那么明显
作者:
MK47 (和牛第一)
2026-04-17 23:01:00(曲球、滑球类)、off-speed ball(变速、指叉) 只是中文常把后面那两种统称变化球 所以你才会不知道那段在写什么虽然还是小样本 不过这个观察还是蛮有意思的 跟很多记者直觉上的报导显然不同 后续可以从这个角度观察看看484这样
作者: GABA (asdf) 2026-04-17 23:04:00
样本真的小 至少观察三个月
为什么不用100%的直球跟100%的冈本对决 给差评
作者:
apenguin (追着球球跑呀跑)
2026-04-17 23:13:00MLB本来就全方面赢日职啊 是少数日吹不想承认吧….才会硬说日职变化球好 守备比MLB细腻之类的事实上人家就是强力兼具稳定
作者:
Dimitre (迪米崔)
2026-04-17 23:20:00正常啊 乡民有网络就会分析了 球队都有专门后勤数据人员职业就是抓你弱点死里打 完全不给机会的
作者: wa782653 2026-04-17 23:28:00
加油 希望可以适应
作者: roger871004 2026-04-17 23:32:00
记得郑宗哲去年刚上大联盟对上Hunter Greene被100mph的速球k掉,这才是MLB的速球
作者:
lcy317 2026-04-17 23:33:00以往会有印象日职守备超强 跟MLB不相上下甚至更好但数据摊开来看就是并没有 其实还输一截尤其是守备范围跟臂力问题日职能稍微比的只有失误率
所以其实可以这么说了,职业棒球除了大联盟,其他顶多是农场,农场的作物或肥料或垃圾这样
作者:
yeng1217 (σ`∀′) ゚∀゚)σ)
2026-04-17 23:59:00本来就会分析打者了
作者: ssj1988 2026-04-18 00:32:00
MLB的投手 有的变化球比日职的直球还快= =
作者: Currice6677 2026-04-18 01:23:00
MLB到日职变鸟枪的也一堆啊 难道也
作者: james91718 2026-04-18 02:06:00
现役MLB球员就是最强的一群怪物
之前不是还有王粉说大联盟直球比例比较高,大王去大联盟成绩会比日职好
渼渼:知道他会打直球那我要用我100%的直球来对决
作者:
zzxzero (zzx)
2026-04-18 11:17:00再讲什么鬼?前面有56%是速球,他打速球出色,所以后来有高的40%比例的变化球对付他,干,这样不是速球比例变60%了吗