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NEW YORK — Commissioner Rob Manfred said Wednesday he plans to introduce a pr
oposal to Major League Baseball’s competition committee that would bring the
automated ball-strike system to MLB in 2026.
Barring a change of heart inside Manfred’s group, ABS appears likely to arriv
e in the big leagues next year. The league office has enough votes on the 11-p
erson committee — which is also made up of player representatives and one ump
ire — to push through what it wants.
主席Rob Manfred周三表示,他计划向美国职棒大联盟的竞赛委员会提出一项建议,预计
将于2026年在大联盟引进自动好坏球判定系统(ABS)。
除非Manfred的团队改变立场,否则ABS系统很可能会在明年登上大联盟。联盟办公室在由
11人组成的委员会中拥有足够的票数——该委员会也包括球员代表与一名裁判——足以推
动他们想要的变革。
Human umpires would still make the vast majority of ball-strike calls, but tea
ms would start each game with two challenges to the umpire’s opinion. Umpires
would then rely on a technology system that the league has tested for years i
n the minor leagues and in major-league spring training this year. Teams retai
n the challenge if they get the call overturned.
“I do think that we’re going to pursue the possibility of changing that proc
ess, and we’ll see what comes out at the end of that,” Manfred said at MLB h
eadquarters. “I think that teams are really positive about ABS. You know, I d
o have that unscientific system that I use — my email traffic — and my disti
nct impression is that using ABS in spring training has made people more prone
to complain about balls and strike calls via email, to me, referencing the ne
ed for ABS. That is undoubtedly true, undoubtedly true.”
“As they have in the past, players will review any proposed rule changes and
provide their feedback and on-field experiences through the competition commit
tee,” Kevin Slowey, the Major League Baseball Players Association’s managing
director of player services, said in a statement.
人类裁判仍将负责绝大多数的好坏球判定,但每支球队在每场比赛开始时将拥有两次挑战
裁判判决的机会。裁判在受到挑战时,将依赖联盟多年来在小联盟及今年大联盟春训中测
试的科技系统。如果挑战成功、判决被推翻,该队将保留该次挑战机会。
“我确实认为我们会努力推动改变这一过程的可能性,看看最终会有什么结果,”Manfre
d在大联盟总部表示。“我认为球队对ABS系统的反应非常正面。你知道,我有个非正式的
评估方式——就是我收到的电子邮件量——而我明确的感觉是,春训期间使用ABS让人们
更倾向于透过电邮向我抱怨好坏球判定,并提到ABS的必要性。这点无庸置疑,绝对如此
。”
“就像过去一样,球员将审查任何提出的规则变更,并透过竞赛委员会提供他们的意见与
场上经验,”美国职棒大联盟球员工会(MLBPA)球员事务常务董事Kevin Slowey在一份
声明中表示。
The technology used in ABS doesn’t exactly mimic a human strike zone because
umpires on average call balls and strikes differently depending on the count:
a tighter zone on 0-2, for example, and a wider one on 3-0. Manfred, however,
didn’t indicate any outstanding concerns about the system’s operation other
than how players will react.
“My single biggest concern is working through the process and deploying it in
a way that’s acceptable to the players,” Manfred said. “There’s always go
ing to be things around the edges that we need to work through and whatever, a
nd I want them to feel like we respected the committee process and that there
was a full airing of concerns about the system, and an attempt to address thos
e concerns before we go forward.”
ABS 系统所使用的技术,并不完全模仿人类裁判的好坏球判定区,因为裁判在不同球数情
况下,平均会有不同的判决倾向:例如在0-2球时会缩小好球带,而在3-0球时则会放宽。
不过,Manfred并未表示对该系统的运作有任何重大疑虑,除了球员会如何反应之外。
“我最大的担忧,是如何在过程中妥善推动这项技术,并以球员可以接受的方式来实施,
”Manfred表示。“这其中总会有一些细节需要处理、需要调整,我希望球员能够感受到
我们尊重了委员会的讨论程序,让所有对这个系统的疑虑都有充分表达,并在推行前努力
解决这些问题。”
Players on the competition committee have almost universally been opposed to M
anfred’s on-field rule changes over time. Owner-player relations are going to
get progressively more sensitive next season, with the collective bargaining
agreement’s expiration after the 2026 season. But Manfred indicated that he w
asn’t going to move gingerly on rule changes because of the impending labor t
alks.
MLB has long held the power to implement on-field rule changes that it wants,
but in the current CBA, which went into effect in 2022, the league received th
e right to implement changes on shorter notice: 45 days after a proposal.
