[分享] 朗希 vs Skenes、天才小史、投手大谷

楼主: polanco (polanco)   2025-01-29 11:20:09
https://atmlb.com/4gkMq4y
大联盟官网看到的文
讨论朗希是不是过去20年来最好的投手新秀
以下是节录
Is Sasaki the best? We posed that question to several executives, asking how he
stacks up against Stephen Strasburg (the No. 1 overall pick in 2009) and Paul Sk
enes (No. 2 in 2023), the top mound prospects in Draft history, and Ohtani, who
created similar buzz when he came over from Japan in 2017.
官网记者拿这个问题去问了多位球团制服组,对手是选秀史上最好的两位投手以及在2017年
掀起类似热潮的同乡前辈
Sasaki has a lot going for him, starting with an 88-91 mph splitter that feature
s shockingly low spin rates, floating toward the plate before tumbling at the en
d. It may be the best pitch in the world right now, and many evaluators say they
've never seen a better splitter. He also sat at 96-98 mph with his fastball las
t year, has touched 102.5 mph in the past and can flash a plus slider at 83-85 m
ph with two-plane depth.
朗希的武器库:快速球、滑球、也许是世界上最好的指叉球
Sasaki has been under the scouting microscope for years, so some imperfections h
ave come to light. His command of his fastball and his consistency with his slid
er could use some work, and some scouts question the shape of his heater. He mis
sed time the past couple of years with a torn left oblique (2023) and shoulder s
oreness (2024), and his velocity and life on his pitches regressed a bit last se
ason.
缺陷:速球的控制力跟滑球的稳定性还有进步空间、有些球探质疑他的速球尾劲、各种伤痛
问题
vs Skenes
Almost all of the club officials we consulted prefer Skenes to Sasaki at the sam
e stage of their careers. Skenes didn't have a single pitch that could match Sas
aki's splitter, but he had a better fastball with similar velocity, a significan
tly better slider, better command and a stronger build (6-foot-6, 235 pounds vs.
6-foot-2, 187 pounds). After signing for a then-record $9.2 million, Skenes add
ed a 93-95 mph splinker (hybrid sinker/splitter) that played as the third-best p
itch in the Majors during his rookie season last year.
几乎所有制服组都觉得Skenes在同个阶段比较优秀
Skenes没有一个球种有朗希指叉球的评价,但他的快速球、滑球、控制力以及身材都比较好
,去年还多学了指叉伸卡球
vs 投手大谷
Ohtani vs. Sasaki is a closer call, not giving the three-time MVP any extra cons
ideration for his two-way ability. Ohtani's proponents will point to his superio
r fastball finish, slider and health while noting that he had a well-above-avera
ge splitter, even if it wasn't as devastating as Sasaki's. Those who favor Sasak
i do so because of his advantages with his splitter, strike-throwing and project
ability.
不看大谷的二刀能力,两人评价较为接近
大谷的支持者觉得他的速球、滑球以及健康程度较好,指叉球没那么恐怖但也有well-above
-average的水准
偏好朗希的则认为他的指叉球、丢好球能力以及成长空间有优势
vs Strasburg
The evaluators were similarly divided on Sasaki vs. Strasburg. Sasaki gets point
s for his otherworldly splitter and potentially higher ceiling. Strasburg's over
all stuff was better relative to his era, his power curveball was at least a gra
de better than Sasaki's slider and he was stronger.
一样有类似的意见分歧
朗希有着世界级指叉球跟较高的潜力天花板
小史则是整体的stuff超越了那个时代的其他人、曲球比朗希的滑球评分更高,而且更强壮
The consensus among the executives we surveyed was that Ohtani, Skenes and Stras
burg had higher floors because they had more well-rounded repertoires and physic
ality but that Sasaki might have more upside than any of them. He joins a Dodger
s organization renowned for helping players develop to their fullest potential,
albeit one that has been plagued by a lot of pitching injuries as well.
