[情报] Hollinger's NBA 选秀杂谈 拓会动#3吗?

楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 10:11:47
前言:跳着翻译跟拓荒者有关的段落,其他内容简易翻
来源: The Athletic, Josh Hollinger
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Hollinger’s NBA Draft Combine rumblings: What will Hornets do at No. 2? Will
Blazers trade No. 3?
火灵哥NBA选秀综合杂谈:黄蜂#2会怎么选? 拓荒者#3是否会交易呢?
CHICAGO — We have one month until the draft, everyone is here for an event
geared to prepare for the draft … and nobody is talking about the draft.
离今年选秀日还有一个月,大家都为了选秀焦头烂额,但...没人会把策略直接聊出来
Now that Victor Wembanyama’s fate has been determined, the eyes of execs,
staffers and coaches here for the NBA Draft Combine are already
fast-forwarding to a long, interesting offseason.
斑马的命运已经确定前往马刺,各球团高层教练组已经把心力放在漫长有趣的休赛季
Among the hot topics:
稍微提一下几个热门话题
Five — count ’em, five — coach openings, and desirable ones at that:
Milwaukee, Phoenix and Philadelphia all offer the prospect of immediate
contention; Toronto has money and isn’t tanking; and, um, Detroit. The
Pistons might have been able to fish in the elite Nick Nurse/Monty
Williams/Mike Budenholzer waters if they won the Wembanyama lottery; landing
fifth likely puts them in first-time coach territory. Will the other plum
jobs be musical chairs among those three names?
现在有“五个”教练空缺,公鹿/太阳/76人/暴龙/活塞,如果活塞抽到斑马,就可以
悠闲的Nick Nurse/Monty Williams/Mike Budenholzer里面慢慢挑了,可惜没如果
Whether the Clippers’ Tyronn Lue will extend that list of coach openings to
six or come to terms on a rich extension with LA. Lue only has one guaranteed
year left on his deal but has most of the leverage here, as he is quite
popular in rival front offices. The smart money seems to be on him staying.
快艇卢总会不会加上述名单,变成第六名教练空缺呢?
Washington’s slow-motion GM search, with news leaking so slowly that even
the term “leak” implies far too much velocity; this is, at best, an “ooze.
” Will the Wizards have a GM by the draft? By free agency? By November?
巫师总管还是空的,不知道哪时才会找到人选
The Ja Morant situation and how that might impact what other decisions the
Grizzlies make. If the league suspends him, what justification will it use,
and how long will he be sidelined? If it’s a big chunk of the season, how
does that impact the Grizzlies’ other offseason decisions?
Ja Morant二次玩枪事件会怎么影响灰熊的操作呢?
联盟这次禁赛又会用什么理由呢? 禁多长时间?
And, not least of all, the potential for a wild offseason of wheeling and
dealing after so many teams pushed their chips in only to fall miles short of
expectations in 2022-23. This comes just as the league’s free spenders are
greeted with a new CBA that includes fairly draconian penalties for
profligacy.
狂野的休赛季准备开始了,今年太多球队投入非常多资产却没有打出预期的成果。
同时新CBA开跑,准备惩罚超大团。
Relative to the draft, that last bullet point is perhaps the most relevant.
Several disappointed lottery teams are now in position to potentially trade
their pick, but a vexing question remains: Trade it for what? Which teams are
looking to throttle down and convert a star-caliber veteran into a draft
pick? Even teams that might get hammered by the new luxury-tax rules, such as
the Clippers and Warriors, don’t seem to be of a mind to just start shedding
talent.
最后一则选秀话题:多支乐透顺位的球队非常有可能交易他们的选秀签,但耐人寻味的
问题随之而来,你能交易到什么资产?哪些球团准备卖球星拆了?准备被新CBA搞的快艇
跟勇士队,目前似乎也不打算拆队。
One can argue there are teams that should be doing this, mind you, but sorry:
There does not appear to be any willpower for this type of step back in
places like, say, Chicago or Portland or Washington. Zach LaVine, Damian
Lillard and Bradley Beal aren’t walking through that door. Toronto seems
like the only team that might — might — entertain dealing elite wings for
draft capital. As we’ll see in a minute, this state of affairs puts one
lottery team in particular in a quandary.
或许公牛、拓荒者和巫师都应该这么做。LaVine, Lillard, Beal都没打进季后赛。
暴龙则很可能是唯一一支球队,能提供出优质侧翼交换选秀资产。
Actual NBA Draft, and trade, talk
接下来谈谈选秀概况跟交易可能性
Speaking of which: Before we stick our heads too far into July, however, let’
s shift gears back to June 22. We can speculate all we want about various
maybes in free agency and trades, but I guarantee you there will be a draft
on June 22 and that 58 players will be selected. Since the draft happens
before free agency, some of the plentiful thorny issues waiting on draft
night could have considerable domino effects on other teams’ summers.