“We bargained for the right to make these kind of rule changes,” Manfred sai
d. “It was a really important part of the deal from our perspective. Everybod
y understood what the rules of the road are. … Unlike the prior provision, th
ere’s actually a process that is involved, that you go through, that you kind
of have a chance to vet and talk about what should happen with the players. S
o I’m less reticent about that.
“In the past, I have been a little squeamish about the year before bargaining
. I don’t feel that way right now.”
MLB is also testing a check-swing review system in the minors this season. It
’s unclear when that system will be tested by big leaguers. Manfred indicated
that system was unlikely to be tested in major-league spring training next ye
ar because of the possibility everyone would still be adjusting to ABS.
“We haven’t made a decision about the check-swing thing,” Manfred said. “W
e do try to think sequentially about what’s coming. I think we got to get ove
r the hump in terms of either doing ABS or not doing it before you’d get into
the complication of a separate kind of challenge involved in an at-bat, right
? You think about them, they’re two different systems operating at the same t
ime. We really got to think that one through.”
参与竞赛委员会的球员们,一直以来几乎普遍反对Manfred推动的场上规则变更。随着202
6年赛季结束后现行劳资协议即将到期,球团与球员之间的关系在下个赛季预计将变得更
加敏感。然而,Manfred表示,这并不会让他在规则变动上有所退缩。
虽然美国职棒一直拥有推行场上规则改变的权力,但根据2022年生效的现行劳资协议,联
盟现在可以更快速地实施变动——只需在提出建议后45天即可执行。
“我们是在谈判中争取到这项推行规则改变的权利,”Manfred表示。“对我们来说,这
是协议中非常重要的一部分。所有人都清楚这个制度的运作方式。……不像之前的条款,
现在有一套实际可行的程序,让你可以参与讨论,也能与球员就该怎么做进行充分沟通。
所以我现在对此比较不会犹豫。”
“过去,在谈判前一年我会比较谨慎。但现在我并不这么觉得。”
MLB 本赛季也正在小联盟测试一次有无挥棒(check-swing)挑战系统,目前尚不清楚何
时会让大联盟球员参与测试。Manfred指出,该系统明年春训可能不会在大联盟中测试,
因为届时大家可能还在适应 ABS 系统。
“我们尚未对有无挥棒系统做出决定,”Manfred说。“我们确实试着以有顺序的方式思
考未来的计划。我认为我们必须先跨过是否实施 ABS 的门槛,再来考虑是否在打席中加
入另一套挑战机制,对吧?因为你想想看,这是两套完全不同的系统同时运作。我们真的
需要深入思考这一点。”
作者: bmwnyy870915 (美丽的十一点到了) 2025-06-05 09:05:00
推
作者:
polanco (polanco)
2025-06-05 09:06:00应该是主席吧
作者:
lookers (实体店面 货到付款 宅配)
2025-06-05 09:06:00check-swing感觉暂时没必要 而且还要先修改棒球规则吧
作者:
shifa (西法)
2025-06-05 09:07:00“裁判在不同球数情况下,平均会有不同的判决倾向” = =这就是棒球的 #醍醐味 吗? = =
作者:
Yjizz (饶惹偶ㄚ激湿)
2025-06-05 09:09:00快点实施~~~ 终于不是拖到2027曼佛快上
作者:
l5i9hbba (Zooky)
2025-06-05 09:10:00应该就像现在小联盟的挑战制度吧
作者:
Romulus (Säubern Mode)
2025-06-05 09:11:00看起来是Manfred要冲了 但是球员主流意见还在抵抗
作者:
fman (fman)
2025-06-05 09:11:00是,就像现在判决有挑战制,未来好坏球也可以挑战,但绝大部
作者:
fman (fman)
2025-06-05 09:12:00份还是尤主审判的,这样变革大部分人应该都能接受
作者:
Romulus (Säubern Mode)
2025-06-05 09:12:00循序渐进的很重要
作者: kkoejeo 2025-06-05 09:16:00
有趣 总要有些改变
作者:
rappig (乡民~~顺啦!!)
