※ 引述《yochiya (漂浮)》之铭言：
: https://x.com/HeatCulture13/status/2011569364877574432
: Rich Paul回应他之前关于“用Austin Reaves交易Jaren Jackson Jr”的说法
: ，而Max Kellerman(资深评论员，富保罗的podcast搭档)则表示湖人需要交易Luka。
: Rich Paul：
: 我跟我的朋友Reggie(AR的经纪人）聊过，我跟他说:听着Reggie，你是我兄弟，我希望
: Austin知道，这件事完全不是针对Austin Reaves，因为我很爱这名球员，也很喜欢这个
: 人。第二，我其实还需要他帮我提升高尔夫球技，我不想搞砸任何和AR有关的事情。
: 这只是一个假设性的观点，并不是什么真的会发生的事。再者，我反而觉得这对AR是一
: 种肯定，因为他在一支拥有两位未来名人堂球员的球队里，而他被视为“资产”。
: 我真的不是想影响AR的任何事情！
: Max Kellerman:如果我是湖人，我会非常认真地考虑把Luka交易掉。
https://open.spotify.com/episode/5NdC2FrRObPcIJW4NrOeVx 28:14开始
补充后面的内容
Max: Unless you want to move Luka. Like, you know, we all know the reality.
Look, honestly, who would you rather do if you were the Lakers and Box Office
is not trying to get them all in?
除非你想动 Luka。大家都知道现实状况。老实说，如果你是湖人，而你并不打算把这两
个人（Luka 和 Reaves）都留着的话，你会选谁？
Rich: No. No, you're not. You're not going to do that, Max
不、不，Max。你不能那样(钓)
Max: Okay, let me say what I would do. If I were the Lakers, I would give
serious consideration to moving Luka, and I'll tell you why. Oh, my God.
好，让我说说我会怎么做。如果我是湖人，我会认真考虑交易 Luka，我告诉你为什么。
Rich: Oh my god 我的天啊
Max: If you believe there's a redundancy, Austin and Luka, Luka's a better
player than Austin Reaves. I understand that. Luka's a fantastic player,
offensively. But if you want to win a championship, I believe that your best
player needs to be someone who is willing to at least play team defense,
like Steph Curry, bad defender. Steph's a bad defender, but he is a willing
defender. It's not his fault he's not good at it. He's just built that way,
whatever. But he's a great offensive player, not a great defensive player,
but he's a willing team defender, so the Warriors can field championship
teams. If your best player isn't that, very hard to win a championship.
如果你认为 Austin 和Luka功能重叠，虽然我明白 Luka 是比 Austin 更好的球员，他的
进攻完美。但若你想赢得总冠军，我认为球队最好的球员至少得愿意参与“团队防守”。
像是Curry，他防守不好，但他愿意防，守不好不是他的错，体型就那样。但正因为他愿
意参与防守，勇士才能打造夺冠阵容。如果你最强的球员不愿意防守，那很难夺冠。
There is a world in which, if you're really trying to win a championship and
you're the Lakers, you go, I can get X Luka and Austin are redundant. I can
get X for Austin. I can get three X for Luka. You might consider moving Luka.
This is me saying it. But do you agree with that, Rich?
所以在某些情况下，如果你是湖人且真的想夺冠，你会想：Luka 和 Austin 功能重叠。
卖掉 Austin 我可以换到 X 筹码，但卖掉 Luka 我可以换到 3倍的X筹码。
你可能会考虑动Luka，这些话是我说的，但Rich，你同意吗？
Rich: Here's what I will say. I will say this, and this is complementary to
AR. If you were sitting here and you said, Rich, you take this one, I'll take
that one. I'm not saying they're equal players, but what I am saying is, howev
er you want me to start to then build the rest of my team, I'm fine either way
我会这样说，这对 AR来说是一种称赞。如果你坐在这里对我说：
“Rich，这两个人你选一个，另一个给我。”我不是说这两个人等级相等，
但我想表达的是：不管你要我用谁作为起点，来建立我剩下的阵容，我两个都可以接受。
Max: With Luka or Austin, in other words, you have to choose one because
they're redundant.
换句话说，因为他们功能重叠，你必须在 Luka 或 Austin 之间选一个。
Rich: All I'm saying is, I can build a team either way. Now, for the people
that want to talk about, that want to play fantasy basketball, I'm not
playing fantasy basketball. We're talking about hypotheticals.
This does not mean you want somebody to be traded and there's some insider
information in the locker room and this is not a LeBron thing. This is not
any of that. But if you want to be educated in this case, then I think I fit
the bill to educate you.
我只是说：不管选哪个，我都能组出一支球队。
至于那些想要聊、想要玩fantasy basketball的人——我不是在玩fantasy basketball。
我们只是在谈假设情境。这不代表你真的想把谁交易掉、也不代表更衣室里有什么内线消
息，更不是什么“LeBron 的意思”。都不是那回事。
但如果你在这种情境下想受点教育，那我觉得我很符合资格来“教育你”。
备注
原来是因为Luka不愿意防守 但皇帝就没有这个问题XD