共识:大谷、Skenes跟Strasburg的地板比较高,朗希的天花板则高了一点。而且他加入了
善于开发球员潜力,但也受到大量投手伤兵问题困扰的的道奇队
大概是这样
作者: alex8725 (近鉄バファローズ魂不灭)   2025-01-29 11:27:00
确实 朗希的演戏上限高很多可望竞争奥斯卡
作者: zxc906383 (无无)   2025-01-29 11:29:00
这样是史上最强投手新秀了吧天花板更高欸
作者: Yjizz (饶惹偶ㄚ激湿)   2025-01-29 11:31:00
现役,此时此刻Skenes强稳
作者: dd1115dd1115 (jeff lou)   2025-01-29 11:32:00
演的超难看最好被打爆
作者: WasJohnWall (大白鲨天道)   2025-01-29 11:37:00
那这样也是说Skenes最好了吧
作者: s2022s   2025-01-29 11:37:00
记得大谷现在直球蛮肉包的 是开完TJ才变这样吗
作者: WasJohnWall (大白鲨天道)   2025-01-29 11:38:00
大谷第一年四缝不太行,后来才越来越强的,不然他也是靠投球空降百大第一的
作者: AisinGioro (爱新觉罗。溥聪)   2025-01-29 11:47:00
大谷有改练二缝文章代码(AID): #1Z3qxcTS (MLB)
作者: Catalyst (催化剂)   2025-01-29 11:53:00
朗希比这两位状元强我觉得吹太高了
作者: leoqqqoel (leoqqqoel)   2025-01-29 12:02:00
我觉得地瓜更强 球速更快 但新秀时普
作者: ct13579 (张纳兰)   2025-01-29 12:03:00
跟小史同期的达比修跟老查呢
作者: carlchang092 (carl)   2025-01-29 12:16:00
地瓜巅峰直球滑球都是联盟最顶级的而且控球也超好,投手能在Savant上面进阶几乎都PR90以上也没几个了
作者: ke265379ke (山王泽北)   2025-01-29 12:25:00
Skenes 控球真的蛮屌的 可以投出压在线上和角落的火球
作者: gekkou (X 1106)   2025-01-29 12:43:00
Skenes现在就已经强爆了,朗希要投出那成绩没那么容易吧
作者: b99202071 (b99202071)   2025-01-29 13:00:00
多二逢而已 隔年还自己改烂了Skenes的Splinker现在不会输朗希指叉
作者: carlchang092 (carl)   2025-01-29 13:04:00
但Skenes去年Run Value最高的是Sinker RV/100有3.0而且使用率很高有28.4%
作者: WasJohnWall (大白鲨天道)   2025-01-29 13:06:00
Skenes记得那颗一开始是记在变速类,后来才改回速球的
作者: kenkenken31 (呆呆傻蛋)   2025-01-29 13:22:00
想起以前小史正威武,曲球和变速真的舒服
作者: showdoggy (土司包)   2025-01-29 14:06:00
就是看中他天花板 不过也要完成的了
作者: b99202071 (b99202071)   2025-01-29 14:41:00
一开始记录在指叉 后来改放Sinker多二缝但隔年改烂我是说大谷
作者: n61208 (Kershaw)   2025-01-29 17:29:00
文章在讲投手新秀、然后有人在谈地瓜巅峰
作者: YesHi   2025-01-29 18:00:00
先健康再讨论啦
作者: poet1112 (湿人不是诗人)   2025-01-29 18:09:00
继续吹 他者玻璃手臂能健康再说
作者: s2022s   2025-01-29 18:15:00
对啊完全体就不用讨论了
作者: oldchang1205 (...)   2025-01-29 18:48:00
朗希控球查得远
作者: ia220629 (ping)   2025-01-29 19:36:00
开季见真章朗希控球升级的话就鬼了
作者: AHEAD099 (AHEAD)   2025-01-30 05:43:00
论第一年投出的成绩 Skenes辗压其他人

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