2025-06-05 09:17:00这是很好的改动吧 不然要一直看变形好球带吗至少有挑战的机会了
作者:
shifa (西法)
2025-06-05 09:21:00过渡期而已吧 以后搞不好就再变成 三振判决强制使用ABS慢慢往全ABS判决前进
作者: JerrySloan (万年教练) 2025-06-05 09:21:00
依照球数改变好球带 承认自己是变形虫
作者:
polanco (polanco)
2025-06-05 09:23:00ABS在小联盟实验一段时间了 要有更激进的改革应该也会先在小联盟出现吧觉得ABS比全面电子好球带好一点 看韩职电子好球带也是有一些很奇妙的好球
作者: jurickson (小朱) 2025-06-05 09:30:00
挑战制度很不错啊
作者: JesterCheng (Jester) 2025-06-05 09:33:00
好球带应该是最常被讨论而且有重大影响的东西了吧
作者:
nsk (nsk)
2025-06-05 09:35:00煞车防锁死系统
作者:
keane9112 (拎北逮顽郎 拎北反支那啦)
2025-06-05 09:35:00煞车系统
作者:
l5i9hbba (Zooky)
2025-06-05 09:41:00韩职那个我觉得有时候会让比赛观赏性变差
作者: magidolanon (有点台又不会太台) 2025-06-05 09:41:00
不太懂为什么球员会抗拒 球迷想看这种人为干扰还有说法 球员不想有公正环境就很难理解
作者:
lookers (实体店面 货到付款 宅配)
2025-06-05 09:44:00很多人FRAMING会白练了
作者:
shifa (西法)
2025-06-05 09:44:00打者过去累积的经验会被推倒重新建立 利害关系者反对很正常韩职一堆那种打者傻眼的好球 就是这种状况
作者:
polanco (polanco)
2025-06-05 09:45:00作者:
shifa (西法)
2025-06-05 09:46:00过去人类主审不会给的 ABS根据棒球规则设计的范围会给好球ABS的问题大概就 1.原本棒球规则的问题 2.参数设定的问题3.设备精准度的问题
作者:
Anakin (Anakin)
2025-06-05 09:47:00其实韩职ABS比小联盟在用的大,效果不一样看到有球探说,改小联盟ABS实际上好球带会比现在缩小
如果有很多离谱的好球 该检讨的是 设备有没有问题没问题 那就是规则要改才对
作者:
Anakin (Anakin)
2025-06-05 09:49:00这可能也是大联盟改主审考核好球带大小的原因
作者:
shifa (西法)
2025-06-05 09:50:00人类主审就是会有好球带的灰色地带 还有这篇提到的不同状况下会有不同倾向的判决ABS哪怕不成熟 多半也是参数的问题 都能习惯人类随机失误然后不能接受相对稳固的标准 其实也是挺有意思
作者:
Anakin (Anakin)
2025-06-05 09:51:00韩职用的ABS宽度是大联盟好几年前测试过得比本垒板宽但是大联盟现在要用的是跟本垒板同宽
作者: ken35248 2025-06-05 09:51:00
原本想回大联盟裁判已经90%有必要吗?仔细想想100颗误判10颗,刚好都是关键的话,总教练应该会气到冲撞
作者:
shifa (西法)
2025-06-05 09:55:00要我是球员绝对反对ABS这种鬼东西 棒球场上的正义跟公平关我P4 我成绩好我干嘛改变规则 薪水搞不好差几百万镁
作者:
stu25936 (MillionCoinser)
2025-06-05 10:01:00挑战制度就可以了
作者:
AhCheng (Never Walk Alone)
2025-06-05 10:03:00挑战制度吧,要学KBO那样还要时间
作者:
tt1034 (我爪天下第一)
2025-06-05 10:08:00framing这种艺术能保留,又兼顾到公平性,我觉得很完美
作者:
yoyo8377 (你可以叫我帅哥)
2025-06-05 10:19:00很棒 打败四只老鼠
作者: mightymouse (翻堕罗流大师) 2025-06-05 10:19:00
我觉得用挑战制比直接电脑判要好,有些捕手的framing真的很好看,从此失传有点可惜
作者:
pyrogen (New Life)
2025-06-05 10:20:00主审连续判错三次的话,可以把主审三振出局吗?
作者:
VVizZ (我很穷)
2025-06-05 10:21:00棒球也在慢慢破碎化跟无趣化
作者: mightymouse (翻堕罗流大师) 2025-06-05 10:22:00
球员不想改也是有原因的,像以前Maddux这种给主审出考题的智慧型投手如果全用电子好球带价值会降低很多
作者:
VVizZ (我很穷)
2025-06-05 10:23:00要ABS还不如捕手主审退出本垒改用威浮球那种实体好球带 有打到还会吭一声清脆响亮无可狡赖
作者:
ig49999 (张思妤)
2025-06-05 10:36:00最近一个礼拜看MLB,真的觉得主审瞎眼的不少
作者:
VVizZ (我很穷)
2025-06-05 10:44:00那你更不能看篮球基本上有带眼睛的没几个
快推行吧 不然碰到玻璃心裁判 你乔头盔就被赶出去了
人判嫌不准不公平,abs判嫌少了人性无趣,要缩短比赛时间又要曾加时间去看回放,除了贱我想不到其它更好的形容