Only one thing is in no doubt at all: The Spurs are taking Wembanyama with
the top pick. You can go ahead and tell the engraver to get started on that
one.
马刺不需要多谈,选斑马就对了
How the Spurs won the NBA Lottery: Inside the room where San Antonio's
fortunes changed
After that, things quickly get interesting. Among the scuttlebutt this week:
除了斑马,后面的顺位就开始有趣囉,这周的几个乳摸分享
‧ The draft starts with Charlotte and the second pick, where the Hornets are
likely choosing between point guard Scoot Henderson of G League Ignite and
small forward Brandon Miller of Alabama. While Henderson is in my judgment
the superior talent, playing him and LaMelo Ball in the same backcourt could
give the Hornets pause. Charlotte isn’t tipping its hand, nor should it; a
trade down to No. 3 is another possibility, but only sellable if the team at
No. 3 isn’t sure which player the Hornets want.
黄蜂 #2也不确定选Scoot Henderson 还是 Brandon Miller,都有可能,
甚至可以向下交易给 #3的那支球队,让别人先选择
‧ Note that I said “the team at No. 3” because of widespread speculation
the Trail Blazers, who currently own the pick, will seek to trade out of the
third position rather than select another young player. With Portland in “
win it for Dame” mode and the Blazers desperate for playable wings (even
presuming they re-sign Jerami Grant), speculation is already widespread that
a package of the third pick and Anfernee Simons might be used to snag an
elite small forward.
注意我用的措辞“#3 那支球队”,因为#3的持有球队拓荒者,正在寻求可以符合小李
时间线的侧翼球员,同时也会签下Grant,众所周知,拓荒者最可能提供的包裹就是
Anfernee Simons + #3 换 菁英等级小前锋
‧ My favorite fake trade, however, kills two birds with one stone by
resolving the Magic’s backcourt issue. Orlando holds pick Nos. 6 and 11 and
would likely be tempted to trade up and take Henderson if the Hornets select
Miller at No. 2. Could some combination of the sixth and 11th picks and
another asset allow the Magic to move up to No. 3?
火灵哥最喜欢的交易乳摸,拓荒者 #3 <> 魔术#6 + #11 + 其他资产。
但前提是黄蜂先选了Brandon Miller,魔术才能选Scoot Henderson来解决后场问题
The other half of this trade is that it would allow the Blazers to hedge
their bets by splitting their lottery pick in two. Imagine, for instance, a
scenario where the Blazers do this trade with Orlando, then deal the sixth
pick for immediate wing help but hang on to No. 11 and use it on Duke big man
Dereck Lively II. Of course, this still requires such a player to actually be
available, and parlaying the sixth pick into that player in particular could
prove problematic given that Houston and Detroit may want to do the same
thing at No. 4 and No. 5.
拓荒者可以用#6 选一位侧翼球员,#11选 Dereck Lively II这样的护框大个子
但有相对应的风险,火箭#4、活塞#5非常有可能把拓荒者想选的侧翼球员挑走
‧ Complicating the logic for Portland at No. 3 is that Houston at No. 4 is
likely pursuing the same alternative. In fact, the Rockets are arguably even
more in “win-now” mode than the Blazers, despite a young roster coming off
a 22-win season. This is because the Rockets owe a top-four protected
first-round pick to the Thunder as a result of the Chris Paul–Russell
Westbrook trade and thus have little incentive to take their lumps for
another season: It’s time to win. (Houston also owes a top-four protected
first from this deal in 2026, as well as a top-20 protected pick swap in
2025. Yikes.)
情况其实非常复杂,因为火箭#4 也想跟拓荒者做相同的事情,寻求Win-Now模式,
火箭首轮签在雷霆手上,没得好坦
The fourth pick (not to mention their other pick at No. 20) is unlikely to
advance that objective on a roster that already has seven first-round picks
still on their rookie contracts, plus a 23-year-old Kevin Porter Jr. and a
22-year-old Kenyon Martin Jr. It would seem there isn’t room on the roster
to add two more young players if the Rockets are serious about taking a step
forward. Houston’s dreams of repatriating James Harden are well-chronicled,
and the Rockets will want the rest of their $60 million in cap room and room
exception to sign some veteran help.
简单来说,火箭天赋爆了,选来也没时间练,更重要是追求James Harden回归跟如何利用
60M的薪资空间。
Of all the teams in the high lottery, Houston is the one that seemingly needs
to make a deal most urgently. The Rockets’ quandary, as noted above, is
whether there’s a player available who would justify such a high price, and
if so, whether the Blazers’ pick at No. 3 would trump them.
