Re: [问卦] 以色列总统:加萨没有无辜的平民

楼主: A6 (短ID真好)   2023-11-02 19:05:46
※ 引述《osalucard (堕落的月光)》之铭言:
: He also expressed frustration with the people in Gaza who allowed Hamas to
: come into power and remain in power as it continued its hate campaign against
: Israel.
: "This rhetoric about civilians not aware and not involved is absolutely not
: true. They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil
: regime that took over Gaza in a coup d'etat," Herzog said.
: 以色列总统对加萨居民失望,他们让哈玛斯上台掌权
: 没有所谓的无辜的平民,他们本来可以使邪恶政权离开加萨
: 加萨走廊的平民是不是每个都是以色列的敌人?
在皮尔斯摩根 最近的访谈中
https://youtu.be/rqjO5Z9Lt_M?si=G0iK9B0kg3vOrEtX&t=3286
内坦雅胡 2001他自述刻意破坏奥斯陆协议
和嘲笑美国舆论好操弄的新闻又提到
然后我去找了一下相关新闻
很有趣
https://electronicintifada.net/content/video-netanyahu-brags-he-deceived-us-destroy-oslo-accords/8934#:~:text=Video%3A%20Netanyahu%20brags%20he%20deceived%20US%20to%20destroy%20Oslo%20accords
https://reurl.cc/V4qMDb
Video: Netanyahu brags he deceived US to destroy Oslo accords
前略
内塔尼亚胡在片中表示,以色列必须“对巴勒斯坦人造成如此痛苦的打击,其代价将是难
以承受的…对巴勒斯坦权力机构进行广泛的攻击,让他们害怕一切都在发生”。崩溃了。

当被问及美国是否会反对时,他回答说:“美国是一个很容易被感动的东西。朝着正确的
方向前进……他们不会妨碍我们……百分之八十的美国人支持我们。这太荒谬了。”
然后他讲述了他如何与克林顿总统打交道,他称克林顿总统“极其亲巴勒斯坦”。“我并
不害怕在那里机动。我并不害怕与克林顿发生冲突。”
他说,他向白宫提出的要求根据奥斯陆协议从巴勒斯坦领土撤军的做法借鉴了他祖父的哲
学:“给予百分之二比给予百分之一百更好。”
因此,他签署了 1997 年协议,将以色列军队从希伯伦(最后一个直接占领的巴勒斯坦城
市)的大部分地区撤出,以避免放弃更多领土。
“关键在于,”他说,“不是在[被占领土上]被破坏;而是在被占领的地区。” 关键是
要在那里并付出最低的代价。”
内塔尼亚胡补充说,阻止进一步撤军的“伎俩”是重新定义奥斯陆协议下被占领领土的哪
些部分被视为“特定军事地点”。他希望白宫以书面形式批准将约旦河西岸的一大片地区
列为军事基地。
“现在,他们不想给我那封信,所以我没有给[他们]希伯伦协议。我停止了政府会议,我
说:“我不会签字。” 只有当这封信到达时…我才签署了《希伯伦协议》。为什么这很
重要?因为在那一刻我实际上停止了奥斯陆协议。”
上周,在华盛顿与欧巴马会面后,这位以色列总理接受了福克斯新闻的采访,他似乎并不
急于做出让步:“我们可以透过谈判实现和平吗?是的。2012年能实施吗?我认为这将需
要更长的时间,”他说。
人们至少必须非常强烈地怀疑内塔尼亚胡今天和当时一样坚定地致力于破坏与巴勒斯坦人
实现和平的任何机会。
In the film, Netanyahu says Israel must inflict “blows [on the Palestinians]
that are so painful the price will be too heavy to be borne … A broad attack
on the Palestinian Authority, to bring them to the point of being afraid that
everything is collapsing.”
When asked if the US will object, he responds: “America is something that
can be easily moved. Moved to the right direction … They won’t get in our
way … Eighty percent of the Americans support us. It’s absurd.”
He then recounts how he dealt with President Clinton, whom he refers to as “
extremely pro-Palestinian.” “I wasn’t afraid to maneuver there. I was not
afraid to clash with Clinton.”
His approach to White House demands to withdraw from Palestinian territory
under the Oslo accords, he says, drew on his grandfather’s philosophy: “It
would be better to give two percent than to give 100 percent.”
He therefore signed the 1997 agreement to pull the Israeli army back from
much of Hebron, the last Palestinian city under direct occupation, as a way
to avoid conceding more territory.
“The trick,” he says, “is not to be there [in the occupied territories]
and be broken; the trick is to be there and pay a minimal price.”
The “trick” that stopped further withdrawals, Netanyahu adds, was to
redefine what parts of the occupied territories counted as a “specified
military site” under the Oslo accords. He wanted the White House to approve
in writing the classification of the Jordan Valley, a large area of the West
Bank, as such a military site.
“Now, they did not want to give me that letter, so I did not give [them] the
Hebron Agreement. I stopped the government meeting, I said: ‘I’m not
signing.’ Only when the letter came … did I sign the Hebron Agreement. Why
does this matter? Because at that moment I actually stopped the Oslo accords.

Last week, after meeting Obama in Washington, the Israeli prime minister gave
an interview to Fox News in which he appeared to be in no hurry to make
concessions: “Can we have a negotiated peace? Yes. Can it be implemented by
2012? I think it’s going to take longer than that,” he said.
There must be at least a very strong suspicion that Netanyahu is as firmly
committed today as he was then to destroying any chance of peace with the
Palestinians.
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https://youtu.be/z6KLFrye9Xk?si=DVJY-QHFKc1Jk-fb
带英文翻译
https://youtu.be/tCyvzwBNxMg?si=sKeCQLvLxDglClDc
至于摩根影片中提到2019年内坦雅胡资助哈玛斯的新闻
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