在高顺位几支球队中,火箭会是最需要立刻谈成交易的球队。火箭的问题是能否找到一名
球员适配如此高的资产价值,那拓荒者#3 是否会比火箭提供的包裹来得有吸引力呢?
‧ Picking fifth, Detroit is hoping to make a move up this season, but is
that realistic? The Pistons might be better off trying to add another piece
to the Jaden Ivey–Cade Cunningham–Jalen Duren core and seeing what they
have after a 17-win season a year ago. This isn’t a great season to tank it,
per se, with a blah 2024 class waiting, but it’s not clear how Detroit would
move up even if it went all-in on the idea. The Pistons’ core players need
to get better before that’s a realistic strategy.
Yes, Detroit could theoretically trade its pick at No. 5, but look at the
landscape. News flash: The picks at No. 3 and No. 4 are more desirable than
the one at No. 5. With Portland and Houston likely looking to deal, it means
the Pistons will be third at the trough when it comes to
lottery-pick-for-star type trades; it’s tough to come up with one star
player who could fit the bill for a trade like this right now, let alone
three. The Pistons’ best move is likely another year of quiet building, and
perhaps hearing teams out on deals for Alec Burks and Bogdan Bogdanovio댊
活塞天赋也爆了,更应该追求战绩并整合,没错!所以活塞#5 也会非常想交易的,
但#5比不上 #3 & #4,所以有三支球队都在找明星球员,但谈成一位明星都非常难了,
更何况同时间有三位明星可以谈,活塞更可能安静地继续选秀重建
‧ On a related front, I have some terrible news for fans generating fake
Mikal Bridges trades: The Nets don’t seem to have much incentive to play
ball here. Brooklyn owes unprotected picks to Houston in 2024 and 2026 and
unprotected swaps in 2025 and 2027. Thus, Brooklyn trading its good players
and tanking would do a lot more for the Rockets than the Nets. Brooklyn’s
likely best path forward is to muddle along with a Bridges-centric team,
especially since he’s signed through 2026 to one of the league’s best
contracts.
必须打醒这群生产篮网大桥交易假新闻的人,篮网欠火箭2024 & 2026无保护首轮,
2025 & 2027 首轮交换权。所以篮网根本不能坦,更可能围绕大桥且战且走,尤其
他签下了全联盟最好的合约直到2026年。
‧ Two other picks insiders expect to be in play: Dallas’ selection at No.
10 — likely paired with either or both of Dāvis Bertāns and JaVale McGee
to bring in more immediate help — and the Thunder’s pick at No. 12. In
Oklahoma City’s case, it’s still a long-term play, but the idea is that the
Thunder would use their surfeit of future picks to move up in this lottery;
they somehow have only one pick this year but are likely to have four firsts
in 2024 and still have four future firsts from other teams in 2025 and beyond.
小犊#10 可能会打包波烫或Mcgee去换即战力,雷霆#12 会寻求向上交易顺位
作者: mhkt (人生总是起起伏伏)   2023-05-20 10:15:00
Hollinger讲这话很实在
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-20 10:21:00
我拓要win now又去换#6+#11没意义吧?养一个变养两个?
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 10:33:00
有前提阿 他是说选到Scoot的话而且除了#6+#11 还有魔术其他球员
作者: silent2468 (斑比)   2023-05-20 10:51:00
现在看来假如Scoot掉下来 交易价值应该比较大假如是Miller掉下来 我们可能自选 然后把#23拿去解锁首轮 再拿之后的首轮搭球员去交易 这样好像合理点
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 10:54:00
因为研究一下 全明星控卫其实很多队伍都缺Scoot Henderson非常有可能成为全明星控球后卫
作者: jelitec (jelitec)   2023-05-20 11:14:00
那如果他去别队飞天了 我们应该被笑惨
作者: eight1223 (八宝)   2023-05-20 11:16:00
从热火可以看出一个教练的好坏能决定天花板,烂瓜你怎么交易都没用
作者: LillardTime (Tell me what time it is)   2023-05-20 11:31:00
怎么大家都想拿今年的签解锁首轮 今年是可能到#30都还有好球员的一年耶 明年挑的都不一定好
作者: jelitec (jelitec)   2023-05-20 11:33:00
认真觉得3号拿去换一个"所谓的All star"以后会后悔,加上我大枪瓜加持
作者: asd07633   2023-05-20 11:45:00
明年是超小年哦
作者: Lillard (他们的世界)   2023-05-20 11:46:00
因为给人的只要没解锁 若有大交易要谈包裹 后面几年的首轮都不能动 S级球星基本都会谈到的…
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-20 11:57:00
Scoot高机率养成全明星 但没办法阿拓被小李绑架了 只能冲一波 不然以Simon/Sharpe/#3最好的时间轴是2-3年后趁#3/Sharpe还没换约前拼一发 小李去换绿赛JB这种两年后还在巅峰期的球星 时间上比较搭得起来
作者: jelitec (jelitec)   2023-05-20 11:57:00
唉两难啊 赌失败的话感觉未来很凉SH+Sharpe 未来看起来也很不错
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-20 12:00:00
明年超小年 连Bronny都能排进首轮了先看Nurk Ant能不能谈个先发锋线或是补强内线吧
作者: mhkt (人生总是起起伏伏)   2023-05-20 12:13:00
阿拓真的要想想看其实拿到#3这个签位 就代表能有天赋可挑缺乏天赋的你们 最好还是留着用除非有打算炒短线 All in 不然自用养成总比交易好
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-20 12:15:00
支持自选我拓养成真的不差
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 12:15:00
肯定啊,联盟规则探花签我们最少可以绑8年尤其我们养后卫超强的啊,选到Scoot年度队我是觉得满有机会的XDDD今天翻译扣打用完懒得再翻https://i.imgur.com/NjSYLvv.jpg
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-20 12:21:00
已经想像到38岁的老李被交易走的scoot得50分呛瞎先不要好了
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 12:22:00
选秀大神Mike Schmitz说拓不会交易探花助理总裁都发话了,可信度我觉得挺高的
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-20 12:30:00
抬价啊,ㄧ直喊不卖的话这样想要探花的球队就会自己来求我们卖,这样价格高多了
作者: silent2468 (斑比)   2023-05-20 12:32:00
欸不是 我们还得看黄蜂脸色 才知道能不能选到Scoot啊
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-20 12:33:00
f大 你拿图片前面那段说话的是Schmitz的前同事Givony说的耶XD
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-20 12:46:00
我觉得我们会有交易但小李跟三号签都不会动
作者: loveless01   2023-05-20 12:47:00
现在多帮热火加油,打爆绿赛。换到布朗的可能性就高点
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 12:51:00
对 我看太快理解错了 我来删推文我前面说的选秀大神Mike Schimitz是错的截图是他的ESPN 前同事Givony说的拍谢 扫文章扫太快 ㄏ害我太兴奋了 Schmitz接管理职之后就没出现在公众平台发话了,再次拍谢传递错误https://i.imgur.com/IDC0jIE.jpg我很喜欢的Lively 准备来我拓试训了不过自从我板上写完他的分析,顺位就狂飙#23 应该是选不到他
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 12:52:00
我前面说的选秀大神Mike Schimitz是错的拍谢 扫文章扫太快 ㄏ害我太兴奋了 Schmitz接管理职之后就没出现在公众平台发话了,再次拍谢传递错误https://i.imgur.com/IDC0jIE.jpg我很喜欢的Lively 准备来我拓试训了不过自从我板上写完他的分析,顺位就狂飙#23 应该是选不到他
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-20 14:31:00
系列赛看下来 我觉得热火的Martin比杰伦好用
作者: isaiah2727 (Krising You)   2023-05-20 14:34:00
LaVine or DDR + 24Por首轮 -> #3 牛迷觉得可以xddd
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-20 14:42:00
我觉得不行
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-20 15:54:00
我觉得骑士的艾伦还是活塞的小魔兽可以去问问,有护框有活动力又不需要球权的长人比较适合,至于公牛那两位双枪就不用了,换他们我觉得自己养比较划算
作者: todaies (todaies)   2023-05-20 15:55:00
如果只有DDR跟Lavin我宁愿#3留下来XDSharpe应该保底Lavin了
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-20 16:05:00
火灵哥说bridges不太会被交易了https://i.imgur.com/bo4s1a2.jpg
作者: silent2468 (斑比)   2023-05-20 16:33:00
DDR不差吧 虽然季后赛好像会打折 跟小李也有私交 不过当然不会用#3换就是了篮网可以问看看DFS跟O'neale
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-21 08:26:00
#23如果公牛不愿意收下来解锁我们未来首轮签的话,#23可以考虑拿去换DFS也是个不错的选择
作者: tahikuro (无是当事人不想上到表特)   2023-05-21 11:44:00
全明星控球后卫最近10年都拿不到冠军韩德森变明星也没大损失 他也没到莫兰特佛克斯等级
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-21 11:55:00
近10年都拿不到冠军?难道勇士那四冠是假的XDD
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-21 12:16:00
我是没兴趣,但是国外网友有建议去问灰熊枪神莫兰特
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-21 13:28:00
不只Ja,再把小乔一起找来,Jail Blazers荣光再现
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-22 08:59:00
热火好扯喔到底为什么他们是老八
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 09:43:00
杰伦好像不适合梭哈 打法好像有问题 出手选择很糟 球商不高
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-22 09:44:00
我是没在看绿赛的比赛,但年度队可追吧比布朗好的对象,五根手指头数得出来
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 09:47:00
双J也是不跑位的那种,靠身体条件硬打,给枪西使用应该会更惨
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-22 09:48:00
Embiid, Ingram, Siakam, Bridge, PG除了Siakam 之外,其他都要吹密才有可能
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-22 09:52:00
教练可以交易吗我觉得湿婆可以用首轮换XD
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-22 09:56:00
我愿意出两首轮,然后新秀给SPO养落选秀养成这么猛,大概换约都至少全额中产
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 10:01:00
阿爹比Ayton 猛多了 换他好了
作者: impossible   2023-05-22 10:18:00
只要还是毕总,不管换谁来,都会瞬间退化5成功力
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-22 10:20:00
杰伦拜托不要,我完全可以想像他来了后滥投的样子
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-22 11:52:00
这系列打完杰伦会掉价 阿拓想换也只能换这种了 没多少能挑心中首选西卡,再来杰伦,最后没办法只能OG 但OG不能出#3
作者: otblue (有此战果并不意外)   2023-05-22 13:37:00
杰伦不掉价,我拓哪有机会换得到…
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-22 13:43:00
JB好歹也打到季后赛 Siakam可是季后赛都没得打这顺序怪怪的吧 更何况还是到期约
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-22 14:05:00
排序个人喜好而已 不过跟有没有进季后赛无关吧XD 另外西卡 杰伦 OG貌似都剩一年约
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-22 15:48:00
我不觉得这四队有后卫比小李好,但小李也没季后赛打,杰伦市场价值的确很高,但他不能解决我们缺长人的问题
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-22 16:33:00
但杰伦的打法,届时应该会压缩到Sharpe的空间,这点其实会让人蛮头痛的
作者: pennykidd (回到青蘋果的年代)   2023-05-22 18:49:00
西门加上#23换DDR也可以考虑 若是小修小补的话
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-22 22:09:00
西门应该不是拓荒者的吧,走错棚吗?
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 22:14:00
一句话暴露了非拓迷的身分
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-23 00:14:00
杰伦打3是效益不高吗? 大家感觉满却步的https://i.imgur.com/6sCYauP.jpg近三年位置时间都是SF > SG前两年效益SG好,但今年SF好,原因是啥?
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-24 00:42:00
作者: godmother (lucky.0826)   2023-05-24 13:07:00
我在FB看到,Brandon Miller试训成绩似乎不太好
作者: isaiah2727 (Krising You)   2023-05-24 13:24:00
选秀前会有很多烟雾弹 助理GM应该很熟悉xDDD
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-24 14:59:00
看到是说BM跟各队面谈时的应答似乎没那么好,然后外加他之前似乎是生了一个叫mononucleosis(google翻译为核单细胞增多症)的病刚恢复,体重掉了13磅之外,所以近期也没有做篮球的训练,不过我是觉得Schmitz应该之前就已经做足研究了,就看看球团整体的评估如何然后这也搞不好是Schmitz叫他的老同事Givony出来帮忙带个风向也不一定XDDD
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-24 15:13:00
之前好像哪个球员也是得这个网球的费爸也得过 当时直接从巅峰下跌的样子
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-24 15:17:00
烟雾弹可能性很高,去年也没人想到我们会选Sharpe不选吸尘器倒是有点好奇职业运动员面试都问什么问题
作者: kamasawa (青春无价请疯狂)   2023-05-24 16:51:00
应该是试训,不是面试?
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-24 16:54:00
前面推文说有面谈应该是试训的一个项目吧
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-24 20:28:00
说真的如果是现在我还真的会想3号签往下换签+人,如果要跟小李赌一把当然要即战力
作者: FAYeeeeeeee (Fay)   2023-05-24 21:14:00
小李交易来爵士啦 他之前说过如果真的被交易希望是爵士 因为母校在旁边不过爵士手上只能出后卫 对你们没帮助
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-24 21:23:00
小李应该不会离队啦,如果像暴龙那种盘子价硬吞没比较好,赌#3的即战力也是一种路线向下换不能超过溜马#7,侧翼很可能被选完火箭#4+#20,魔术#6+#11,溜马活塞乳摸没有B.Miller > J.Walker > Hendricks > Whitmore
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-24 21:54:00
我还是最想要活塞的长人+五号签,但是我觉得除非有BM 否则活塞不缺后卫应该没的谈
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-24 22:15:00
#3 + Little 换活塞 #5 + J.Duren ?哈哈 其实我觉得可以当成一个方案 满喜欢的
作者: AtDe (把后悔留在过去!)   2023-05-24 22:31:00
活塞不缺1号,没啥理由换吧
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-24 22:43:00
你看前三行啊,“活塞除非有BM"
作者: oude (...)   2023-05-25 10:09:00
魔术有富儿子根本不会想要Scoot Hendson
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-25 11:20:00
富儿子或许能再进步,但Scoot新秀合约直接配Banchero我觉得还行啊,不然国外也不会讨论乳摸,还一堆赞同
作者: oude (...)   2023-05-25 16:31:00
觉得富儿子+GaryHarris换小李再互换选秀还比较有可能
作者: BrandonRoy (Brandon Roy)   2023-05-25 18:17:00
富儿子+GaryHarris换小李?
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-25 19:00:00
太棒了,小李完全被看没有
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-25 19:19:00
......= = 我很后悔回你推文
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-25 19:37:00
支持 未来富儿子大概是巅峰curry等级小李一辈子庸庸碌碌 我拓小赚
作者: oude (...)   2023-05-25 19:50:00
如果再收Scoot 一定会出掉一些后卫 加上之前有看到说如果Wanger和Banchero养好后 不排除会找其他明星 合理安排就卖富儿子 加上GaryHarris一直想卖不过我实在不觉得魔术想要Scoot, 富儿子的缺三分, Scoot也是实在不觉得收Scoot有什么好处
作者: mhkt (人生总是起起伏伏)   2023-05-20 18:15:00
Hollinger讲这话很实在
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-20 18:21:00
我拓要win now又去换#6+#11没意义吧?养一个变养两个?
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 18:33:00
有前提阿 他是说选到Scoot的话而且除了#6+#11 还有魔术其他球员
作者: silent2468 (斑比)   2023-05-20 18:51:00
现在看来假如Scoot掉下来 交易价值应该比较大假如是Miller掉下来 我们可能自选 然后把#23拿去解锁首轮 再拿之后的首轮搭球员去交易 这样好像合理点
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 18:54:00
因为研究一下 全明星控卫其实很多队伍都缺Scoot Henderson非常有可能成为全明星控球后卫
作者: jelitec (jelitec)   2023-05-20 19:14:00
那如果他去别队飞天了 我们应该被笑惨
作者: eight1223 (八宝)   2023-05-20 19:16:00
从热火可以看出一个教练的好坏能决定天花板,烂瓜你怎么交易都没用
作者: LillardTime (Tell me what time it is)   2023-05-20 19:31:00
怎么大家都想拿今年的签解锁首轮 今年是可能到#30都还有好球员的一年耶 明年挑的都不一定好
作者: jelitec (jelitec)   2023-05-20 19:33:00
认真觉得3号拿去换一个"所谓的All star"以后会后悔,加上我大枪瓜加持
作者: asd07633   2023-05-20 19:45:00
明年是超小年哦
作者: Lillard (他们的世界)   2023-05-20 19:46:00
因为给人的只要没解锁 若有大交易要谈包裹 后面几年的首轮都不能动 S级球星基本都会谈到的…
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-20 19:57:00
Scoot高机率养成全明星 但没办法阿拓被小李绑架了 只能冲一波 不然以Simon/Sharpe/#3最好的时间轴是2-3年后趁#3/Sharpe还没换约前拼一发 小李去换绿赛JB这种两年后还在巅峰期的球星 时间上比较搭得起来
作者: jelitec (jelitec)   2023-05-20 19:57:00
唉两难啊 赌失败的话感觉未来很凉SH+Sharpe 未来看起来也很不错
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-20 20:00:00
明年超小年 连Bronny都能排进首轮了先看Nurk Ant能不能谈个先发锋线或是补强内线吧
作者: mhkt (人生总是起起伏伏)   2023-05-20 20:13:00
阿拓真的要想想看其实拿到#3这个签位 就代表能有天赋可挑缺乏天赋的你们 最好还是留着用除非有打算炒短线 All in 不然自用养成总比交易好
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-20 20:15:00
支持自选我拓养成真的不差
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 20:15:00
肯定啊,联盟规则探花签我们最少可以绑8年尤其我们养后卫超强的啊,选到Scoot年度队我是觉得满有机会的XDDD
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-20 20:21:00
已经想像到38岁的老李被交易走的scoot得50分呛瞎先不要好了
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-20 20:30:00
抬价啊,ㄧ直喊不卖的话这样想要探花的球队就会自己来求我们卖,这样价格高多了
作者: silent2468 (斑比)   2023-05-20 20:32:00
欸不是 我们还得看黄蜂脸色 才知道能不能选到Scoot啊
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-20 20:33:00
f大 你拿图片前面那段说话的是Schmitz的前同事Givony说的耶XD
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-20 20:46:00
我觉得我们会有交易但小李跟三号签都不会动
作者: loveless01   2023-05-20 20:47:00
现在多帮热火加油,打爆绿赛。换到布朗的可能性就高点
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-20 20:52:00
我前面说的选秀大神Mike Schimitz是错的拍谢 扫文章扫太快 ㄏ害我太兴奋了 Schmitz接管理职之后就没出现在公众平台发话了,再次拍谢传递错误https://i.imgur.com/IDC0jIE.jpg我很喜欢的Lively 准备来我拓试训了不过自从我板上写完他的分析,顺位就狂飙#23 应该是选不到他
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-20 22:31:00
系列赛看下来 我觉得热火的Martin比杰伦好用
作者: isaiah2727 (Krising You)   2023-05-20 22:34:00
LaVine or DDR + 24Por首轮 -> #3 牛迷觉得可以xddd
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-20 22:42:00
我觉得不行
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-20 23:54:00
我觉得骑士的艾伦还是活塞的小魔兽可以去问问,有护框有活动力又不需要球权的长人比较适合,至于公牛那两位双枪就不用了,换他们我觉得自己养比较划算
作者: todaies (todaies)   2023-05-20 23:55:00
如果只有DDR跟Lavin我宁愿#3留下来XDSharpe应该保底Lavin了
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-21 00:05:00
火灵哥说bridges不太会被交易了https://i.imgur.com/bo4s1a2.jpg
作者: silent2468 (斑比)   2023-05-21 00:33:00
DDR不差吧 虽然季后赛好像会打折 跟小李也有私交 不过当然不会用#3换就是了篮网可以问看看DFS跟O'neale
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-21 16:26:00
#23如果公牛不愿意收下来解锁我们未来首轮签的话,#23可以考虑拿去换DFS也是个不错的选择
作者: tahikuro (无是当事人不想上到表特)   2023-05-21 19:44:00
全明星控球后卫最近10年都拿不到冠军韩德森变明星也没大损失 他也没到莫兰特佛克斯等级
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-21 19:55:00
近10年都拿不到冠军?难道勇士那四冠是假的XDD
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-21 20:16:00
我是没兴趣,但是国外网友有建议去问灰熊枪神莫兰特
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-21 21:28:00
不只Ja,再把小乔一起找来,Jail Blazers荣光再现
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-22 16:59:00
热火好扯喔到底为什么他们是老八
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 17:43:00
杰伦好像不适合梭哈 打法好像有问题 出手选择很糟 球商不高
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-22 17:44:00
我是没在看绿赛的比赛,但年度队可追吧比布朗好的对象,五根手指头数得出来
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 17:47:00
双J也是不跑位的那种,靠身体条件硬打,给枪西使用应该会更惨
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-22 17:48:00
Embiid, Ingram, Siakam, Bridge, PG除了Siakam 之外,其他都要吹密才有可能
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-22 17:52:00
教练可以交易吗我觉得湿婆可以用首轮换XD
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-22 17:56:00
我愿意出两首轮,然后新秀给SPO养落选秀养成这么猛,大概换约都至少全额中产
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-22 18:01:00
阿爹比Ayton 猛多了 换他好了
作者: impossible   2023-05-22 18:18:00
只要还是毕总,不管换谁来,都会瞬间退化5成功力
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-22 18:20:00
杰伦拜托不要,我完全可以想像他来了后滥投的样子
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-22 19:52:00
这系列打完杰伦会掉价 阿拓想换也只能换这种了 没多少能挑心中首选西卡,再来杰伦,最后没办法只能OG 但OG不能出#3
作者: otblue (有此战果并不意外)   2023-05-22 21:37:00
杰伦不掉价,我拓哪有机会换得到…
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-22 21:43:00
JB好歹也打到季后赛 Siakam可是季后赛都没得打这顺序怪怪的吧 更何况还是到期约
作者: Ansel (( == 3=)(=ε ==))   2023-05-22 22:05:00
排序个人喜好而已 不过跟有没有进季后赛无关吧XD 另外西卡 杰伦 OG貌似都剩一年约
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-22 23:48:00
我不觉得这四队有后卫比小李好,但小李也没季后赛打,杰伦市场价值的确很高,但他不能解决我们缺长人的问题
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-23 00:33:00
但杰伦的打法,届时应该会压缩到Sharpe的空间,这点其实会让人蛮头痛的
作者: pennykidd (回到青蘋果的年代)   2023-05-23 02:49:00
西门加上#23换DDR也可以考虑 若是小修小补的话
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-23 06:09:00
西门应该不是拓荒者的吧,走错棚吗?
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-23 06:14:00
一句话暴露了非拓迷的身分
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-23 08:14:00
杰伦打3是效益不高吗? 大家感觉满却步的https://i.imgur.com/6sCYauP.jpg近三年位置时间都是SF > SG前两年效益SG好,但今年SF好,原因是啥?
作者: lovesinker (爱情伸卡球)   2023-05-24 08:42:00
作者: godmother (lucky.0826)   2023-05-24 21:07:00
我在FB看到,Brandon Miller试训成绩似乎不太好
作者: isaiah2727 (Krising You)   2023-05-24 21:24:00
选秀前会有很多烟雾弹 助理GM应该很熟悉xDDD
作者: CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)   2023-05-24 22:59:00
看到是说BM跟各队面谈时的应答似乎没那么好,然后外加他之前似乎是生了一个叫mononucleosis(google翻译为核单细胞增多症)的病刚恢复,体重掉了13磅之外,所以近期也没有做篮球的训练,不过我是觉得Schmitz应该之前就已经做足研究了,就看看球团整体的评估如何然后这也搞不好是Schmitz叫他的老同事Givony出来帮忙带个风向也不一定XDDD
作者: hcl00 (人品)   2023-05-24 23:13:00
之前好像哪个球员也是得这个网球的费爸也得过 当时直接从巅峰下跌的样子
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-24 23:17:00
烟雾弹可能性很高,去年也没人想到我们会选Sharpe不选吸尘器倒是有点好奇职业运动员面试都问什么问题
作者: kamasawa (青春无价请疯狂)   2023-05-25 00:51:00
应该是试训,不是面试?
作者: joystation (joker x)   2023-05-25 00:54:00
前面推文说有面谈应该是试训的一个项目吧
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-25 04:28:00
说真的如果是现在我还真的会想3号签往下换签+人,如果要跟小李赌一把当然要即战力
作者: FAYeeeeeeee (Fay)   2023-05-25 05:14:00
小李交易来爵士啦 他之前说过如果真的被交易希望是爵士 因为母校在旁边不过爵士手上只能出后卫 对你们没帮助
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-25 05:23:00
小李应该不会离队啦,如果像暴龙那种盘子价硬吞没比较好,赌#3的即战力也是一种路线向下换不能超过溜马#7,侧翼很可能被选完火箭#4+#20,魔术#6+#11,溜马活塞乳摸没有B.Miller > J.Walker > Hendricks > Whitmore
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-25 05:54:00
我还是最想要活塞的长人+五号签,但是我觉得除非有BM 否则活塞不缺后卫应该没的谈
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-25 06:15:00
#3 + Little 换活塞 #5 + J.Duren ?哈哈 其实我觉得可以当成一个方案 满喜欢的
作者: AtDe (把后悔留在过去!)   2023-05-25 06:31:00
活塞不缺1号,没啥理由换吧
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-25 06:43:00
你看前三行啊,“活塞除非有BM"
作者: oude (...)   2023-05-25 18:09:00
魔术有富儿子根本不会想要Scoot Hendson
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-25 19:20:00
富儿子或许能再进步,但Scoot新秀合约直接配Banchero我觉得还行啊,不然国外也不会讨论乳摸,还一堆赞同
作者: oude (...)   2023-05-26 00:31:00
觉得富儿子+GaryHarris换小李再互换选秀还比较有可能
作者: BrandonRoy (Brandon Roy)   2023-05-26 02:17:00
富儿子+GaryHarris换小李?
作者: youtoo (舒服就很迷人)   2023-05-26 03:00:00
太棒了,小李完全被看没有
楼主: foolishbi (傻人)   2023-05-26 03:19:00
......= = 我很后悔回你推文
作者: therealntu (therealntu)   2023-05-26 03:37:00
支持 未来富儿子大概是巅峰curry等级小李一辈子庸庸碌碌 我拓小赚
作者: oude (...)   2023-05-26 03:50:00
如果再收Scoot 一定会出掉一些后卫 加上之前有看到说如果Wanger和Banchero养好后 不排除会找其他明星 合理安排就卖富儿子 加上GaryHarris一直想卖不过我实在不觉得魔术想要Scoot, 富儿子的缺三分, Scoot也是实在不觉得收Scoot有什么好处

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